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Information
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Purchase Date: May 24, 2021
Date the problem began: May 24, 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: SinisterAF
Your Instant Messenger ID: Saber ✵#9843

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): Approximate value of property: $4000 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? No

What is the dispute about? The person who sold the account for me went missing for 2 months now, he deleted from his discord friends list. I've done business with this guy in the past, and no problems with him in the past, so what initially happened was he sent me the money and when I tried to deposit that money from PayPal to my bank it didn't let me. After that it said that PayPal was going to be holding onto the funds for 6 months, I thought that was very strange of PayPal to do. So I ended up looking on PayPal forums and a lot of people said that they were also put into the same situation and after 6 months PayPal doesn't give you you're funds, they keep it for "damages caused," so I refunded Justin (SinisterAF) the money back and told him what happened, he said he couldn't get the money either because it was on hold for him too. Every month or so I would ask him if the moneys been cleared so he can send me that money through a different method and he said no. Its been about 7 months now overall since this happened and he went missing all of a sudden, I didn't want to believe he would actually scam me and I still cant believe it because I've done business with him in the past. Im not even sure what happened to the funds that I refunded him, but since he hasn't responded to me in about over 2 months now I cant wait any longer.

Other details / notes: Heres the account I had that he sold for me, https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/cor...in-bags-tcg-t3-tons-of-unobtainables.1939530/


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): (I also provided another payment method of $800 he sent me that went through perfectly).
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? No
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Account login/pass, and security answer as well as the email linked to the account.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 
Ban in 24 hrs

@EpicNPC CM please remove the upgrades
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - banned https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.2130044
I’m disputing the fraud accusation due to the case not being fraud. He received the money and had problems with PayPal which he thereafter refunded the money. I also had problems with PayPal and had my account closed. This isn’t fraud, we both lost our money due to PayPal. I tried working with Saber to repay him despite everything and get money in our pockets again. But he is unwilling. I was willing to repay him from a friendship perspective but this was never fraud. This was also done over Discord which apparently doesn’t get dealt with so I’m confused on the policies.
 
Unban should not have been issued.

This dispute was from a year ago for $4000. No contact from SinisterAF for a full year.

The investigation is completed. An unban will only be issued if the victim confirms that the issue is fully resolved. The time to dispute the claim was 12 months ago, not today.

SinisterAF has been rebanned until this is fully resolved and VipProbz confirms.
 
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