Scammed by koradorel

[Savager@_@]

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Purchase Date:April 16th 2018
Date the problem begain:April 18th 2018
Method of Contact Used (chat progam)hone Number, And Discord (he blocked me on both) I also added his skype but he ignored me and I also tried to direct message him on Instagram but he also ignored me
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Instant Messenger username of the person you are accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/126...(18x-110)-Elite-2400-PvP-4-set-illusions-tmog
Approximate value of property: A little above 2000$ 450$ for his first account 450 to unlock his vanilla account 50 dollars for bfa 15 dollarsfor game time which I was nice enough to give him cause I considered him a friend I also gave him about 100 dollars extra for being a cool guy, and around 1000$ for his main account I paid blizzard to unlock the account, I paid him in prepaid visa cards
Was Trade Guardian used? If so, what is the TG ID# n/A

What is the dispute about?

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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
https://imgur.com/a/GFbjFC9
https://imgur.com/a/jZZseQ5
https://imgur.com/a/xj14EP8
https://imgur.com/a/u8hVH0U
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):I paid him in visa cards
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he is the original owner? (provide proof)I no longer have our discord chatlogs
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)He provided the email password and sqa he apparently did not feel comfortable giving out his ID as he stated
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? around 2 days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

Vague information? Screenshots that show what exactly? Who even is this? Is this a legitimate thread lol?

 

[Savager@_@]

https://imgur.com/a/Gh2xgBe Not much else needs to be said

 

[doomedtofail]

Right click his username on skype and screenshot that and post it here thatll prove who you are soeaking to

 

[Savager@_@]

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https://imgur.com/a/EfKJmUI Of course the guys gonna lie hes a freaking scammer. He blocked me on discord ask him to show his discord blocked list I BET I'm on there also ask him to show his blocked iPhone contacts ill also be on there. Its saddening that I trusted this guy, and gave him all this.

 

[doomedtofail]

that is his skype as indicated here
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1136987-Multi-110s-MoP-CM-WoD-CM-2300-RBG?highlight=reza.zinn

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

https://imgur.com/dFe6ZGz As per request?

I would greatly appreciate some insight as to what exactly is going on here as it seems to be interfering with my ability to finalize purchases with other members of Epicnpc. Thank you for your time. I have nothing to hide, I just want this to come to a hasty and accurate solution as a mage I just purchased is now on hold... lol

Also as per request

https://imgur.com/FthFk5n

 

[Savager@_@]

Lol, you removed me from the block list, then added me right back to it after you posted that i see my skype message is unread can you respond and we further discuss this that way? im the guy that's under Wednesday but you already knew that. Please message me so we can talk about this and ill drop all of the accusations all I want to do is talk.

 

[Savager@_@]

Some of the money was paid on paypal the rest was paid with visa cards heres the paypal transactions https://imgur.com/a/VgYekED https://imgur.com/a/ZJwQP4U

 

[Savager@_@]

The money was sent in bits for my paypal has issues allowing me to send a huge amount of money, so i had to send the money like that incase youre wondering

 

[Savager@_@]

https://imgur.com/a/ImUBuqE Proof of me messaging him

 

[Savager@_@]

YOU stated that the account was sold, a month later its magically up for sell again? hmmm lets think about this for a minute.

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

Here is what it looks like from my side. If you were wondering.

https://imgur.com/yOkugzI

What does that proof of you messaging me show exactly? Other than you wishing to pro-longingly waste everyone's time with a spam thread.

 

[Savager@_@]

You obviously have two paypals, As I said add me on skype back so we can talk youre making yourself look bad, we all know you scammed me all i wanna do is talk about it and ask why you did it after all i did for u why cant you just add me on skype? are you afraid of facing the truth or are you scared youre gonna slip and say something accidently and i use it against you look we both know you scammed me lets just get this over with and you admit to it

 

[Savager@_@]

YOU STILL have not answered why the account was marked sold but then relisted a month later? can you elaborate on that please

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

While I am trying my best to refrain from caving into directly firing shots at the accusing party - Firstly, if our first point of contact is going to be skype about a thread aimed to take an account, the last thing that I would to would be to accept a friend request where my personal information can be stolen. Much like how it would be wise never to click links from untrusted users. As for your constant accusations to my personal affiliation with you and how this elaborate stunt would somehow make me feel "afraid" or "scared", how would speaking with you on skype change any of that? This whole situation reminds me of the emails from arabian princes offerring me 20,000,000$ to store their money in my bank account.

If you really must know, the account posted on the market was sold. And remains sold, much as my good friend Migi does, I also deal with helping buyers resell their accounts. Something may have been unsatisfactory, it is beyond me.

I will only be responding to the moderator from now on, for fear that most of this message went to waste either way.

 

[Savager@_@]

Yea the account was supposed to be sold TO ME but you changed all the ******* information to it, at this point youre obviously trolling

 

[EpicNPC CM]

[MENTION=501768]Savager@_@[/MENTION] post the detailed paypal payment showing the email

 

[Savager@_@]

https://imgur.com/a/IFZ7SLn The paypal profile picture is almost exactly identical to his on epicnpc
https://imgur.com/a/bVWN9OY notice how it says VexaCorp in his Skype information it also says the same thing on his paypal
https://imgur.com/a/tHqalew here is a screenshot of where it says vexacorp on his paypal, come on lets think here first the profile pictures are identical, secondly vexacorp is in his bio as well as his paypal it was probably a business paypal of which he used the name vexacorp as a business name this cant be a coincidence, obviously this guy is a scammer and should be punished

 

[EpicNPC CM]

We need to see the paypal email you sent money to.

It should be in the detailed paypal statement. Did they mention the paypal email in the chat?

 

[Savager@_@]

no email shows up just shows paxonym

 

[doomedtofail]

koradorel you are also showing your paypal activity after the dates this user showed.

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

https://imgur.com/20bUObh 90 day history should be more than enough? can provide more upon request.

 

[Savager@_@]

Why in your payment history does it say payment from reza zinn you obviously have multiple paypals.... https://imgur.com/a/uSEIzxb

 

[koradorel]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

Both paypal accounts are held under the same name (holy crap, it's almost like I'm reza zinn *gasp*) - the only thing your screenshot shows is that I have a business and a personal paypal account. The one being accused (business) has payments from my personal account.

 

[Savager@_@]

Okay you just admitted to having two paypals, can you provide the other paypal history UPON request like you said

 

[Savager@_@]

Why would you make a business paypal under the same name as your personal and your real name makes no sense?????

 

[Savager@_@]

Him giving me his paypal email https://imgur.com/a/THP9AJA
Him telling me his name which matches his skype and paypal https://imgur.com/a/Al1Z31x
random messages of my dumb *** being nice to him https://imgur.com/a/4FgUdTZ
Solid ******* proof https://imgur.com/a/zCRXwM5 https://imgur.com/a/gtf77j0
Him being autistic and lying for sympathy so I can still buy his account after I said I don't want it https://imgur.com/a/lSswMGw https://imgur.com/a/vwL5vHX https://imgur.com/a/J8Q3DDw
Me telling him ill give him 267$ extra for dog food and a pet cage for his husky he was gonna buy with his money which I highly doubt he was gonna do.



remove this **** bag off of epicnpc hes a scammer this is solid proof right here I don't know what else you will need! This proves EVERYTHING either tell him to give me the account back or ban him please! this is such bullshit hes a compulsive liar please do not believe a word that comes out of his mouth! he needs to be banned now!

 

[Savager@_@]

https://imgur.com/a/IrJXrJD

 

[EpicNPC CM]

[MENTION=334921]koradorel[/MENTION] that is your discord and paypal email is it not?

 

[Savager@_@]

Its safe to say he isnt gonna reply or hes gonna lie and say it isnt lol.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

ban in 24 hrs

 

[koradorel]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

Believe it or not, Some people have jobs and lives . That is my email and that is my discord. Strange that this is the first time you attempted to contact me too https://imgur.com/F7zeIRE.'

After researching, if there was a message history, i would have been able to pull it up by clicking on his contact when he attempted to add me as a friend.

https://imgur.com/Q3fgf9B

hmmmm....

Not to mention :

https://imgur.com/gPdmRNC

If you would like to contact the actual buyer and reseller of the account, tester#9657 is his discord.

 

[Savager@_@]

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>that’s my discord
>I didn’t say none of that
obvipusly you deleted our messages OBVIOUSLY YOU DID IF I PROVIDED OUR CHAT LOGS YOU LITERALLY MADE NO SENSE WHAT YOU JUST POSTED I BASICALLY PROVED YOU WRONG WITH WHAT I POSTED

 

[Savager@_@]

Here. https://imgur.com/a/KuvNs81
https://imgur.com/a/P3rgHWj Play the you don't know me card all you want its not gonna work you know you scammed me ****face.

 

[Savager@_@]

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That tester discord is 10/10 times urs.

 

[koradorel]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1306611-Scammed-by-koradorel/page3

That contact information was for the moderators of epicnpc. Please refrain from spamming and cursing out my contact.

Also in correlation to your previous breakdown where you told me to kill myself - https://cdn.[Social group links not...7687087740813325/449600471900880908/image.png - please keep your toxic attitude and accusations to this thread. At least they can be moderated here. Also to clarify further that you just assaulted another person aside from myself (since you are clearly dilusional) - my phone carrier is sprint not verizon.

https://cdn.[Social group links not...7687087740813325/449604709867716609/image.png "I name changed snowdrift" (Feel free to check back on the paypal logs, no payments to blizzard for a name change back, assuming I would have to since he name changed my toon.)

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/darkspear/snowdríft <--- ????

 

[Savager@_@]

I would like to apologize to you and your friend for my toxic behaviours anyway, I contacted your friend he cant provide any proof he bought it you guys both live in the same state he paid you in checks so he cant provide a paypal transaction he cant provide any proof at all that he bought it, anyway im very sorry for the toxic attitude hope u can forgive me.

 

[Savager@_@]

[MENTION=542212]korade[/MENTION]l I just noticed that isnt your toon that you linked heres your real toon right here https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/emerald-dream/kunaio https://imgur.com/a/upRXB6u

 

[Savager@_@]

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https://imgur.com/a/KuvNs81
https://imgur.com/a/P3rgHWj
Just gonna repost this since u didn't happen to notice it proof right there that's your discord

 

[Savager@_@]

So like is no one gonna reply and let the scammer win? It’s been days now

 

[doomedtofail]

It was the weekend and then it was a holiday admins work business hours and had holiday off.

 

[Savager@_@]

Oh okay I don’t think it’s a excuse for koradel to not respond for I posted that 3 days ago and he was online 2 days ago...

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Koradel banned

koradorel
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