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[dokkanito]

It's a shame that EpicNPC will lose its community aspect, and the categories will be filled only with professional sellers who make a living from it. If verifying my EpicNPC account becomes mandatory later, I'll do it, but reluctantly

 

[Phantomous]

Ya'll really deleted my post and didn't say anything lol. I'll add some more food for thought.

This is a community based in RMT of digital goods. There has been and will always be risk involved. Nothing is 100% secure. The warning you put on user accounts that are new or pending scam cases against them do more than enough to help people identify to approach with caution. Accountshark put in an example of how this already isn't going to affect scammers who are dedicated to the cause to try to scam users. I don't really understand the approach you are taking when it comes to making large changes like this. Your louder source of feedback is from your active users of your site who use it often and they're sharing the same sentiment that it's not something they want. EpicNPC is a community driven sales force, if the people who are on it can't post on it because of these regulations, they're going to go somewhere else and the only people who are going to be listing items for sale are people who are going to have low reputation or are intending on scamming anyway. This adds an extra step of giving the illusion of security. As does TG. Why not put emphasis on people who have high reputation? Or add badges for years of activity so people know that "Hey, this person has been on the board for 15 years, it's unlikely they'd risk that for one transaction" or perhaps put more value on the reputation system inviting users to provide feedback if transactions are completed?

TG being mandatory for investigating people who get scammed is also a bad approach. Give the site a cut into your listings to create an additional point of failure. I've used TG before for some listings and the process was clunky and we had to coordinate schedules around 3 people instead of 2 and the TG middleman did some weird suspicious steps to secure the account. If the person selling the account wanted to recall the account, what's the most that would happen? A new user gets banned on EpicNPC and associated sites and that's it. Not like you get any of your money back, the silver lining is that it'd be unlikely they'd be able to make a new account and do it again and scam someone else.

One of the good things that EpicNPC had going for it was that you needed to use a bit of your brain when proceeding with a transaction and the community was big enough where you felt supported when things went wrong. You're negatively impacting the people who are reluctant to these changes and it's a shame that as time continues on decisions made are under the guise of investing in better security but that's just an illusion.

 

[Karamelin]

Starting today, EpicNPC will be requiring ID verification for anyone who wants to list items or services for sale, including "buying" threads. This is not something we wanted to do, but as VPNs and phone services are becoming more common we feel in order to protect members and the community we had to add this requirement.


Current Verified Members

• All members will be required to re-verify their accounts, so even if you have previously verified, you will have to redo the process.
• Current verified members will have 30 days to reverify their account. After that they will lose their Verified badge and the ability to create new threads.

Verification Process

• The process is similar to the current process. Full name, phone verification, ID scan and selfie will be required.
• Drivers license, passport, residence permit, or ID card can be used. We are not requesting SSN or any tax ID.
• The verification process is now automated which means members will not have to wait 24 hrs for their verifications to be reviewed. Normally it should take a few minutes.
  • If a verification is flagged, this can delay the process.

Privacy and Security

• Verifications will be processed and stored by Veriff.com. Only EpicNPC employees will have access to this data. Moderators will not (same as before).
• Current verification data will be deleted in the near future. This is one of the reasons we are requiring members to re-verify their accounts.
• Privacy policy for Veriff.com https://www.veriff.com/privacy-notice

If you have any questions or concerns, please post below.

my phone cameras take perfect pictures, but the verify app opens up my camera and everything in it is blurry, it doesn't adjust at all, which is related to the app itself.

 

[Tony and Friends]

folks who mentioned migration to oguser lol forgot about it if you a big seller who want to create multiple topics
there is only one big section for Game Services for example, and you allow post only 1-2 topics in it

they will warn/ban you if you create more

 

[deu8n]

folks who mentioned migration to oguser lol forgot about it if you a big seller who want to create multiple topics
there is only one big section for Game Services for example, and you allow post only 1-2 topics in it

they will warn/ban you if you create more

Folks who !mentioned that don't give a fuxk about oguser?

So stop shxtting on oguser lol, epicNPC ain't all roses and rainbows either as we can see with every subsequent update

We are only exploring other options in the case that epicNPC continues playing deaf to all of our complaints...

 

[Adoxia]

Ya'll really deleted my post and didn't say anything lol. I'll add some more food for thought.

This is a community based in RMT of digital goods. There has been and will always be risk involved. Nothing is 100% secure. The warning you put on user accounts that are new or pending scam cases against them do more than enough to help people identify to approach with caution. Accountshark put in an example of how this already isn't going to affect scammers who are dedicated to the cause to try to scam users. I don't really understand the approach you are taking when it comes to making large changes like this. Your louder source of feedback is from your active users of your site who use it often and they're sharing the same sentiment that it's not something they want. EpicNPC is a community driven sales force, if the people who are on it can't post on it because of these regulations, they're going to go somewhere else and the only people who are going to be listing items for sale are people who are going to have low reputation or are intending on scamming anyway. This adds an extra step of giving the illusion of security. As does TG. Why not put emphasis on people who have high reputation? Or add badges for years of activity so people know that "Hey, this person has been on the board for 15 years, it's unlikely they'd risk that for one transaction" or perhaps put more value on the reputation system inviting users to provide feedback if transactions are completed?

TG being mandatory for investigating people who get scammed is also a bad approach. Give the site a cut into your listings to create an additional point of failure. I've used TG before for some listings and the process was clunky and we had to coordinate schedules around 3 people instead of 2 and the TG middleman did some weird suspicious steps to secure the account. If the person selling the account wanted to recall the account, what's the most that would happen? A new user gets banned on EpicNPC and associated sites and that's it. Not like you get any of your money back, the silver lining is that it'd be unlikely they'd be able to make a new account and do it again and scam someone else.

One of the good things that EpicNPC had going for it was that you needed to use a bit of your brain when proceeding with a transaction and the community was big enough where you felt supported when things went wrong. You're negatively impacting the people who are reluctant to these changes and it's a shame that as time continues on decisions made are under the guise of investing in better security but that's just an illusion.

Anyway. I'll post it again, please don't delete my post without saying anything about it.
EpicNPC whenever they make changes:

Can you link me the thread were the post was deleted? I can only see one thing thats been deleted in the past few years from your account and it was a thread you had deleted. I will look into why the post was deleted.

 

[ZZreroll.com]

Those, who compare PayPal and veriff, twitter and veriff, are you serious?
You are comparing the richest person, whos been around since internet, to some 29 years old Estonian guy, with no background and the worst TOS for verification platform.
If you don't care about privacy, that's okay, maybe this is the only income you have and there is no other way for you, but some of us have bad experience.

Thing is we verified ourselves two times already, during 2-3 years, this one is third, does this seem normal to you?
I've never verified myself more than once anywhere, this is logical that some of the users have questions about verification, why do we have to verify every year.
If everything this is to prevent scamming, it's not, because we have been asking to remove guest accounts and latest replies from the start, but they still manage to make fake accounts and contact buyers (most of the time).

Please don't write some stupid examples about Elon and other companies, questions are simple:
Why do we have to verify almost every year or two, especially members, with 5-10+ years on the site. And if veriff fails in future, do we have to verify again with a new company?

Is it hard to keep old verified members?

Please keep your conspiracy theory clown jokes.
It's our private data/biometrics, so we have full rights to ask questions, when site is asking verification few times during 3 years.

Thats is why I will be using family member to verify this time, their wealth is not linked to online, so no risk. Younger generation like us usually have most of our wealth/finance assosicated online, that is why sensitive data like ID is important and too much to lose.

I verified once with my old real ID card which like 5 6 years ago, they have my data stored, it is more than enough. With my new ID card (our country allowed us to renew it once in lifetime when we reach legal age) basically most of my wealth is link and associated with it, whoever can show my ID to my bank, they basically half a foot succeed to access my wealth. It is too big of a risk to do so especially when Epicnpc have a data breach record too in the past.

Solution to this would be separating verified members from nonverified:

Verified members should have perks like now and nonverified members should be limited to post 1-2 sale threads at same time, and by adding warnings on top of their threads would be enough.
Site already marked every gold selling thread as botters and thiefs, so adding warnings on threads of nonverified members is not something impossible.
Its not that verified sellers are problem here, problem is amount if IQ at some people.
Everything else is just nonsense and useless complication.

EpicNpc is already heavily against sellers and that wont change. Site is trying to protect dumb people, by making sellers pay for that.

Few of antiseller changes are :

• Removal of middleman section and plans to have only epicnpc staff conduct MM, was huge fight to get TG as it is now. Alot of MM who brought huge profits to site are gone after changes.​
• Attempt to ban discord and forcing sellers to use broken website chat.​
• Warning that each gold seller on epicnpc is botter and thief , just bcs some people in Admin team were unsatisfied with titles in threads of sellers.​
• Attempt to make epicnpc like g2 g , which is stopped for now, but idea is still well alive and moving forward , this with veriff is just one of last few steps. Compliance is necessary when you as site deal with real life money.​
• Increase in number of threads on first page , noone liked it.​
• Changes in sidebar, everyone complained.​

You forget to add they limit the use of emoji and symbol on thread title and funniest part is block this emoji silently lol

 

[Sasoriyo]

Would we not be able to request for our data to be deleted, if we wish for it?

 

[Phantomous]

Can you link me the thread were the post was deleted? I can only see one thing thats been deleted in the past few years from your account and it was a thread you had deleted. I will look into why the post was deleted.

It was this thread lol

 

[Adoxia]

It was this thread lol

You have posted in this thread twice. This comment and the one prior. There has only been one deleted comment on this entire thread and it wasn’t from this account.

 

[Tony and Friends]

You forget to add they limit the use of emoji and symbol on thread title and funniest part is block this emoji silently lol

then why i still can use that green checkmark emoji in all my topic titles old and new?

 

[ZZreroll.com]

then why i still can use that green checkmark emoji in all my topic titles old and new?

 

[Fluentcee]

You forget to add they limit the use of emoji and symbol on thread title and funniest part is block this emoji silently lol

Probably a bug with bb code. I noticed it a while ago as well, but the blue one still works

 

[Adoxia]

I went back and looked at your threads that had these and none of the moderators changed anything. I would assume its likely a bug as stated above especially beings it seems that it works for some users. Even when I look at your previously posted threads without going into a specific one it shows the image of the checkmark but when I load the thread it is set to an asterisk.

Try adding a space between it and the words in your threads. That might be causing the issue.

 

[Futen]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Solution to this would be separating verified members from nonverified:

Verified members should have perks like now and nonverified members should be limited to post 1-2 sale threads at same time, and by adding warnings on top of their threads would be enough.
Site already marked every gold selling thread as botters and thiefs, so adding warnings on threads of nonverified members is not something impossible.
Its not that verified sellers are problem here, problem is amount if IQ at some people.
Everything else is just nonsense and useless complication.

EpicNpc is already heavily against sellers and that wont change. Site is trying to protect dumb people, by making sellers pay for that.

Few of antiseller changes are :

• Removal of middleman section and plans to have only epicnpc staff conduct MM, was huge fight to get TG as it is now. Alot of MM who brought huge profits to site are gone after changes.​
• Attempt to ban discord and forcing sellers to use broken website chat.​
• Warning that each gold seller on epicnpc is botter and thief , just bcs some people in Admin team were unsatisfied with titles in threads of sellers.​
• Attempt to make epicnpc like g2 g , which is stopped for now, but idea is still well alive and moving forward , this with veriff is just one of last few steps. Compliance is necessary when you as site deal with real life money.​
• Increase in number of threads on first page , noone liked it.​
• Changes in sidebar, everyone complained.​

It's best not to provoke with things that can't be proven.

- Middleman will still be used in large transactions, you should know that transactions above 1000$+, people do not hesitate to sacrifice their accounts even though they already have 500+ feedbacks, why? because it is very profitable, you only need to create another account & start from the beginning, pay some bucks to your friend to do Kyc, build reputation back, done

- There are many scammers on discord , many idiots don't confirm it via epicnpc chat, I bet you don't know the difference between I & l ( i & L ) , These 2 letters look the same

- I don't know what you're talking about, are you breaking any rules? False advertising is a violation.

- The difference is huge, this is a forum, g 2 g is not a forum

- This isn't anti-seller

- Are you serious, talking about something completely different ?

 

[Phantomous]

You have posted in this thread twice. This comment and the one prior. There has only been one deleted comment on this entire thread and it wasn’t from this account.

I posted the same GIF on Saturday and it was responded with 7 reactions to it and it's removed now. The activity isn't listed for me anymore either. I'm further fearful of any systems that's implemented here when you can't verify posts being deleted lol.

Context: Friend from this community sent me that, and I posted it and linked them the thread after. Continue to let me know how I didn't have a post there lol.

 

[EastLin]

I can't verify my ID card. I come from China

 

[yaldabaoth000]

I hope this is just my paranoid nonsense

But isnt this whole forum activities (account trading, service/boosting, etc) kinda breaking LAW??, by LAW what i meant is game publisher/developer term of service
I dont read whole of term of service and by no mean i am expert in law, but so far game publisher/developer can only enforce their rules by banning the account/player. And the effor to suing some rando for violating their term of service into oblivion is not make sense at all, the possibility of game publisher/developer doing that to some seller for easy buck are close to zero, but isnt zero

But now since our account now tied to personal identity, what happen if some game developer/publisher decide to combat all the acount trading, boosting service by asking law enforcement to force
veriff or epicnpc as whole to give up their user data in order to enact an order(example: suing some seller in MMORPG for selling currency and screw up the economy in game). does epicnpc and veriff must give up their user data? will they(epicnpc and veriff) will defend our user data from law enforcement? i dont think so

I meant in like cheating bussiness.. we have heard game publisher/developer and law enforcement works together to hunt cheat maker(example: valorant cheat maker arrested in china).. isnt our whole lot business kinda fall more on dark area than the grey area?.

One order from Tencent and all valorant booster get sued for violating term of service

I just want to hear your guys thoughts about this

 

[Fluentcee]

It can come down to your countries laws so definitely pay attention to those. Certain types of cheating are probably illegal, and especially the cheats allow you access or ownership of copywrited material. I don't know if that type of thing is even allowed to be sold on this website.

For cheating/ hacks in a competitive game, there may be legal avenues a company could take against an individual, but they'd probably be more interested in a distributor of such a thing, if at all. They mostly just ban for this type of thing too.

In general though, terms of service are not laws. Violating them would normally just mean a ban or suspension for your particular access to their services since you didn't abide by their terms for a temporary or permanent timeframe.

Really everything comes down to the actual laws and jurisdiction that is related. But probably not in 99% of cases you'd see on this website is what you're doing here illegal.

Scams, fraud, and other cybercrimes are a different matter though. The most common of these is theft, either of money directly or of an item/account/ service. Prevention of this is the main goal of any security measure on a site like this, such as the verification we have now. These types of crimes can be reported and prosecuted.

 

[andikadewa]

Ya'll really deleted my post and didn't say anything lol. I'll add some more food for thought.

This is a community based in RMT of digital goods. There has been and will always be risk involved. Nothing is 100% secure. The warning you put on user accounts that are new or pending scam cases against them do more than enough to help people identify to approach with caution. Accountshark put in an example of how this already isn't going to affect scammers who are dedicated to the cause to try to scam users. I don't really understand the approach you are taking when it comes to making large changes like this. Your louder source of feedback is from your active users of your site who use it often and they're sharing the same sentiment that it's not something they want. EpicNPC is a community driven sales force, if the people who are on it can't post on it because of these regulations, they're going to go somewhere else and the only people who are going to be listing items for sale are people who are going to have low reputation or are intending on scamming anyway. This adds an extra step of giving the illusion of security. As does TG. Why not put emphasis on people who have high reputation? Or add badges for years of activity so people know that "Hey, this person has been on the board for 15 years, it's unlikely they'd risk that for one transaction" or perhaps put more value on the reputation system inviting users to provide feedback if transactions are completed?

TG being mandatory for investigating people who get scammed is also a bad approach. Give the site a cut into your listings to create an additional point of failure. I've used TG before for some listings and the process was clunky and we had to coordinate schedules around 3 people instead of 2 and the TG middleman did some weird suspicious steps to secure the account. If the person selling the account wanted to recall the account, what's the most that would happen? A new user gets banned on EpicNPC and associated sites and that's it. Not like you get any of your money back, the silver lining is that it'd be unlikely they'd be able to make a new account and do it again and scam someone else.

One of the good things that EpicNPC had going for it was that you needed to use a bit of your brain when proceeding with a transaction and the community was big enough where you felt supported when things went wrong. You're negatively impacting the people who are reluctant to these changes and it's a shame that as time continues on decisions made are under the guise of investing in better security but that's just an illusion.

Anyway. I'll post it again, please don't delete my post without saying anything about it.
EpicNPC whenever they make changes:

the best opinion so far, dont get me wrong for first method to be verified is easy, untill they want us to re-verified when the system of re-verified is lame,, my verification is pending on 4 days now, but idc anymore already find another web toll sell my acc,,, theyre even contact me for be they member, becouse they know me, i am trsuted and all my item is good stuff

 

[andikadewa]

It can come down to your countries laws so definitely pay attention to those. Certain types of cheating are probably illegal, and especially the cheats allow you access or ownership of copywrited material. I don't know if that type of thing is even allowed to be sold on this website.

For cheating/ hacks in a competitive game, there may be legal avenues a company could take against an individual, but they'd probably be more interested in a distributor of such a thing, if at all. They mostly just ban for this type of thing too.

In general though, terms of service are not laws. Violating them would normally just mean a ban or suspension for your particular access to their services since you didn't abide by their terms for a temporary or permanent timeframe.

Really everything comes down to the actual laws and jurisdiction that is related. But probably not in 99% of cases you'd see on this website is what you're doing here illegal.

Scams, fraud, and other cybercrimes are a different matter though. The most common of these is theft, either of money directly or of an item/account/ service. Prevention of this is the main goal of any security measure on a site like this, such as the verification we have now. These types of crimes can be reported and prosecuted.

not answer anything,,, just read what people complaining about first

 

[EastLin]

I can't verify my ID card. I come from China

@EpicNPC

 

[YABUKIVTW]

I hope this is just my paranoid nonsense

But isnt this whole forum activities (account trading, service/boosting, etc) kinda breaking LAW??, by LAW what i meant is game publisher/developer term of service
I dont read whole of term of service and by no mean i am expert in law, but so far game publisher/developer can only enforce their rules by banning the account/player. And the effor to suing some rando for violating their term of service into oblivion is not make sense at all, the possibility of game publisher/developer doing that to some seller for easy buck are close to zero, but isnt zero

But now since our account now tied to personal identity, what happen if some game developer/publisher decide to combat all the acount trading, boosting service by asking law enforcement to force
veriff or epicnpc as whole to give up their user data in order to enact an order(example: suing some seller in MMORPG for selling currency and screw up the economy in game). does epicnpc and veriff must give up their user data? will they(epicnpc and veriff) will defend our user data from law enforcement? i dont think so

I meant in like cheating bussiness.. we have heard game publisher/developer and law enforcement works together to hunt cheat maker(example: valorant cheat maker arrested in china).. isnt our whole lot business kinda fall more on dark area than the grey area?.

One order from Tencent and all valorant booster get sued for violating term of service

I just want to hear your guys thoughts about this

Very good point.
I am worried about this as well since I am from Germany which is strict in terms of laws and punishments ngl..
@EpicNPC

 

[Tony and Friends]

1234

Use another green checkmark, like in all my topics

 

[Tony and Friends]

I hope this is just my paranoid nonsense

But isnt this whole forum activities (account trading, service/boosting, etc) kinda breaking LAW??, by LAW what i meant is game publisher/developer term of service
I dont read whole of term of service and by no mean i am expert in law, but so far game publisher/developer can only enforce their rules by banning the account/player. And the effor to suing some rando for violating their term of service into oblivion is not make sense at all, the possibility of game publisher/developer doing that to some seller for easy buck are close to zero, but isnt zero

But now since our account now tied to personal identity, what happen if some game developer/publisher decide to combat all the acount trading, boosting service by asking law enforcement to force
veriff or epicnpc as whole to give up their user data in order to enact an order(example: suing some seller in MMORPG for selling currency and screw up the economy in game). does epicnpc and veriff must give up their user data? will they(epicnpc and veriff) will defend our user data from law enforcement? i dont think so

I meant in like cheating bussiness.. we have heard game publisher/developer and law enforcement works together to hunt cheat maker(example: valorant cheat maker arrested in china).. isnt our whole lot business kinda fall more on dark area than the grey area?.

One order from Tencent and all valorant booster get sued for violating term of service

I just want to hear your guys thoughts about this

breaking game ToS is not against LAW in all countries

only in South Korea some of that activities really against LAW

 

[andikadewa]

It's best not to provoke with things that can't be proven.

- Middleman will still be used in large transactions, you should know that transactions above 1000$+, people do not hesitate to sacrifice their accounts even though they already have 500+ feedbacks, why? because it is very profitable, you only need to create another account & start from the beginning, pay some bucks to your friend to do Kyc, build reputation back, done

- There are many scammers on discord , many idiots don't confirm it via epicnpc chat, I bet you don't know the difference between I & l ( i & L ) , These 2 letters look the same

- I don't know what you're talking about, are you breaking any rules? False advertising is a violation.

- The difference is huge, this is a forum, g 2 g is not a forum

- This isn't anti-seller

- Are you serious, talking about something completely different ?

how about when you try to re-verified,but there is not contain ur country in the option?

 

[andikadewa]

Probably yes, it's same reason why Elon bought Twitter, to collect people ID, and get loans. It's what Wise and Crypto companies doing for years. It must be something huge behind all this, probably even aliens involved


I mean, come on guys, I understand that you do not want to it, but let's be serious okay?

the option in re-verified not contain my country..is another problem when you want to do re- verif

 

[Futen]

how about when you try to re-verified,but there is not contain ur country in the option?

Check here https://www.veriff.com/supported-countries

 

[audio4life]

I can't verify my ID card. I come from China

haha, me too, I am from Taiwan
which my national ID got no any "english" on it, and I dont have passport.

 

[Futen]

I hope this is just my paranoid nonsense

But isnt this whole forum activities (account trading, service/boosting, etc) kinda breaking LAW??, by LAW what i meant is game publisher/developer term of service
I dont read whole of term of service and by no mean i am expert in law, but so far game publisher/developer can only enforce their rules by banning the account/player. And the effor to suing some rando for violating their term of service into oblivion is not make sense at all, the possibility of game publisher/developer doing that to some seller for easy buck are close to zero, but isnt zero

But now since our account now tied to personal identity, what happen if some game developer/publisher decide to combat all the acount trading, boosting service by asking law enforcement to force
veriff or epicnpc as whole to give up their user data in order to enact an order(example: suing some seller in MMORPG for selling currency and screw up the economy in game). does epicnpc and veriff must give up their user data? will they(epicnpc and veriff) will defend our user data from law enforcement? i dont think so

I meant in like cheating bussiness.. we have heard game publisher/developer and law enforcement works together to hunt cheat maker(example: valorant cheat maker arrested in china).. isnt our whole lot business kinda fall more on dark area than the grey area?.

One order from Tencent and all valorant booster get sued for violating term of service

I just want to hear your guys thoughts about this

Are you sure when you're selling a game accounts legally through an agreement with the owner can result in jail?

Is there a word "sue" in the game, other than being banned if you are caught selling your game accounts ?

 

[Angel]

So we have some top sellers who are here for years and who wants to verify but they can’t. GG for sure. It would be much better that you keept data stored like before.

 

[Angel]

@EpicNPC is there an alternative solution for those who want to verify but can't? We can't just abandon these members just because Veriff doesn't support their countries, it makes no sense.

 

[andikadewa]

Check here https://www.veriff.com/supported-countries

is QnA link...no no...i dont need the disscussion again,u guys need to fixed my re-verif, already waiting 4 days pending

 

[andikadewa]

@EpicNPC is there an alternative solution for those who want to verify but can't? We can't just abandon these members just because Veriff doesn't support their countries, it makes no sense.

simple, use another method! there is a lot problem in there, take a pick, slow respon, pending, no country in there ,error on that site, etc

 

[andikadewa]

So we have some top sellers who are here for years and who wants to verify but they can’t. GG for sure. It would be much better that you keept data stored like before.

i missed the problem,
top seller, means they are trustable person, ur review point is the prove also hard to get, is more funny, when the top seller with a lot good review, cant have easy way to verif

 

[The Integrity]

I posted the same GIF on Saturday and it was responded with 7 reactions to it and it's removed now. The activity isn't listed for me anymore either. I'm further fearful of any systems that's implemented here when you can't verify posts being deleted lol.

I remember your post and it's indeed disappeared without a trace. I'm assuming one of the admins hard deleted it instead of regular delete. It was a troll post, can't complain really.

 

[Mr. Fox]

Without a doubt, this does nothing for dedicated scammers. If someone is good enough to bypass the current barriers to scam, they are good enough to buy IDs from others forums that you can find on Google.

 

[EpicNPC]

I removed 2-3 meme images and removed 2 more just now. I don't mind comments and constructive criticism, but we don't need pages full of memes. I didn't want this thread overtaken with memes, that is why they were removed.


1. We are working with Veriff to provide support for non-Latin alphabet IDs. This should be available in the next few days. Those members who were having issues will then be able to resubmit.

2. We are considering extending the 30 day grace period for some long term members (3+ years) on request if they continue to have issues after the above update. However this will be temporary, most likely 30 additional days so they can obtain different ID type. There will be no permanent exceptions for the verification requirement. I'm sorry.

---------------------

I will respond to "This will stop scammers, right?" meme and many similar type comments.

There is no update or security feature that will block 100% of scammers. Simply not possible. The goal is to significantly decrease the amount of scams and scammers on the site, which I believe this update is capable of accomplishing.

As I mentioned earlier over 50% of new accounts were being created by scammers. They might scam 2-3 people per day, as the scammer who posted earlier in this thread claimed, however they contact hundreds of members per day. As a new member, if you get contacted 1-2 times per day by scammers, you will obviously think this site is overrun by them and leave. This does not give a good impression for new members.

The verification change is to block scammers who are selling, but at the same time we are making other changes around the site to stop chat and reply abuses. We have already seen a significant decrease in seller scams and a shift to chat and posts, but even those are also decreasing.

This verification update was made only a week ago and we have identified a few methods scammers have adopted. Those are going to be targeted in an upcoming update to harden the verification process.

Our main focus today is to provide more support for non-English IDs and over the next few weeks make improvements to security in various areas.

 

[horror]

Banned - fake ID violation

and now what is this bullshit?

 

[EpicNPC]

That BS is catching another scammer.

 

[Holy]

That BS is catching another scammer.

Savage!

 

[Sasoriyo]

@EpicNPC If I ever desire for my ID & Photo to be deleted, would you be able to do that?

 

[AccountShark.net]

I removed 2-3 meme images and removed 2 more just now. I don't mind comments and constructive criticism, but we don't need pages full of memes. I didn't want this thread overtaken with memes, that is why they were removed.


1. We are working with Veriff to provide support for non-Latin alphabet IDs. This should be available in the next few days. Those members who were having issues will then be able to resubmit.

2. We are considering extending the 30 day grace period for some long term members (3+ years) on request if they continue to have issues after the above update. However this will be temporary, most likely 30 additional days so they can obtain different ID type. There will be no permanent exceptions for the verification requirement. I'm sorry.

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I will respond to "This will stop scammers, right?" meme and many similar type comments.

There is no update or security feature that will block 100% of scammers. Simply not possible. The goal is to significantly decrease the amount of scams and scammers on the site, which I believe this update is capable of accomplishing.

As I mentioned earlier over 50% of new accounts were being created by scammers. They might scam 2-3 people per day, as the scammer who posted earlier in this thread claimed, however they contact hundreds of members per day. As a new member, if you get contacted 1-2 times per day by scammers, you will obviously think this site is overrun by them and leave. This does not give a good impression for new members.

The verification change is to block scammers who are selling, but at the same time we are making other changes around the site to stop chat and reply abuses. We have already seen a significant decrease in seller scams and a shift to chat and posts, but even those are also decreasing.

This verification update was made only a week ago and we have identified a few methods scammers have adopted. Those are going to be targeted in an upcoming update to harden the verification process.

Our main focus today is to provide more support for non-English IDs and over the next few weeks make improvements to security in various areas.

Your system let the scammer through and he was only banned because I identified and reported them. I guarantee you there’s no better remedy to scammers than people who care about this community doing their part to keep it clean, but you aren’t ready to have that discussion.

 

[EpicNPC]

Yes, but we do not hold or store your verification data. You would have to make the request to Veriff.com. We can also make the request on your behalf.

https://www.veriff.com/privacy-notice

(4) The right to deletion: The right to have us delete the personal data we maintain about you.

 

[MistiServices]

Your system let the scammer through and he was only banned because I identified and reported them. I guarantee you there’s no better remedy to scammers than people who care about this community doing their part to keep it clean, but you aren’t ready to have that discussion.

Savage.

 

[EpicNPC]

Your system let the scammer through and he was only banned because I identified and reported them. I guarantee you there’s no better remedy to scammers than people who care about this community doing their part to keep it clean, but you aren’t ready to have that discussion.

Reports from members is absolutely needed to help us find and ban scammers. We rely on this greatly and appreciated everyone that makes these types of reports. Automated systems can only catch so many, so yes, we do reply on members to help us.

However automated systems do work and play a big part. We ban about 70% of accounts upfront. Some are delayed bans that require a manual review. We also ban more during upgrades attempts, so every system plays a part.

 

[MistiServices]

Yes, but we do not hold or store your verification data. You would have to make the request to Veriff.com. We can also make the request on your behalf.

https://www.veriff.com/privacy-notice

What is with data u had before , with all the IDs and passports we sent to you? Can you provide members of your community some explanation and most importantly PROOFS,what will happen with those documents?

 

[EpicNPC]

It will be deleted once the grace period ends. If the grace period is extended, then the deletion will also be extended.

 

[Sasoriyo]

Yes, but we do not hold or store your verification data. You would have to make the request to Veriff.com. We can also make the request on your behalf.

https://www.veriff.com/privacy-notice

Thank you, it's not that bad then.

 

[Desire_Ink]

Well, I wasnt very optimistic about decision to add this verification at the begining since there people who do not like to share any of their personal info online... But now I think it is actualy very good update. I shared my ID with admins of EpicNPC once already years ago and did it again now. Verification system works good and the process is simple enough. Also, in my opinion, there is nothing to hide for an honest person. If you are just a seller, reseller or buyer it would be totaly ok and reasonable to do ID verification. Concerned will be only people who have something to hide.