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[tuvo]

This makes EpicUpgrade now useless. It was a fun ride everyone, unless this is your job ain't no way i'm giving away my personal information just to sell once here and probably never again.

Agree, I'm also leaving

Everyone just wants ID cards, then people are surprised when they see their ID card for sale on dark web

 

[XP Mart]

Hello, EpicNPC. My government digital ID is not accepted. I am still yet to received the physical here in the Philippines. This is the ID that I used to verify my account here last year but now it's not working. This is the only valid ID I have and a student ID. Is there any alternative documents to provide my identity? I have a bank statement...

 

[summonerLR]

Since when is the new verification available?
I verified my account in March of this year

 

[EpicNPC]

Veriff checks the date of birth in the document and here?

We assume many members entered random information for the DOB. When you verify, it will overwrite the DOB on your EpicNPC account based on the ID.

ok , under seller verification ,status is Approved , so i don't need take any further action ,right ?

Yes, you're done

 

[Wawan Sulistiono]

How to check if seller already verified with new system?

 

[Goodman]

We are asked to agree providing documents to the third party, to allow collection/use of all provided information.
Basically, they are selling/using information for a profit. During 3 years, some users verified 3 times already here, first if they registered in before 2022, second one was in 2022, when you asked to reverify for new security reasons and third one is now.
I don't think this will stop scammers, so what's gonna be next? If Veriff fails, we have to reverify again with another platform?



I don't see the point, how can you trust them with so many negatives.

 

[Sasoriyo]

Quick question, what about those who already have threads? They can still bump them, or edit them into something else without the need to create it? I've asked this question a few times, but got no reply unfortunately

 

[Corby]

SOunds good

 

[EpicNPC]

Since when is the new verification available?
I verified my account in March of this year

As of 4 days ago. Aug 27th.

Hello, EpicNPC. My government digital ID is not accepted. I am still yet to received the physical here in the Philippines. This is the ID that I used to verify my account here last year but now it's not working. This is the only valid ID I have and a student ID. Is there any alternative documents to provide my identity? I have a bank statement...

I'm sorry, only physical cards can be used. Student IDs and bank statements are not acceptable. ID card, passport, residential permit or drivers license only.

How to check if seller already verified with new system?

https://www.epicnpc.com/account/account-details

Quick question, what about those who already have threads? They can still bump them, or edit them into something else without the need to create it? I've asked this question a few times, but got no reply unfortunately

Eventually all threads from non-verified members will be removed, but this will not happen at the 30 day mark. Most likely we'll do it in phases.

 

[DEJAN]

Unpopular opinion but i like this change, at least we won't see brand new accounts creating a thread where they're asking for money loans or currency exchange e.g. paypal->crypto or vice versa and then surprise surprise 1 week later they're banned for scamming. I mean this is just 1 instance but i'm sure this issue exists in other sections for currencies and accounts.

Only red flag from my pov is the veriff trustpilot (1.9 rated) which is kinda questionable but at the same time i doubt epicnpc would jeopardize their reputation to some sketchy verification website, so im sure we're good.

 

[Sasoriyo]

I can see a lot of popular companies like Wise and Bolt use this system, so I doubt it is some shithole that people think it is

 

[Lord-X-Zero]

*For members that do not re-verify by Sept 26th, Verification will be removed from your account and you will no longer be able to create threads.*
What about if they already have a Topic ? can be Edited? or its also gone ?

Ohh nvm Saw it now

 

[Structura]

I'm sorry, only physical cards can be used. Student IDs and bank statements are not acceptable. ID card, passport, residential permit or drivers license only.

I will pass any verification without any problems, you just add recognition of documents from all countries of the world, and not some selected ones.

 

[Eiiyu]

I just hope this verification is only for 2021-2024 accounts because I always see scammers with accounts made in 2021-2024

 

[PandaGod]

ask for a new type of ID/Facial Verification? Why again and on a different platform? It's okay that I want to protect the forum from scammers, but with this I think it would be the third time I upload my personal data and it seems too much to do it once again on a different platform, why is it required instead of remaining an option? If even on onlyfns verified accounts are created with false documents, even fake people, the KYC will not make the scammers stop stealing from people, I think that the majority of people here are adults and understand that they should verify several things before buying or selling or make a payment. so making this mandatory seems very forced

 

[Eiiyu]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I just hope this verification is only for 2021-2024 accounts because I always see scammers with accounts made in 2021-2024

and banned transactions via Discord
a lot scam on discord

 

[suicid]

This is the statement from that link I posted about from Veriff regarding different languages.

so, like most of asia middle east and ex-ussr countries are now can't verify? Because drivers id\passports in them are in their native language only, meaning verify can't process them.
And this is not small part of this forum, so you still think that this are great idea (new policy and changes), where you cut out big part of traders, and then some other part go away as well, because sending their id to company with **** trust rating are something they not gonna do.

 

[suicid]

Then it looks like false advertising and you were scammed.

looks like they scam even from begining.

 

[A.GG]

I'm curious as to what was the reason behind using Veriff as the processor?
They have a 1.9 rating on trustpilot: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/veriff.com
They were also involved in a lawsuit for collecting biometric data without consent where they settled: https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...riff-facial-scans-4m-class-action-settlement/

Just wondering, because if they could collect data without consent, they could certainly share/sell it without consent.

Nice catch. I will wait until the deadline and see what EpicNPC's final decision will be. Maybe they will cancel it without sharing my ID with those people. or maybe the admin release a paid upgrade for those who don't want to share their data with this people company!!!

 

[Angel]

For all these who complains about Veriff Trust Pilot rating, Paypal have 1.3, which is less and you are still using it, so what is difference of trusting Paypal, and not Veriff?

 

[suicid]

For all these who complains about Veriff Trust Pilot rating, Paypal have 1.3, which is less and you are still using it, so what is difference of trusting Paypal, and not Veriff?

because pp are required in 99% cases when you need to get or send money, and Veriff are not really required by anything?

 

[Gorelord]

For all these who complains about Veriff Trust Pilot rating, Paypal have 1.3, which is less and you are still using it, so what is difference of trusting Paypal, and not Veriff?

Paypal no need selfie or ID for verification, only bank transfer..why it cant be used same here?

 

[PandaGod]

For all these who complains about Veriff Trust Pilot rating, Paypal have 1.3, which is less and you are still using it, so what is difference of trusting Paypal, and not Veriff?

Paypal is used to made/recived payments? Lol

 

[John Ashyer]

I have a thought but I hope it can be considered, how about requiring the presence of a midman for every transaction for those who have not kyc instead of limiting every epicnpc account holder to have to kyc just to make a post, I am well aware of the actions of EpicNpc trying to help buyers or sellers since Tradeguardian Free appeared, and I realize that Tradeguardian Free is often avoided and there are even some I found who do not know about this

 

[Raiden Fafnir]

This decision seems to be extremely drastic and to be honest, it feels like not much thought went into.

1- Why are members that are already verified which is done by a human being that has human eyes and human brain need to verify again for a company that has 1.9 stars on trust pilot, just lost a 4 million dollar class action lawsuit that shows that they do not care about privacy at all.

2- The verification does not even work for a lot of the countries, mine for example. It just simply does not understand what my national ID for some reason even though they say that they support Egyptian national ID and the language (just like how they say that they care about privacy, they obvs don't and will it sell lol). I contact EpicNpc customer support and what do they tell me? Womp womp, just wait for them to support it and for it work again . What kind of response is that? (obvs it is paraphrased). This was the first answer, just contacted again, hopefully they give some kind of reasonable solution

3- Making the verification mandatory will make TG near useless, not completely obviously but the income from it will be reduced by a lot because TG is used a lot of the times with accounts that don't have a lot of good rep but with this decision most accounts that remain (which is not a lot) will most likely be higher rep accounts.

4- I just hate it when there are rules or laws that are put in place to protect the majority that is not particularly bright while harming most of your sellers. If someone is new with no badges, no to little rep and is selling an account for 50% off then it is probably is a scam. Have they never heard of the saying "If it's too good to be true then it probably is"?

5- I used to sell on a lot of other websites, I stopped selling on all of them a long time ago because EpicNpc was a lot more free, I even felt inclined to pay for Epic Member upgrade because I felt that supporting the website even a little bit is worth it, it truly sucks seeing this change happening now.

 

[starglze]

Banned - Previously banned: Wilona

I have a thought but I hope it can be considered, how about requiring the presence of a midman for every transaction for those who have not kyc instead of limiting every epicnpc account holder to have to kyc just to make a post, I am well aware of the actions of EpicNpc trying to help buyers or sellers since Tradeguardian Free appeared, and I realize that Tradeguardian Free is often avoided and there are even some I found who do not know about this

Won't work because both users can't or don't want to pay the fee most of the time, eventually leading to disagreements.

 

[PandaGod]

Who is going to want to pay $10+ for each time they purchase a service?

I have a thought but I hope it can be considered, how about requiring the presence of a midman for every transaction for those who have not kyc instead of limiting every epicnpc account holder to have to kyc just to make a post, I am well aware of the actions of EpicNpc trying to help buyers or sellers since Tradeguardian Free appeared, and I realize that Tradeguardian Free is often avoided and there are even some I found who do not know about this

 

[raidsen1]

I misunderstood

 

[suicid]

Who is going to want to pay $10+ for each time they purchase a service?

If TG become mandatory, they need to lower price for it, so they will make it back with quantity

 

[PandaGod]

If TG become mandatory, they need to lower price for it, so they will make it back with quantity

bro it doesn't make sense to make it mandatory to use TG lmao I think we are not children

 

[Kira Yagami]

I personally dont have an issue with this since i already verified my acc before, but i think atleast the users with 2-3 years w/ 3 digit feedback should be spared if they dont really want to share their personal info. Feels like their hard earned reputation over the years is nothing.

If im a buyer i will def choose a non verified seller with 2-3 years old acc and has tons of feedback rather than a new acc with a verified ID.

 

[Tony and Friends]

Paypal no need selfie or ID for verification, only bank transfer..why it cant be used same here?

PayPal NEED verification with documents, and proof of address too

 

[John Ashyer]

Won't work because both users can't or don't want to pay the fee most of the time, eventually leading to disagreements.

Now that I think about it, it's useless if they do transactions outside of epic

 

[Bubbles99]

Banned - Previously Banned - KidNappeR

My account show approved its mean i dont need to re-verification right?

 

[Angel]

PayPal NEED verification with documents, and proof of address too

yeah they requested from me both, ID and bank details

 

[wowwallet]

hi cant verify by using my identy card,whats wrong?

 

[valkyriene]

Tbh the price-cut for your middleman service is way too expensive and I personally often did outside the site with my own local trusted middlem(e)n,
this site is only for promotion anyway, been fun thanks I'm taking my leave, I guess you are going to lose tons of Indonesian here,
not too late to reconsider this decision, good luck

 

[giuliana]

Although I like the idea that epicnpc is more secure, this will not really prevent scams from disappearing because in terms of security it has been shown that if you pay the trade guardian fee which is quite expensive and you simply do things to have a secure transaction They are unusable for daily use, people will simply be banned from the website and the victim, as has happened in all the years, will only lose their money, although it is understood that they should not reimburse the victim's money. At a minimum, said information should be filtered or have some type of law that the person has their money back from a scammer, I already did my verification process but simply with these decisions the site will continue to decline



For this site to be safe, it will require more than just asking for an ID and second verification, as I said in ep'icnpc, it has shown the scammers that here they have 0 risk of being caught and paying for what they did.

 

[AkBy]

Tbh the price-cut for your middleman service is way too expensive and I personally often did outside the site with my own local trusted middlem(e)n,
this site is only for promotion anyway, been fun thanks I'm taking my leave, I guess you are going to lose tons of Indonesian here,
not too late to reconsider this decision, good luck

Luckily trade guardian is not mandatory and everyone has the choice to either use it or not. You can pay a fee and be assured that the account will safely come to your possession in that moment or you can risk going first and not receive what you paid for afterwards.

I personally would happily use trade guardian whenever I can.

 

[JayBorja]

Ok I'm verified now but this is against my will unfortunately happen.. please use your method on new seller only.. not all other members who kindly effort for more than a lot of year to gain respectable effort to maintain their reputation .. as 2 years I think its enough for you but others seems hard please revise this method asap... Scam everywhere thats what word is all about... To maintain activeness of this site just do cap needed..

I love this site dont want to ruin it.. thats why I applied but not all is me.. so do right thing to do..

 

[A.GG]

Tbh the price-cut for your middleman service is way too expensive

You have to use other sources of sales, and then you will see that EpicNPC fees are lower than normal.

One of the marketplaces we use takes ~45%!

 

[Futen]

I personally dont have an issue with this since i already verified my acc before, but i think atleast the users with 2-3 years w/ 3 digit feedback should be spared if they dont really want to share their personal info. Feels like their hard earned reputation over the years is nothing.

If im a buyer i will def choose a non verified seller with 2-3 years old acc and has tons of feedback rather than a new acc with a verified ID.

Have you ever made a transaction with an unverified seller?

 

[HighShop]

Damn EpicNPC is really forcing me to give my data away to a company that I never heard of and have a **** reputation, this is just crazy. -.-

I understand why epicnpc is doing that for unverified and new members, this will probably avoid scammers to keep creating new accounts to scamm people but...
Why the verified members need to do that? The scammers are all unverified members, epicnpc do not have access to that data?
How often the current verified members get banned? None of the verified members that I have in my chat are banned.
Epicnpc verification system was working well, the only problem is that verification was not mandatory...

I dont see a reason to force ur loyal buyers/sellers that verified their accounts willingly, to this annoying untrustable process...

 

[Moogle Market]

Epic NPC is now requiring us to verify our identities through a third-party service called Veriff. However, Veriff has a poor reputation, with a rating of just 1.9 out of 5 stars and serious concerns regarding its privacy practices. I've been a loyal user of Epic NPC for years, with a 100% positive feedback rating, and I pay annually for my status. I also hold the trust badge, which reflects my reliability on the platform.

If I'm required to share my personal information with a low-security third-party site like Veriff, I will unfortunately have to leave Epic NPC and seek other platforms to conduct my sales. I sincerely hope Epic NPC reconsiders this decision.

 

[shucia]

I'd suggest to delete the option to not use TG middleman when posting a thread and mark users who refuse middleman as TWC or straight up ban them unless both users can't handle the MM fee. Also investigate non-TG disputes, at least in the site when actual scams happened, and make changes to the ID verification so only new members who are the majority of bypassers handle them. Instead of making a rushed decision to require everyone to verify, even just to post a buying thread when the majority were against it months ago.

You are crazy for even suggesting that, did you realized how many trader selling starter accounts with a prize under 1$? and you want people to use MM for such a low price transaction is just a hassle and stupid.

 

[alvinZ]

probably this rule should exclude members with trusted badge to re-verify, and maybe old members with lots of feedbacks.
personally i don't mind about re-verifying, but i'm not sure about giving away my personal data to data collecting company that has bad reputation.

 

[summonerLR]

Probablemente esta regla debería excluir a los miembros con insignia de confianza para volver a verificar, y tal vez a los miembros antiguos con muchos comentarios.
Personalmente, no me importa volver a verificar, pero no estoy seguro de entregar mis datos personales a una empresa de recopilación de datos que tiene mala reputación.

+1000000000000000

 

[suicid]

People with 10+ years old registration date and 100% positive feedback, who already was verified manually by administration
People who have 3-5+ old registration date and 50-100 deals that 100% positive feedback and also verified manually
must be allowed to keep their current verification status.
Esp. in case when their ID not working with that new service.

 

[Quadroware]

Dude, I've been here for 6 years. Not even 1 negative comment! I pay a yearly premium membership fee and buy credits at regular intervals. I have verified my identity and the card I use has the same name!

Why do I have to verify my identity again? For old members this is quite meaningless! If you want to prevent scammers in a significant percentage, switch to the Funpay system! This is ridiculous! In 3rd world countries, you can give someone 30-40 dollars and use all their credentials. For example, a homeless! Ask for verification with a payment method for members who verify their identity instead! For example a credit card. So you can match the information on the ID and payment method!

 

[Kira Yagami]

Have you ever made a transaction with an unverified seller?

yes, and for years, before i even learn about this site, compared to my previous market, scams here are pretty tame. also, i dont see the point of having verified ID if epicnpc wont release the info of the scammer or report it to authorities, they can also just fake it or make a new acc with their friends/relatives or pay some random ass mfker who doesnt give a fk for a few . just a false sense of security. same as cooking wearing gloves.

now this is just based on my experience, could just be my luck too, but i never got scammed with sellers with random ass anime pictures and not even a hint of who they are in real life, as long as they have a good reputation and can provide proof of transactions then its good to go. But whenever i bought one its always cheap 10-30$ starter acc so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯