Wotv whale account banned due to original owners refund to Gumi

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Syllos

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Hello WotV consumers/fellow WotV gamers,

I'm here to tell you about a transaction which took place in August and is now banned two months later, but first a little background about myself.

I once had my own WotV account, was spending quite a bit, but rage quit/ unlinked the account from all sns sources. Immediately regretting my poor decision I tried to recover the account via Gumi support. After months of waiting, I gave up.

So, I've been buying and selling on here since late July 2020 strictly WotV accounts. I've purchased 8 accounts and sold 5 of them. 4 fresh starters, 2 Mid-game and one endgame.

I've sold/ given away the starters and Mid-game accounts since. I've also been giving away JP accounts with 130k vis for free.

Which brings me to the endgame account I've purchased. I posted this ad:

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buying-mlb-whisper.1661053/

I received two messages days later.

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They were both selling the same account. The second individual said he was selling it for his friend. This account was rr11 and had 9 mlb units for $150.(which was huge at the time in the market.)

Link to the deal: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/glo...ready-to-go-price-drop-150-must-sell.1679036/

We brought the deal to discord and was asked to make two payments of $75 one for him and another for his friend via PayPal.

After the purchase I was able to get into the account. Changed the primary email and password associated with the FB account to secure the account as it's new owner.

Things went fine for awhile. Until September 25th, I received an email via the gmail I made regarding the FB account stating My account was just used to log into a new game called "Mythgard."

I don't have a screenshot of the email since I was prepping the account for sale.

At that time realized I forgot to sign the FB account out of all devices when changing ownership.

After deleting the app data of this new game and signing out all other devices; I thought it was safe. Until this past Saturday when I tried to log the WotV account into a new device. I was greeted with this message: (see attached) *

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I confronted the seller via Epicnpc messages. No response.(he was sleeping) I re-requested a friend add on discord. A few hours later we began discussing the ban, and immediately I was asked if I used a bot and hacks to get the account banned myself.

So I went to Gumi support and they informed me it was due to multiple refunds.

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Now with proof that the account was refunded and I know I didn't do it, so who did it? The seller's friend.

His motive is unclear, as the seller claims his friend does not have money issues. However my theory is he began playing this Mythgard game(which he signed up for with my FB account) and got pissed off that he lost his progress after I deleted the app data.

It's his fault for not checking which FB he was logging into it with.

Anyway, if you read this far. Thank you. I'd just like to raise awareness of such an unusual circumstance and transaction which has left me without an account that I really enjoyed and made quite a bit of progress in.

The money is not important to me, I seek justice in any form.
 
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-negative-feedback.1925450/#post-7594866
Syllos has been incredibly disrespectful. From the outset I told him this account was not mine and that I was selling it from someone else. Basically I was acting as a middle man with this transaction.

That being said I still tried to help him recover the account and asked necro if he had refunded which he denied.

Syllos began to ask on a "hacking" discord which he purchases illegal bots from to "hack" me. You can see his response when a friend sent me an ss of what he said.

I confronted syllos about using bots yet he said this is not why he was banned. As a middle man here with no access to the account or records from either person how in the world can I determine what actually happened?

Syllos had been respectful in the past and I had tried to help out. But his behavior here is way out of line. I truly hope epicnpc will take action against him for his slander and asking people to be "hacked" as well his omission to botting which is against tos.
 

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Botting is against the tos, however it is not the reason for this ban.

The words I used were out of frustration, for that I apologize. That still leaves me without an account which I've purchased from you. From YOUR advertisement, not from Jonathan012.

This transaction was not a legal trade guardian transaction. I should've seen this as a huge red flag when you asked that payment be sent to both of you separately through PayPal.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-negative-feedback.1925450/#post-7594866
At the end of the day I have a clear conscience. I this account was purchased months ago. I treated you with respect even after the purchase when you had issues and tried to resolve them for you. There was simply nothing more I can do.

I was straight up and honest with you the entire time that this was not my account. I am not really sure why you are retaliating against me.

On top of that. You admitted to me to breaking the tos of the game. And while you say you verified thats not why you were banned how am I to prove that. Or that the account was banned over a refund.

I never slandered you, and continued to try to help you until the end. I've never had a negative interaction on this forum.

But hey, it is what it is. Good luck with everything.
 
You're right, it should be Jonathan012 targeted in this dispute, but it was your ad.

Your friend did this to you. Some friend you got there, dishonesty, Lies, and now he's made you look bad when all you were trying to do was help him out. @Jonathan012
 
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@Jonathan012

Done. Thank you.

Posting pics of me reaching out to him regarding this issue, as you can see he has been viewing the thread.

The last is a ss of the original email that I was given, I can provide the email and it's login details in private for confirmation of it being banned, and that this is in fact the account in question.
 

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