noogahz scammed me 1800$

EpicNPC · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9355031" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355031" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355031">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> There was top up service which was a pretty good deal at the time using 3rd party. At the time, did not know the top up user would do chargeback for the $1500 shown. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>But I don't understand the purpose of using a topup service when you already listed the account for sale? The only reason I could see for doing this is to inflate the value of the account.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> First off, 1500 shouldn't go to u, it should go to the owner of the account who has the chargeback issue. Why should it go to u? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>giuliana gave another account to Teabo. Was that account valued at $1500? If yes, then I would like Teabo to confirm that his part in this dispute is resolved.</div>

noogahz · Nov 27, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1387704" data-quote="giuliana" data-source="post: 9355040" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355040" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355040">giuliana said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> becuase i sent it a replac account instead of money , so no fair he keep account and money simple as that </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sounds like a personal problem</div>

noogahz · Nov 27, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9355052" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355052" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355052">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But I don't understand the purpose of using a topup service when you already listed the account for sale? The only reason I could see for doing this is to inflate the value of the account.<br /> <br /> <br /> giuliana gave another account to Teabo. Was that account valued at $1500? If yes, then I would like Teabo to confirm that his part in this dispute is resolved. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, the top up service at the time seemed like a good investment since I had bought from him before. It was a free way to inflate value and get more for the account</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9355052" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355052" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355052">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> But I don't understand the purpose of using a topup service when you already listed the account for sale? The only reason I could see for doing this is to inflate the value of the account.<br /> <br /> <br /> giuliana gave another account to Teabo. Was that account valued at $1500? If yes, then I would like Teabo to confirm that his part in this dispute is resolved. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>is no resolved becuase i sent him account worth of 1600$ usingf my own money and now <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/noogahz.651860/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="651860" data-username="@noogahz">@noogahz</a> have to pay me the 1500 he refunded since he dont have to keep the 1500 since if he no refund the payment i dont have to give to my buyer and new accountr for freee</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">so i need the money he refunded back.</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9355054" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355054" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355054">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Sounds like a personal problem </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>what personal problem literally send him different account becuase you refund what you are talking about?<br /> <br /> <br /> If you had never refunded the account, I should have never sent you a replacement account. o I want my account back or I want the money you refunded</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">This problem was caused by you and you should pay for it and no one else. The replacement account I gave was the value of the refund you made so I need the money back since I was able to sell that account to someone else and to solve a problem that was not my fault that I didn't sell it so I don't see it as fair that I don't get anything back here at least ban this guy if he doesn't give me my money back</div>

EpicNPC · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">Please stop posting until Teabo posts.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/teabo.1189781/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1189781" data-username="@Teabo">@Teabo</a> you received a 2nd account from giuliana that he has valued at $1600. Please confirm you are happy with that solution and your part in this dispute is fully resolved.</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9355070" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355070" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355070">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Please stop posting until Teabo posts.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/teabo.1189781/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1189781" data-username="@Teabo">@Teabo</a> you received a 2nd account from giuliana that he has valued at $1600. Please confirm you are happy with that solution and your part in this dispute is fully resolved. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span class="sc-attachmentImage"><script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1701117474442.png" data-src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6692/6692702-70dca1cbc818b016ede6d027dc6f7ad2.png" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6692/6692702-70dca1cbc818b016ede6d027dc6f7ad2.png" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1701117474442.png" title="1701117474442.png" width="1920" height="1080" /> </div></span><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-167x5-yae-c6-r5-eula-c6-r5-baal-c6-r5-kokomi-c4-and-alot-more.2635620/" target="_blank" class="link link--internal" rel="noopener">https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...5-baal-c6-r5-kokomi-c4-and-alot-more.2635620/</a> link of the acc i gave him value 1600$</div>

Teabo · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">To answer, the money should go to Giuliana due to the fact, they did give me an account in return. Only way I would see the money going to me, is if I return the account gifted to me by Giuliana, which I'm sure she wouldn't mind the money by itself?</div>

Teabo · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">So to answer I'm fine with the money going to Giuliana</div>

noogahz · Nov 27, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper">Since <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/teabo.1189781/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1189781" data-username="@Teabo">@Teabo</a> is fine keeping the account, could I refund Giuliani the 1500 owed via chargeback and also the 1850 for the account?<br /> <br /> Or if teabo gives account back to Giuliani, I refund 1500 to him and then the 1850 to Giuliani?</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9355367" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355367" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355367">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Since <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/teabo.1189781/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1189781" data-username="@Teabo">@Teabo</a> is fine keeping the account, could I refund Giuliani the 1500 owed via chargeback and also the 1850 for the account?<br /> <br /> Or if teabo gives account back to Giuliani, I refund 1500 to him and then the 1850 to Giuliani? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>im no able to open dispute in paypal i want my money back.</div>

giuliana · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9355367" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355367" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355367">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Since <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/teabo.1189781/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1189781" data-username="@Teabo">@Teabo</a> is fine keeping the account, could I refund Giuliani the 1500 owed via chargeback and also the 1850 for the account?<br /> <br /> Or if teabo gives account back to Giuliani, I refund 1500 to him and then the 1850 to Giuliani? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It doesn't make sense what you're saying, if you want me to make a refund on Paypal, but if they return the account, it will be voluntarily refunded. I already had this conversation with you. I don't have the possibility of filing a dispute with Paypal. That was the main reason why I open a dispute here and the admin said that my buyer can keep the account now the problem is between you and me, so either you give me my money back or they ban you as simple as that let him be asking nonsense or just disappear from this website you are too annoying and you repeat the same thing 5 times in a row</div>

Adoxia · Nov 27, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">Wait for the admin to respond.</div>

EpicNPC · Nov 28, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">Teabo confirmed he is happy with the 2nd account he received from giuliana. He also stated multiple times he wants to keep the original account. If that's what he wants to do, then I think it should be his decision. His part in this dispute can be concluded.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> could I refund Giuliani the 1500 owed via chargeback and also the 1850 for the account? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>giuliana paid $1850 to noogahz. noogahz you should refund $1500 of that back to giuliana. <br /> <br /> If you can reach another compromise, that would be okay, but you should keep Teabo out of it.</div>

giuliana · Nov 28, 2023

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EpicNPC · Nov 28, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">Then you will have to discuss alternative with noogahz on how to receive the $1500 payment.</div>

giuliana · Nov 28, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9355998" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355998" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355998">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Then you will have to discuss alternative with noogahz on how to receive the $1500 payment. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> He can send it either as zelle, or to another different paypal i just made it clear that making a dispute on my side is not possible and that is what he probably intends to ask for so he has to use his own money to pay me.</div>

noogahz · Nov 28, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9355959" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355959" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355959">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Teabo confirmed he is happy with the 2nd account he received from giuliana. He also stated multiple times he wants to keep the original account. If that's what he wants to do, then I think it should be his decision. His part in this dispute can be concluded.<br /> <br /> <br /> giuliana paid $1850 to noogahz. noogahz you should refund $1500 of that back to giuliana.<br /> <br /> If you can reach another compromise, that would be okay, but you should keep Teabo out of it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Okay thanks for clarifying. What if there are more issues with top up service? There should be more charges ... Will that be Giuliani's issue since both buyers are refusing the full refund? I cannot guarantee if there won't be anymore issues, hence the offer of offering full refund for giuliani and also teabo?<br /> <br /> So just need to refund the 1500 to Giuliani right? Even if there are more issues or?</div>

noogahz · Nov 28, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1387704" data-quote="giuliana" data-source="post: 9355961" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355961" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355961">giuliana said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The paypal where i paid to him is closed, since the person who helped me make the payment was a friend, and he deleted his paypal and created a new one since I didn't think that a user with 100+ reviews would scam me so it didn't bother me in telling him not to delete paypal, even so when I told him on discord he said I was an idiot because I can't get my money back and proceeds to block so i said in advance a paypal dispute is not possible on my side and I need him to pay with his own money for what he has scammed me, otherwise I will just wait for everyone to ban him.<br /> <br /> Here is the proof of what he told me when I said I couldn't make a Paypal dispute.<br /> <br /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Can she not provide proof on why she can't do PayPal dispute? Can't she do the dispute after I refund the 1500 to her due to top up issue? She offered PayPal g&s but doesn't show she actually can't do dispute on this charge. Just making sure as she initially stated she can't but doesn't provide proof on why she can't besides just saying she cant</div>

giuliana · Nov 28, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9356433" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9356433" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9356433">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Can she not provide proof on why she can't do PayPal dispute? Can't she do the dispute after I refund the 1500 to her due to top up issue? She offered PayPal g&s but doesn't show she actually can't do dispute on this charge. Just making sure as she initially stated she can't but doesn't provide proof on why she can't besides just saying she cant </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It seems like you want to continue wasting your time. If I had the option to file a dispute, do you think I would be bothering to demand that you return my money? I am totally aware that you are a scammer and that you are trying to prolong this dispute, first the Paypal where I paid is not mine, it belongs to a friend and he closed his Paypal account and opened a new one for that reason it cannot be done a paypal dispute<br /> <br /> <br /> Even so, I will wait for epicnpc to pressure you by telling you that you must refund the money even though they already told you above so please do not respond again, this is stupid if it is not to return my money</div>

giuliana · Nov 28, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9356433" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9356433" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9356433">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Can she not provide proof on why she can't do PayPal dispute? Can't she do the dispute after I refund the 1500 to her due to top up issue? She offered PayPal g&s but doesn't show she actually can't do dispute on this charge. Just making sure as she initially stated she can't but doesn't provide proof on why she can't besides just saying she cant </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Just as you are asking for proof of my paypal you should provide proof of who you bought the "alleged top up" from which I am 100% convinced that it is fake lmao<br /> <br /> <br /> since it is quite suspicious that you have not bothered to even dispute the scam they made against you lol</div>

EpicNPC · Nov 29, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1387704" data-quote="giuliana" data-source="post: 9355961" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9355961" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9355961">giuliana said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The paypal where i paid to him is closed, since the person who helped me make the payment was a friend, and he deleted his paypal and created a new one </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9356433" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9356433" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9356433">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Can she not provide proof on why she can't do PayPal dispute? Can't she do the dispute after I refund the 1500 to her due to top up issue? She offered PayPal g&s but doesn't show she actually can't do dispute on this charge. Just making sure as she initially stated she can't but doesn't provide proof on why she can't besides just saying she cant </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> noogahz, wouldn't you be able to confirm this information on your own by contacting Paypal about it? You can say you're trying to issue a partial refund, but are receiving an error. Ask them to check if that Paypal account was disabled or terminated. <br /> <br /> I'm not sure how you want me to prove this. Paypal does not provide information to 3rd parties.</div>

giuliana · Nov 29, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9357248" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9357248" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9357248">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> noogahz, wouldn't you be able to confirm this information on your own by contacting Paypal about it? You can say you're trying to issue a partial refund, but are receiving an error. Ask them to check if that Paypal account was disabled or terminated.<br /> <br /> I'm not sure how you want me to prove this. Paypal does not provide information to 3rd parties. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><span class="sc-attachmentImage"><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1701272725409.png" data-src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6699/6699955-82e2c92f67db7fae98fc3257dd798c27.png" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6699/6699955-82e2c92f67db7fae98fc3257dd798c27.png" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1701272725409.png" title="1701272725409.png" width="2225" height="1097" /> </div></span><br /> <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.epicnpc.com/members/epicnpc.86871/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="86871" data-username="@EpicNPC">@EpicNPC</a></div>

EpicNPC · Nov 29, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">I can't confirm that's the same account use used with noogahz, so it's not enough because it does not show any name or email. However noogahz should be able to confirm this on his own.</div>

giuliana · Nov 29, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9357264" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9357264" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9357264">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I can't confirm that's the same account use used with noogahz, so it's not enough because it does not show any name or email. However noogahz should be able to confirm this on his own. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Well I think it's pretty obvious that this person is just wasting both of our time. Plus I don't think Paypal gives him information about an account that doesn't belong to him either and honestly, like I said above, I wouldn't be making a dispute against him if he could refund my money. money whenever I have been scammed I make a dispute but this is not the case so I would like a timeline or something, i literally doubled this person's reputation and already provide all the necessary evidence that he was the one who refund the honkai star rail account asking for more information is just prolonging this dispute<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> As simple as that, if he suspects that I may make a dispute in the future, can he come and open a dispute against me like I am doing it or not?</div>

noogahz · Nov 30, 2023

Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/noogahz-scammed-me-1800.2668834

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1387704" data-quote="giuliana" data-source="post: 9357268" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9357268" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9357268">giuliana said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well I think it's pretty obvious that this person is just wasting both of our time. Plus I don't think Paypal gives him information about an account that doesn't belong to him either and honestly, like I said above, I wouldn't be making a dispute against him if he could refund my money. money whenever I have been scammed I make a dispute but this is not the case so I would like a timeline or something, i literally doubled this person's reputation and already provide all the necessary evidence that he was the one who refund the honkai star rail account asking for more information is just prolonging this dispute<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> As simple as that, if he suspects that I may make a dispute in the future, can he come and open a dispute against me like I am doing it or not? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sorry you see it that way, I wanted to just double check regarding your claims but I guess you're right. If you could dispute the charge, you would have done so already -- taking back the full 1850 amount for a 1500 top up issue.<br /> <br /> What do you mean you doubled this person's reputation? Not sure what you mean by that but there is proof that there is top up issue, and resolution with the owner of the account has been settled. However, you provided an account "worth 1500-1600" and owner of account was satisfied with the resolution. Can I provide you an account in genshin or other game that's worth that much to resolve with you? You'll probably say no, which is confusing to me since you usually buy accounts cheaper and could list the price higher?<br /> <br /> I don't understand why you keep saying you lost money. You actually gained profit by reselling the account I sold you and provided another account "valued" for 1500-1600 to owner who's satisfied with it. Are you able to prove you lost money on this account by providing the transaction you probably bought this account for? E.g. - you buy the account from someone for 1000, and then inflate value claiming it's 1500-1600. Not arguing I don't owe you the 1500 value but could I not also provide you an account with similar value? Doesn't really seem fair I'm basically buying that account you provided for $1500 when it's a thread you posted for that amount (but it hasn't been sold, you just offered an extra account supposedly worth that value).<br /> <br /> Before you start being super toxic, I owe you 1500 value but I'd appreciate it if you could work with me on this.<br /> <br /> Are you requesting the full $1500 right away? Can I do payments or accounts totaling that amount? What's your payment info if so?<br /> <br /> Also you didn't answer my question regarding if there are further top up issues on that account since I cannot guarantee if there won't be anymore. I offered full refund (1850 + 1500) just in case but you're against it since you don't want to lose your profit on the resale.<br /> <br /> Edit* - 2 typos</div>

giuliana · Nov 30, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9360365" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9360365" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9360365">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Sorry you see it that way, I wanted to just double check regarding your claims but I guess you're right. If you could dispute the charge, you would have done so already -- taking back the full 1850 amount for a 1500 top up issue.<br /> <br /> What do you mean you doubled this person's reputation? Not sure what you mean by that but there is proof that there is top up issue, and resolution with the owner of the account has been settled. However, you provided an account "worth 1500-1600" and owner of account was satisfied with the resolution. Can I provide you an account in genshin or other game that's worth that much to resolve with you? You'll probably say no, which is confusing to me since you usually buy accounts cheaper and could list the price higher?<br /> <br /> I don't understand why you keep saying you lost money. You actually gained profit by reselling the account I sold you and provided another account "valued" for 1500-1600 to owner who's satisfied with it. Are you able to prove you lost money on this account by providing the transaction you probably bought this account for? E.g. - you buy the account from someone for 1000, and then inflate value claiming it's 1500-1600. Not arguing I don't owe you the 1500 value but could I not also provide you an account with similar value? Doesn't really seem fair I'm basically buying that account you provided for $1500 when it's a thread you posted for that amount (but it hasn't been sold, you just offered an extra account supposedly worth that value).<br /> <br /> Before you start being super toxic, I owe you 1500 value but I'd appreciate it if you could work with me on this.<br /> <br /> Are you requesting the full $1500 right away? Can I do payments or accounts totaling that amount? What's your payment info if so?<br /> <br /> Also you didn't answer my question regarding if there are further top up issues on that account since I cannot guarantee if there won't be anymore. I offered full refund (1850 + 1500) just in case but you're against it since you don't want to lose your profit on the resale.<br /> <br /> Edit* - 2 typos </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> How am I supposed to be getting money if I had to resolve the problem with my buyer the only thing I want from you, as the admin said, is that you return the $1500 and that would be all you have no right to keep 1500, we already said multiple times that my buyer is satisfied and has no interest in returning the account if that were the case</div>

giuliana · Nov 30, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">even so here the proof of the paypal was closed<br /> <span class="sc-attachmentImage"><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1701394997739.png" data-src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6708/6708013-d95bec14eab12952c40f3b73917d470a.png" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6708/6708013-d95bec14eab12952c40f3b73917d470a.png" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1701394997739.png" title="1701394997739.png" width="1179" height="2556" /> </div></span><br /> <span class="sc-attachmentImage"><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="1701394983788.png" data-src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6708/6708012-d9063ea249e545b9695a4478bd228bf2.png" data-type="image" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1" > <img src="https://epicnpc.b-cdn.net/s3/xf/internal_data/attachments/6708/6708012-d9063ea249e545b9695a4478bd228bf2.png" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="1701394983788.png" title="1701394983788.png" width="1179" height="2556" /> </div></span></div>

EpicNPC · Dec 1, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">The images posted above are accepted to show the Paypal account is closed/deleted.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 651860" data-quote="noogahz" data-source="post: 9360365" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9360365" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9360365">noogahz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Before you start being super toxic, I owe you 1500 value but I'd appreciate it if you could work with me on this.<br /> <br /> Are you requesting the full $1500 right away? Can I do payments or accounts totaling that amount? What's your payment info if so?<br /> <br /> Also you didn't answer my question regarding if there are further top up issues on that account since I cannot guarantee if there won't be anymore. I offered full refund (1850 + 1500) just in case but you're against it since you don't want to lose your profit on the resale. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You guys can work on a solution. The warning will remain on noogahz's account until it's fully resolved.</div>

giuliana · Dec 1, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9361604" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9361604" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9361604">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The images posted above are accepted to show the Paypal account is closed/deleted.<br /> <br /> <br /> You guys can work on a solution. The warning will remain on noogahz's account until it's fully resolved. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>The only valid solution I see here is for him to return the 1500, I don't have to discuss anything else with him besides receiving the money, even though this dispute has me tired, I would like a timeline for this person to pay or be banned instead</div>

giuliana · Dec 3, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">can i get any udapte of that dispute?</div>

EpicNPC · Dec 4, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">I'm was waiting for an update from you guys.<br /> <br /> Did noogahz stop communicating with you? Did you come up with an agreement on how the payment was going to be made?</div>

giuliana · Dec 4, 2023

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EpicNPC · Dec 4, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">He hasn't been online for a few days, but based on his last few replies it seems like he wants to resolve the issue.<br /> <br /> I'll set a deadline for Friday, Dec 8th. By then you and noogahz must have an agreed upon solution for how the payment will be made. We can then set a new deadline if needed. If there's no response from noogahz by Friday, we'll assume he does not plan to make the payment and his account will be banned.</div>

giuliana · Dec 9, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86871" data-quote="EpicNPC" data-source="post: 9368074" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=9368074" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-9368074">EpicNPC said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> He hasn't been online for a few days, but based on his last few replies it seems like he wants to resolve the issue.<br /> <br /> I'll set a deadline for Friday, Dec 8th. By then you and noogahz must have an agreed upon solution for how the payment will be made. We can then set a new deadline if needed. If there's no response from noogahz by Friday, we'll assume he does not plan to make the payment and his account will be banned. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink bbCodeBlock-collapseLink js-collapseLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to collapse...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>can you ban him please?</div>

EpicNPC · Dec 9, 2023

<div class="bbWrapper">He's been banned.</div>

noogahz scammed me 1800$

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