Scammed?

[BOOSTIO]

Dispute Against

DefAge

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Information
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Purchase Date: 19.02.2022
Date the problem began: 19.02.2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord and Epic
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: DefAge#5003
Your Instant Messenger ID: EV#9356

Other information: it seems like that three other people also got already scammed @bexo @tkien and there is another one who wrote me 10 minutes ago. I only have contact with bexo, I also contacted tkien but I got no answer. But tkien wrote a feedback.


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/eu-central-selling-lost-ark-gold-4-usd-per-1k.2169626/
Approximate value of property: $170,00 USD for 45k gold
Was Trade Guardian used? Nope
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? -

What is the dispute about?

The seller was all time online and promised, before I sent the money, he would do my order now, after he recieved the money with PP Friends. This guy suddenly disappeared but did not block me. Again: He was all the time online!
Then he claimed, he has internet issues with his provider and no stable connection. Again, he was online 24/7.
I asked for a refund, he said, he can't since he has no money on his PP and will send it on monday. Everything is weird and since this guy allready has a negative feedback from a other buyer, I think there is something wrong.

He could ask a friend to help out or even send the money back (no problem in 2022).

Like I said, I also recieved a message here in Epic from a 3rd buyer who has sent him money yesterday... 80 bucks.. But @DefAge told the buyer that the Lost Ark Servers are maxed out (and not his connection has problems). He was also online when the servers were fine... I play all the night through.
If I missed something, please let me know. English is not my mothertongue.

Proofs here:

No contact today, 24/7 offline.

 

[SaltnVinegar]

@DefAge Can you respond here please

 

[Dhab]

Any update on this?

 

[BOOSTIO]

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@Ksalol

Nope. Are you Roo from discord? (Roo also sent him money).

 

[Angel]

@DefAge Can you respond here please

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[bexo]

I was also fooled by him, I thought he was a loyal seller seeing his profile with so many positive reviews instead he turned out to be only a scammer who like me fooled other people

 

[BOOSTIO]

No updates so far, last time he was online was last night (dispute was already made in that time).

 

[xPhantomsSky]

Same boat here. Got scammed 170 USD to DefAge. Same stories as the other people who also got played by DefAge. I hope he clears this, the fact that multiple people are here proves this is huge.

Tl;dr of my screenshots, the story of DefAge; connection is fine, with only minor issues before I sent the payment. After I send payment, everything goes south. DefAge claims there's a blizzard in Russia, which I start to give him the benefit of the doubt. Because I get more impatient as the days go by he now won't even update me anything because it has been a week. And today is the promised day where he will get back to me via a refund on paypal. Today is Monday, and I have not heard anything from DefAge nor see a refund on my PayPal. 2/13/2022 trade happened. Now 2/21/2022 and still nothing from DefAge.

At this point I need a refund from him 170 USD, which still has not happened because he will likely continue to tell me and the other people who he may have scammed that it's his internet connection to blame not himself.
Also have gotten in contact with BOOSTIO and tkien who have been played by DefAge just like me. BOOSTIO 170 USD and tkien 40 USD.

 

[BOOSTIO]

Thanks for posting this @xPhantomsSky

I got doubts in the way he was writing. There are formulations in his texts which shows, that something is odd (lying). Also, if you compare the texts you will recognize that there are variations of truth and the way he was writng: I got instantly a bad feel after I was sending the money.
first his kids, then bad LA-servers (were fine at this time), then his ISP. Yea, ok.

Where is no exchange going on and no refund happened right now.
Even if he has internet problems and he knows that he have issues, he don't have either to sell or to offer stuff.

And ofc, his internet is working fine if people contacting him and want to order stuff.
Also, I would like to mention... When was Lost Ark released? Doesn't the game require an active internet connection to hoard gold?

That's why I ask for help and ask for a permanent ban. So or so, money is gone. And I doubt that the 0.1 percent chance will occur that there will be a reversal/refund.
Tkien is already waiting weeks and we really do not life in the 7th century.

 

[SaltnVinegar]

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[tkien]

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I also paid him $40 for Warframe
Attached is partial chat from Discord

 

[SaltnVinegar]

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Show his Discord UID please

 

[tkien]

Attached

 

[xPhantomsSky]

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Discord ID: DefAge#5003
Discord UID: 184365564603400192
from the Copy ID, no nitro, badges; HypeSquad Briliance

 

[xPhantomsSky]

In case asked

Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sale-1-7-per-100-mil-closers-world-credits-cheap-and-fast.1371038/
Approximate value of property: $170,00 USD for 10b credits
Was Trade Guardian used? Nope
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? -

 

[BOOSTIO]

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UID: 184365564603400192

@tkien

Check this out: https://techswift.org/2020/04/22/how-to-find-your-user-id-on-discord/

 

[tkien]

DefAge#5003
184365564603400192

 

[BOOSTIO]

No contact until now.
Another guy wrote a negative feedback: @Cypher1250

DefAge last time seen online: this Monday. (Yesterday)

 

[Cypher1250]

He just keeps giving the same reply for the past month I don’t know if it’s a scam cause why would he keep responding even if it’s every 2-4 days

 

[Cypher1250]

No way this is not a scam, litterally every chat here was basically a copy and paste full of excuses wow

 

[BOOSTIO]

There are horrible blizzards in russia a month ago, that's true but even if he is involved in such a szenario... He can't taking orders in that case.

Next issue is, if you are a new buyer, suddenly he is available and writes back and ofc he has time to make money-transfers. Not bad for someone who has much trouble with ISP. No one knows how much people are involved. Don't be stupid guys. It seems the number is increasing day by day. (Only here on Epic).

 

[Angel]

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[EpicNPC]

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[xPhantomsSky]

As of today, still no update from DefAge. At this point this is considered an exit scam. I've literally left him alone to his own devices to not "bother" this person and praying he stays true to his word, but no, that is not the case. The goes for the other people who have been scammed. DefAge as long as he isn't replying here, we can only assume he is bailing out, running away with a load of bucks of off us.

Edit: As mentioned by BOOSTIO, that DefAge shouldn't be trading with anyone else if he genuinely has connection problems. Unfortunately for us, DefAge is quite an excellent story teller.

 

[BOOSTIO]

I marked here some odd spots, which basically reveals him as a liar. You can find those tiny little details all over the place in all of the screenshots and every text has a slightly different story telling.
He is smart but not smart enought to hide his intentions.

And yea, for sending gold, you don't need the chars IGN AND the highest level. What you need is only the IGN. Nothing else.
This shows that he actually has no glue of the game OR he tries to get more accountinformations from his buyers. Nvm. What ever.
I had a bit hope that he will appear online again on monday, like he promissed. I hope EpicNPC will crack down on this appropriately and take consequences.

The whole situation, I have nothing more to add. Except that it hurts quite a bit to have lost so much money. But well: Was my own stupidity and naivety.

 

[Angel]

@DefAge has been banned

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