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[starglze]

Banned - Previously banned: Wilona

Okay, let's say I want to verify with Veriff, I C A N ' T. I simply cannot, they do not recognize my ID (even though on their website they say they do), and when I made a ticket for EpicNpc support, guess what they told me? Welp, too bad. They told me and I quote
"I'm sorry, but at this time only Latin/English IDs are being accepted. If you're ID is in a different language, you will have to use another type.

For most countries we accept the following types of ID. However depending on your country, not all options are available.

• Drivers License
• Passport
• Residential Permit
• ID Card

"
I cannot do any of this at all. Residential permit is not a thing here in Egypt and even if it is, it will be in Arabic (Which again, they say that they support on their website but they don't)
0 Shot I can get a passport as it is genuine hell to get it here
Drivers License is also in Arabic and I don't have one because I don't drive
Only thing I have is my ID card which SHOULD BE more than enough but nooooooo

What annoys me the most is that I already got verified by a human (aka EpicNpc staff), why do I need to reverify with an AI? I legit do not get this part of the decision. It makes 0 sense, actually 0 logic behind it.
I need an answer to these two problems the most.

This pretty much shows how rushed and careless of an update this is. They plan to delete all non-verified members's threads after a month, while not everyone who's willing to verify their ID is language supported on a 1.9 rating app. Absolutely fair and considerate, isn't it? Definitely more of an anti-seller (and buyers who use threads) than an anti-scammer.

 

[deu8n]

What annoys me the most is that I already got verified by a human (aka EpicNpc staff), why do I need to reverify with an AI? I legit do not get this part of the decision. It makes 0 sense, actually 0 logic behind it.
I need an answer to these two problems the most.

Here's an answer:

They don't care about all the "safety" that they've been blabing about, what they care about is getting all of us identified through KYC. Otherwise why not let the sellers that have hundreds of feedbacks, 10+ years of experience and have verified 3 fxkin times already?!

Once they have us all identified they can use that info to get loans/shady deals and other businesses venture's from the big companies that WILL love getting their hands on it!

I don't care enough to find the original admin response (it was like page 2 on this thread), but I can quote him as saying that this update was pushed for the same exact reason! Big companies like skrill/wise and whatever else they're in talks with won't work with them unless they KYC all their customers!!!

"Safety" that they're describing is all but play pretend, they have different goals for what they needed KYC...

 

[Angel]

Once they have us all identified they can use that info to get loans/shady deals and other businesses venture's from the big companies that WILL love getting their hands on it!

Probably yes, it's same reason why Elon bought Twitter, to collect people ID, and get loans. It's what Wise and Crypto companies doing for years. It must be something huge behind all this, probably even aliens involved


I mean, come on guys, I understand that you do not want to it, but let's be serious okay?

 

[kokofelix28]

Probably yes, it's same reason why Elon bought Twitter, to collect people ID, and get loans. It's what Wise and Crypto companies doing for years. It must be something huge behind all this, probably even aliens involved


I mean, come on guys, I understand that you do not want to it, but let's be serious okay?

Bro please reply my post at this thread. I got problem doing re-verif

 

[RedSnowman]

Once they have us all identified they can use that info to get loans/shady deals and other businesses venture's from the big companies that WILL love getting their hands on it!

This is bs. All your personal data has already been leaked and sold by the government, ISP, mobile operator, bank... and nothing happened.

 

[Angel]

Bro please reply my post at this thread. I got problem doing re-verif

I am not sure what issue do you have, have you tried with mobile phone?

 

[kokofelix28]

I am not sure what issue do you have, have you tried with mobile phone?

It said i need to search for Address Bar bro. Where can i find it bro?

 

[Angel]

In your phone settings, like on the image shows

 

[kokofelix28]

In your phone settings, like on the image shows

But on the microphone there is no option for EpicNPC bro

 

[Angel]

But on the microphone there is no option for EpicNPC bro

I am not sure why asking you to enable microphone, have you tried only with camera enabled?

 

[kokofelix28]

I am not sure why asking you to enable microphone, have you tried only with camera enabled?

Yes bro and it still show the picture above

 

[Angel]

Yes bro and it still show the picture above

Maybe to try another mobile device?

 

[kokofelix28]

Maybe to try another mobile device?

Alright bro. I will try it first

 

[DEJAN]

Probably yes, it's same reason why Elon bought Twitter, to collect people ID, and get loans. It's what Wise and Crypto companies doing for years. It must be something huge behind all this, probably even aliens involved


I mean, come on guys, I understand that you do not want to it, but let's be serious okay?

Bros are going full conspiracy theory mode ngl it's kinda funny to read

 

[Smoag]

Bros are going full conspiracy theory mode ngl it's kinda funny to read

Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

My (almost proven) theory is that the administration was replaced by the FBI, because why else would you shoot yourself in the your foot?

 

[Tony and Friends]

Okay, let's say I want to verify with Veriff, I C A N ' T. I simply cannot, they do not recognize my ID (even though on their website they say they do), and when I made a ticket for EpicNpc support, guess what they told me? Welp, too bad. They told me and I quote
"I'm sorry, but at this time only Latin/English IDs are being accepted. If you're ID is in a different language, you will have to use another type.

For most countries we accept the following types of ID. However depending on your country, not all options are available.

• Drivers License
• Passport
• Residential Permit
• ID Card

"
I cannot do any of this at all. Residential permit is not a thing here in Egypt and even if it is, it will be in Arabic (Which again, they say that they support on their website but they don't)
0 Shot I can get a passport as it is genuine hell to get it here
Drivers License is also in Arabic and I don't have one because I don't drive
Only thing I have is my ID card which SHOULD BE more than enough but nooooooo

What annoys me the most is that I already got verified by a human (aka EpicNpc staff), why do I need to reverify with an AI? I legit do not get this part of the decision. It makes 0 sense, actually 0 logic behind it.
I need an answer to these two problems the most.

what about Passport for Travelling Aboard? it always must be in english no matter of country
and i was verified by it

 

[Angel]

Bros are going full conspiracy theory mode ngl it's kinda funny to read

Yeah, I don't want to sound disrespectful, but it's hard to remain unaffected by certain things. They have no problem using Wise, which also uses Veriff, but they have an issue with EpicNPC. Just to clarify, once you've verified yourself with Wise, your data is already there. Doing or not this here, won't make any difference.

 

[dredgenx3]

Probably yes, it's same reason why Elon bought Twitter, to collect people ID, and get loans. It's what Wise and Crypto companies doing for years. It must be something huge behind all this, probably even aliens involved


I mean, come on guys, I understand that you do not want to it, but let's be serious okay?

Wise let me open checking account in different countries. What EpicNPC let me? Sell intellectual properties of gaming companies on the internet.

You guys trying to be an eBay now? Because eBay is shutting down all my auctions because of that.
I received email "(ABC you put the name) inc. not happy that I am selling their digital accounts, codes. So we have to put 3 day restrictions on your account and if that persist we gonna block all your accounts.

 

[Raiden Fafnir]

what about Passport for Travelling Aboard? it always must be in english no matter of country
and i was verified by it

"0 Shot I can get a passport as it is genuine hell to get it here"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I cannot make one, we do not travel abroad a whole lot here in Egypt, very very veeeeeery few people travel abroad here, especially that I have not done my mandatory military service yet.

 

[Holy]

It's clear that EpicNPC isn't changing their mind. Maybe we can close this debate? Nobody is forcing you to use this site. To me it's still safer and way easier to use than any other similar marketplace.

 

[YABUKIVTW]

These all ID verifications are just bonus tool for scammers, buying someone else ID on the streets of Kosovo, Bangalore or Islamabad is cheap for person who can make 1k$ from simple scam. And having ID verified badge is just bonus perk which they can show to dumb victims ,which are now misslead by EPICNPC that they are safe. Admins often ignore fact that scammers adapt to any change within hour and turn that in their favor. TG was supposed to fight scammers, and we all see how good is TG in that fight.

Nothing more to add
Bad change

 

[starglze]

Banned - Previously banned: Wilona

It's clear that EpicNPC isn't changing their mind. Maybe we can close this debate? Nobody is forcing you to use this site. To me it's still safer and way easier to use than any other similar marketplace.

This isn't a debate; these are opinions, experiences, suggestions, etc. of members who use this site for the better of it. Take this current situation as an example. Veriff, as a 1.9-rating company, also doesn't support many countries's languages, so many people from unsupported countries couldn't verify whether they wanted to or not. Now EpicNPC plans to delete all threads from unverified users after a month.

Do you really care for your customers if this is what you show them? Just because some people make accusations of this site not doing "enough" to stop scammers doesn't mean it has to rip off its own customers too. What is TG Middleman for then? **** update: I hope this site doesn't fully rot as someone who earns profit here.

 

[iconicedge]

i am from italy have tried all day long trying to verify but i cant it keeps asking for camera and microphone permissions gave the permissions nothing works, have tried from PC laptot phone android apple 3 different phones and nothing works to not talk about the ID card not recognised cause its not in english like WTF LOL, i really hope the devs removes this update cause its getting out of hand, is there anything we could do as a community to convince the devs to remove this update definetely not needed, some sort of POLL i dont know xD.

 

[PandaGod]

It's clear that EpicNPC isn't changing their mind. Maybe we can close this debate? Nobody is forcing you to use this site. To me it's still safer and way easier to use than any other similar marketplace.

How ugly that instead of seeing what people say that they do use the site, that they are real sellers, that they do care or give ideas about the changes that the page makes because I think it's the only one everyone uses since gk closed and others pages for sell/buy services or even before. Saying that we don't care what they say or think, no one forces them to use the page. Leaves a lot to think about

 

[suicid]

Another option could be offering a sliding scale for fees, where the percentage decreases as the transaction amount increases. This way, customers would still have the security of TG but with a fee that feels more reasonable for higher payments.

there just must be set maximum to fee % based on final price, not static one.

 

[solariszero]

I have to admit that I'm in the majority of others that don't support the need to verify again, especially with a company that only has a 1.9 positive rating on TrustPilot to begin with. I've done a good number of transactions using TG, too, even with the fee being so high because I trust the team here. If this is the proposed "'solution'" to stop scammers, then I think it's a poor one as people can simply message you outside of the site to begin with, etc.

I ask that the staff please reconsider using Veriff and find a better company that actually cares about people's safety and is more open to other languages that don't use the Latin alphabet.

Otherwise, it's been a good run, I suppose.

 

[suicid]

I cannot make one, we do not travel abroad a whole lot here in Egypt, very very veeeeeery few people travel abroad here, especially that I have not done my mandatory military service yet.

he about international passport but.. they always cost money to make, and a lot more then just going and buying fake id

 

[giuliana]

For people who have verification problems, simply do the verification from the PC, it will ask you to scan a QR and then you will have the active camera and microphone services, at least it worked for me

 

[iconicedge]

For people who have verification problems, simply do the verification from the PC, it will ask you to scan a QR and then you will have the active camera and microphone services, at least it worked for me

tried that multiple times doesnt work

 

[Tony and Friends]

on the other hand, more users who can not/wont to re-KYC = better for me
less competitors will be at epicnpc
win-win

 

[DanThePaladin]

Nevermind

 

[godillia1]

I find it really sad that we have to do this but most sales sites are scams, this site they are one of the rare websites that are real and secure.

 

[Yupilatos]

Oof, wish I had seen this before giving away my ID

Same with me hahaha

 

[ZZreroll.com]

It's clear that EpicNPC isn't changing their mind. Maybe we can close this debate? Nobody is forcing you to use this site. To me it's still safer and way easier to use than any other similar marketplace.

Yoooo wild take bro, you are a representative of this site.. I quite confident if not most at least half of the revenue on this site is coming from us, Seller. We bring people to use TG, and most importantly, we buy your freaking ads space, if seller leave, you guys also rip.
Some busniess empire fallen just exactly because of this specific reason. You don't realise your lost until they left and everything is too late to reverse and retrieve the provoking statement.

I can tell you I spend around 8k USD on ads here last month and I already cut back quite a few throughout the recent years due to less and lesser people already.

While this change do help me because I got a supportive family, grandparent willing to support me with their ID so even if it get breach someday in future, there is no monetary risk because they dont have any monetary online that can be abuse(retrieve) by ID info. Or if they somehow got too old and the system dont want to verify them, I got my old driving license that is gonna be total useless and expired soon to spare.
But I still stand with those oppose because, you need more seller to stay alive by providing more option, so that people only willing to shop. If you are a buyer, would you love to visit a site that have a few shop/option and somehow only one or two seller monopoly the section.

 

[AccountShark.net]

Just reported a scammer this morning. Thread was new so he must have submitted an ID to get verified and post it. Banned hours later.

So this change will surely stop scammers right? Right?

 

[Fluentcee]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

From my perspective this update has a few pros and cons. I'll just share mine as well. I see a lot of people neglecting many points on both sides, saying it's all good or all bad or just being very uncharitable about how effective it will be against scammers. It's definitely nuanced. Overall an improvement from my perspective.

Pros:

• Improved anti-scammer measures. Requires a scammer to either submit their own ID (unlikely) or find a way to bypass the verification to sell an item. The majority of scammers simply can't/ won't/ aren't smart enough to do this. Some probably will bypass it, but ultimately there is a limit to how many 1. Fake ID's they can buy/ generate; 2. Number of scams they can complete with a Fake ID/ bypassed verification. The turn around time of creating a viable EpicNPC account drastically decreases. Probably becomes nearly useless/ cost or time ineffective to do it after a few weeks/ months.
• The average seller is a much more likely to be legitimate. The average buyer will be less likely to get scammed. TG is still available for some extra protection at the point of sale.
• Relative to other KYC compliant websites, you have a free market here on EpicNPC. You get to control your payment method, terms, schedule, and can get pretty much 100% of the money without paying any to EpicNPC if you don't want to use a MM, Escrow, Epic Upgrade or advertising. You can say "Let's go somewhere else without KYC," but good luck with that. Seriously, there's nowhere I can see that is anything like or as good as EpicNPC. I really don't see anything replacing EpicNPC anytime soon.
• Since you don't pay anything to the website itself or have to use riskier payment methods like PA, GG, and others use, you'll probably find cheaper services and lower prices on items since sellers don't have to lose 15-30% on the sale. This makes both buyers and sellers want to use EpicNPC even more.
• On the seller side, control of payment methods is game changing vs other KYC sites. Chargeback scams are the number 1 reason why I choose to sell here in the first place. Any smart seller will know how much better it is here for this, verification is definitely worth the tradeoff with this massive upside.

Cons

• Some people cannot verify due to language or documentation issues. This is probably the biggest personal issue I have with the update, although I cannot find a solution. Although I'm no expert, KYC compliance from a legal perspective probably requires that you use one system universally. It's hard or maybe impossible to make exceptions, even if language support doesn't come soon. I feel for those who cannot use the website because of this.
• Have to verify to create a thread. Some seller simply won't want to. I feel like a lot of people's reasonings are rather weak on this point, many of them already using many services that require this information or have it stored on similar databases (Wise/ Paypal/ etc). To even sell an item, most times you have to tell someone your personal contact info which realistically is riskier already than a data breach. If you're American, I promise your info is already out there just by being alive. You should be using credit freezes/ other protective measures anyway in the modern day to protect yourself from ID theft and other cybercrimes.
• Buyer scams can still happen, aka theft and chargebacks. Ultimately these are less risky or common as seller scams. Most people want your money, not your valorant account, and need to create a thread to do so, and waiting to try and scam someone via messaging someone with a buying thread is like fishing without a rod. Chargeback scams are also less common since most sellers wouldn't risk giving away an account without getting paid first, and winning a chargeback is no guarantee from a buyer perspective, so it's a bit riskier scam to do. Still, if you're not cautious you can of course be scammed and get your goods stolen from you.
• Scams still can happen? People have pointed this out ad nauseum in this thread. Of course they can and will still happen. Not much of a reason to revert the update since many more would of course happen without verification. Anyone who thinks this will have no effect on scammers are not being very logical.
• Initial/ prolonged drop in supply as some sellers quit or decide to go elsewhere due to verification (seriously, where though? Discord? lol). Less supply will allow sellers to potentially charge more, which could potentially drive buyers away to alternative supply sources that are not EpicNPC. I think this will balance out pretty quickly overall though. Especially if it's a huge positive for buyers, which it will be due to the increased level of general safety of EpicNPC.

Overall the positive are more impactful than the negatives. And since there's probably a 0% chance this will be reverted, I think we should probably just embrace the change and look to recommend other things the site can do to improve rather than keep asking for verification to be removed.

 

[Goodman]

Those, who compare PayPal and veriff, twitter and veriff, are you serious?
You are comparing the richest person, whos been around since internet, to some 29 years old Estonian guy, with no background and the worst TOS for verification platform.
If you don't care about privacy, that's okay, maybe this is the only income you have and there is no other way for you, but some of us have bad experience.

Thing is we verified ourselves two times already, during 2-3 years, this one is third, does this seem normal to you?
I've never verified myself more than once anywhere, this is logical that some of the users have questions about verification, why do we have to verify every year.
If everything this is to prevent scamming, it's not, because we have been asking to remove guest accounts and latest replies from the start, but they still manage to make fake accounts and contact buyers (most of the time).

Please don't write some stupid examples about Elon and other companies, questions are simple:
Why do we have to verify almost every year or two, especially members, with 5-10+ years on the site. And if veriff fails in future, do we have to verify again with a new company?

Is it hard to keep old verified members?

Please keep your conspiracy theory clown jokes.
It's our private data/biometrics, so we have full rights to ask questions, when site is asking verification few times during 3 years.

 

[Fluentcee]

Is it hard to keep old verified members?

The issue is that EpicNPC's verification and Veriff's are not regulated equally. I'm not sure how EpicNPC did it before, but it was probably a local type of verification, nothing official or recognized by a governmental agency. So they have to pick a service who will complete all verification without exception to be in compliance. It didn't have to be Veriff, but here we are. I'm not expecting them to change it to something else, or at least not for a while. I can't speak on the 2-3 times you did it previously, I only did it once. I'm guessing it was all in-house and if EpicNPC was hacked, then it'd have been a data breach that would affect only EpicNPC members. I'd be curious if EpicNPC can shed any light on that point.

 

[Holy]

Thing is we verified ourselves two times already, during 2-3 years, this one is third, does this seem normal to you?

Absolutely not and I'd like to hear the explanation for this.

 

[Angel]

Those, who compare PayPal and veriff, twitter and veriff, are you serious?

I'm deadly serious. Do you really think hackers care about names or who's big and who's not? I can list several big companies that have had data leaks in just the last two years, and I bet you've been verified by many of them. If you want to stay anonymous on the internet in the 21st century, you can hide under some rock, or as better option, you might as well become Amish.

You are comparing the richest person, whos been around since internet, to some 29 years old Estonian guy, with no background and the worst TOS for verification platform.

Maybe you missed it, but this Estonian guy has already gained the trust of some of the same big companies like Visa and Wise. I already have Wise, so they already had my biometric data.

If you don't care about privacy, that's okay, maybe this is the only income you have and there is no other way for you, but some of us have bad experience.

I absolutely care, and I carefully choose where I leave my biometric data, among other things. And no, this is not my only source of income.

Thing is we verified ourselves two times already, during 2-3 years, this one is third, does this seem normal to you?

I clearly remember the previous idea was to store our data locally, as it was done before, and the majority don't like it. So, you asked, and now you have it. I've already verified myself three times as well.

Please don't write some stupid examples about Elon and other companies

When it comes to specific observations, I usually respond the same way. I mean, I enjoy conspiracy theories too, but there are limits.

Please keep your conspiracy theory clown jokes.
It's our private data/biometrics, so we have full rights to ask questions, when site is asking verification few times during 3 years.

I already provided mine, do you think I'm stupid? You don't trust a 29-year-old Estonian guy, but you trusted Mike, who stored the data locally. To me, there's not much difference. I had a choice: either comply with what the company asked or walk away. No one forced me to stay. It's the same what we have now, that's how this world works. And don't think I'm taking sides, I hate this as much as you do, and it's definitely the worst decision ever made, but it's what we have right now.

Absolutely not and I'd like to hear the explanation for this.

It's already explained above, new company, new rules.

 

[iconicedge]

this is the downfall of epicnpc if it keeps going like this, mark my words

 

[andikadewa]

Starting today, EpicNPC will be requiring ID verification for anyone who wants to list items or services for sale, including "buying" threads. This is not something we wanted to do, but as VPNs and phone services are becoming more common we feel in order to protect members and the community we had to add this requirement.


Current Verified Members

• All members will be required to re-verify their accounts, so even if you have previously verified, you will have to redo the process.
• Current verified members will have 30 days to reverify their account. After that they will lose their Verified badge and the ability to create new threads.

Verification Process

• The process is similar to the current process. Full name, phone verification, ID scan and selfie will be required.
• Drivers license, passport, residence permit, or ID card can be used. We are not requesting SSN or any tax ID.
• The verification process is now automated which means members will not have to wait 24 hrs for their verifications to be reviewed. Normally it should take a few minutes.
  • If a verification is flagged, this can delay the process.

Privacy and Security

• Verifications will be processed and stored by Veriff.com. Only EpicNPC employees will have access to this data. Moderators will not (same as before).
• Current verification data will be deleted in the near future. This is one of the reasons we are requiring members to re-verify their accounts.
• Privacy policy for Veriff.com https://www.veriff.com/privacy-notice

If you have any questions or concerns, please post below.

there is a lot problem please do not change anything if you make it more harder,, its to many forum contact me and want me to post on they site, but i am still here,, however, the 2nd verify is pending for like 3 days now, when the country is not complete too, i cant find my country indonesia, only malaysia in there can i choose

 

[andikadewa]

Will there be alternative verification methods? Veriff rejected my id because it in cyrillic.
If EpicNPC employees have access to data can they approve it manually in similar situations?

see its to many problem from that method

 

[Goodman]

I already provided mine, do you think I'm stupid? You don't trust a 29-year-old Estonian guy, but you trusted Mike, who stored the data locally. To me, there's not much difference. I had a choice: either comply with what the company asked or walk away. No one forced me to stay. It's the same what we have now, that's how this world works. And don't think I'm taking sides, I hate this as much as you do, and it's definitely the worst decision ever made, but it's what we have right now.

I'll just quote last one and answer to all these.

The issue is not only verification, thing is every new update on the site is the worst, than previous one, if you think I'm wrong, you can see the resonance.
I am always supporting good ideas, but since latest updates (guest accounts, new tg options and etc) we can clearly see that scammers has more advantages here, I've banned few newly verified users, who probably bought fake IDs.
Mike states that everything is to prevent scamming but we are just pushing old members to reverify third time agai (I don't understand why is this normal for you, but for me isn't)
Scammers still verify accounts without problem, so what we are doing? Just making things worst for older members, who have questions, why we have to verify third time again, when you already have their data.

I'm not calling anyone stupid or trying to hide under the rock, everyone has their own opinion and you are free to verify even 100th time, if you are okay with it.

I wrote more than I wanted here.

In short, what I don't like, is that Mike is asking our opinion, when everything is decided already and everyone knows, he won't change his mind.
So what's the point?

 

[andikadewa]

I'll just quote last one and answer to all these.

The issue is not only verification, thing is every new update on the site is the worst, than previous one, if you think I'm wrong, you can see the resonance.
I am always supporting good ideas, but since latest exchanges (guest accounts, new tg options and etc) we can clearly see that scammers has more advantages here, I've banned few newly verified users, who probably bought fake IDs.
Mike states that everything is to prevent scamming but we are just pushing old members to reverify third time agai (I don't understand why is this normal for you, but for me isn't)
Scammers still verify accounts without problem, so what we are doing? Just making things worst for older members, who have questions, why we have to verify third time again, when you already have their data.

I'm not calling anyone stupid or trying to hide under the rock, everyone has their own opinion and you are free to verify even 100th time, if you are okay with it.

I wrote more than I wanted here.

In short, what I don't like, is that Mike is asking our opinion, when everything is decided already and everyone knows, he won't change his mind.
So what's the point?

already 3 days waiting for pending verify, and there is one problem again , is not contain all country, i cant find indonesia to put my data,, so i choose malaysia to be closer

 

[MistiServices]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Solution to this would be separating verified members from nonverified:

Verified members should have perks like now and nonverified members should be limited to post 1-2 sale threads at same time, and by adding warnings on top of their threads would be enough.
Site already marked every gold selling thread as botters and thiefs, so adding warnings on threads of nonverified members is not something impossible.
Its not that verified sellers are problem here, problem is amount if IQ at some people.
Everything else is just nonsense and useless complication.

EpicNpc is already heavily against sellers and that wont change. Site is trying to protect dumb people, by making sellers pay for that.

Few of antiseller changes are :

• Removal of middleman section and plans to have only epicnpc staff conduct MM, was huge fight to get TG as it is now. Alot of MM who brought huge profits to site are gone after changes.​
• Attempt to ban discord and forcing sellers to use broken website chat.​
• Warning that each gold seller on epicnpc is botter and thief , just bcs some people in Admin team were unsatisfied with titles in threads of sellers.​
• Attempt to make epicnpc like g2 g , which is stopped for now, but idea is still well alive and moving forward , this with veriff is just one of last few steps. Compliance is necessary when you as site deal with real life money.​
• Increase in number of threads on first page , noone liked it.​
• Changes in sidebar, everyone complained.​

Lastly, we need to https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-saw-gerrera-save-rebellion-dream-star-wars-gif-27287782

 

[P1trsavanger]

People argue about how this will prevent scams but I guess that it is just a secondary reason for this drastic change, am I right? We are pushed into doing KYC on a RMT forum, ffs. I got verified ten years ago and it was stupid then but doing it in 2024 is crazy. I expect in future some category will have to go. And then another, maybe more AML measures. And so on.

 

[HaniOtaku]

Okay, let's say I want to verify with Veriff, I C A N ' T. I simply cannot, they do not recognize my ID (even though on their website they say they do), and when I made a ticket for EpicNpc support, guess what they told me? Welp, too bad. They told me and I quote
"I'm sorry, but at this time only Latin/English IDs are being accepted. If you're ID is in a different language, you will have to use another type.

For most countries we accept the following types of ID. However depending on your country, not all options are available.

• Drivers License
• Passport
• Residential Permit
• ID Card

"
I cannot do any of this at all. Residential permit is not a thing here in Egypt and even if it is, it will be in Arabic (Which again, they say that they support on their website but they don't)
0 Shot I can get a passport as it is genuine hell to get it here
Drivers License is also in Arabic and I don't have one because I don't drive
Only thing I have is my ID card which SHOULD BE more than enough but nooooooo

What annoys me the most is that I already got verified by a human (aka EpicNpc staff), why do I need to reverify with an AI? I legit do not get this part of the decision. It makes 0 sense, actually 0 logic behind it.
I need an answer to these two problems the most.

Is the back of your ID card also in Arabic ? Im from Algeria and my ID card also written on arabic but the back of the card written on english and my verification got approved

 

[Raiden Fafnir]

Is the back of your ID card also in Arabic ? Im from Algeria and my ID card also written on arabic but the back of the card written on english and my verification got approved

Back is in Arabic yea, I will legit probably just have to get one of my friends to the verification for me.... Which kind of defeats the whole purpose of this update. Any of the scammers can just do that, they can pay some suckers very low amount of money and get through the verification lol.

 

[deu8n]

In short, what I don't like, is that Mike is asking our opinion, when everything is decided already and everyone knows, he won't change his mind.
So what's the point?

Truly this thread has more than 300 replies out of which legit 80% are negative...

The response from admin team has been bunch of bs at first and after that nothing but complete silence... Nothing but play pretend, they are waiting to see how many sellers they are going to lose and only if the numbers are drastic enough then they'll consider rolling it back. There's literally 0 care about what we think