- Dispute Against
- Draver31
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Information
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Purchase Date: 05/6/2022 1:42am
Date the problem began: 05/6/2022 1:50am
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC and discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Draver31 and Draver31#5400
Your Instant Messenger ID:
Other information:
He gave me his I presume real name and number. This is for extra proof for the transaction account username.
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): It started through dm on the website but was given extremely believable info. Just like in HolyDemon's Post (Click link for his)
Approximate value of property: $170.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
What is the dispute about?
Okay So I was looking for gacha game accounts(Ahem.... On nutaku so hentai I'm horny stfu) and I found one that seemed pretty good. Pretty sure it was This (Click For link). I then receive a message stating, "hello! for $200 I could get you a very high-end tier game account discord Draver31#5400" Obviously I was going to take him up on his offer to see what he was going to sell. After I added him I went straight down to the nitty-gritty to see what account he had to sell. I then decide to look into his EpicNPC account to verify that he is good but I notice some people stating that he is a scammer. I obviously bring this up and he confidently denies all accusations along with sending me a LINK(Link) with him proving that the accusations were false and people don't like him. After seeing that thread I pretty much believed him because I mean.. Look at it. He is innocent in THAT thread. After agreeing with him on that guy being delusional I Still wasn't gonna take any chances and asked if he was cool with the Epic middle man. He agreed. He asks what I'm looking for budget etc... and tells me he is going to finish a deal real quick. Right after he says the middle man expense will be on me. To me, I'm thinking cool this guy is legit. I ask him what you guys charge he said around 10% of the purchase and 5 bucks. I didn't want to spend 25 on a middle man so I gave it a thought. During that time of thinking, we start up small talk about how you guys are probably raking in cash and gacha game greed and stuff. After that little chat, he links me to his Steam(Link) telling me all about how on steam he's an experienced middle man. I take a look and see that his discord adds up and how there are a lot of people out there impersonating him and all this "I care for your wellbeing" type of vibe. So obviously I loosened up and thought I'll be good on saving $25 this guy is a pro at this stuff. I start complimenting and asking about it I tell him I'm gonna take a look at this person offering me something. He says to be careful and make sure he is legit(Another thing that just makes him seem that much more trustable). Finally, He shows me his offer and it's oddly similar to another that's on your website same reason as to why it's being sold just with way fewer screenshots. I show him and he even asks for the link to take it down. I then see like 30 screenshots of the account and its looking really juicy. After talking to him about a few little things like changing the email over and stuff. I bring up ill just do it through Paypal and goof around cause its a hentai account obviously and tell him why I'm buying it. After that moment We just started casually talking about anime for an hour and just going on tangents and really clicking. The guy was actually funny. I then haggle the price down to $170 and he offers to change from Paypal to Revolut so I don't have to pay any extra fees. I agree and start making the account. My account creation was a long process for some reason so it took a solid 3 hours to make it. So throughout all that we were talking about other things yet again. Finally, after its made, I tell him I'm tired af and my card got accepted. He was like Just put it through now since imma be busy tmr. I say "And I also don't want to pay you go to sleep and then wake up [1:35 AM] And boom i'm robbed lmao" He voices his feelings stating that it would be better to just get it over with and he isn't gonna rob me. I send it over tell him it's done. He gives me account credentials and all but when I go to see if they are legit. Google says it doesn't even exist. I go back to ask what's up and I'm blocked.
Other details / notes:
On HolyDemon's posts' first screenshot. I see mustii post a username that is exactly the same as the one I was told to pay.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
A WHOLE BUNCH OF SCREENSHOTS OF THE ACCOUNT LATER
This was soneone else selling Pretty much the exact same thing. Honestly Draver may have stolen this guys screenshots But Draver had way more than this guy so Scammer vs Scammer?
AFTER THIS SCREENSHOT WE TALKED ABOUT ONE PIECE FOR A HOT MINUTE
After this the card failed because it wasnt verified with the company yet. If you need those ss just ask. Im gonna jump ahead to where it works
Crossed out the passwords just in case if he manages to do somthing with making the accounts exist to combat me saying i just gave up the info is all.
Final screenshot is the google email not existing.
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Please feel free to ask any questions ill try my best to answer them. I can take screenshots of the purchase on my phone as well for a clearer picture as well as speaking to Revolut about the refund. Thank you For your time.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
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Purchase Date: 05/6/2022 1:42am
Date the problem began: 05/6/2022 1:50am
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC and discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Draver31 and Draver31#5400
Your Instant Messenger ID:
DababyAmongus and Entombed#0001
Other information:
He gave me his I presume real name and number. This is for extra proof for the transaction account username.
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): It started through dm on the website but was given extremely believable info. Just like in HolyDemon's Post (Click link for his)
Approximate value of property: $170.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
What is the dispute about?
Okay So I was looking for gacha game accounts(Ahem.... On nutaku so hentai I'm horny stfu) and I found one that seemed pretty good. Pretty sure it was This (Click For link). I then receive a message stating, "hello! for $200 I could get you a very high-end tier game account discord Draver31#5400" Obviously I was going to take him up on his offer to see what he was going to sell. After I added him I went straight down to the nitty-gritty to see what account he had to sell. I then decide to look into his EpicNPC account to verify that he is good but I notice some people stating that he is a scammer. I obviously bring this up and he confidently denies all accusations along with sending me a LINK(Link) with him proving that the accusations were false and people don't like him. After seeing that thread I pretty much believed him because I mean.. Look at it. He is innocent in THAT thread. After agreeing with him on that guy being delusional I Still wasn't gonna take any chances and asked if he was cool with the Epic middle man. He agreed. He asks what I'm looking for budget etc... and tells me he is going to finish a deal real quick. Right after he says the middle man expense will be on me. To me, I'm thinking cool this guy is legit. I ask him what you guys charge he said around 10% of the purchase and 5 bucks. I didn't want to spend 25 on a middle man so I gave it a thought. During that time of thinking, we start up small talk about how you guys are probably raking in cash and gacha game greed and stuff. After that little chat, he links me to his Steam(Link) telling me all about how on steam he's an experienced middle man. I take a look and see that his discord adds up and how there are a lot of people out there impersonating him and all this "I care for your wellbeing" type of vibe. So obviously I loosened up and thought I'll be good on saving $25 this guy is a pro at this stuff. I start complimenting and asking about it I tell him I'm gonna take a look at this person offering me something. He says to be careful and make sure he is legit(Another thing that just makes him seem that much more trustable). Finally, He shows me his offer and it's oddly similar to another that's on your website same reason as to why it's being sold just with way fewer screenshots. I show him and he even asks for the link to take it down. I then see like 30 screenshots of the account and its looking really juicy. After talking to him about a few little things like changing the email over and stuff. I bring up ill just do it through Paypal and goof around cause its a hentai account obviously and tell him why I'm buying it. After that moment We just started casually talking about anime for an hour and just going on tangents and really clicking. The guy was actually funny. I then haggle the price down to $170 and he offers to change from Paypal to Revolut so I don't have to pay any extra fees. I agree and start making the account. My account creation was a long process for some reason so it took a solid 3 hours to make it. So throughout all that we were talking about other things yet again. Finally, after its made, I tell him I'm tired af and my card got accepted. He was like Just put it through now since imma be busy tmr. I say "And I also don't want to pay you go to sleep and then wake up [1:35 AM] And boom i'm robbed lmao" He voices his feelings stating that it would be better to just get it over with and he isn't gonna rob me. I send it over tell him it's done. He gives me account credentials and all but when I go to see if they are legit. Google says it doesn't even exist. I go back to ask what's up and I'm blocked.
Other details / notes:
On HolyDemon's posts' first screenshot. I see mustii post a username that is exactly the same as the one I was told to pay.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
A WHOLE BUNCH OF SCREENSHOTS OF THE ACCOUNT LATER
This was soneone else selling Pretty much the exact same thing. Honestly Draver may have stolen this guys screenshots But Draver had way more than this guy so Scammer vs Scammer?
AFTER THIS SCREENSHOT WE TALKED ABOUT ONE PIECE FOR A HOT MINUTE
After this the card failed because it wasnt verified with the company yet. If you need those ss just ask. Im gonna jump ahead to where it works
Crossed out the passwords just in case if he manages to do somthing with making the accounts exist to combat me saying i just gave up the info is all.
Final screenshot is the google email not existing.
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Please feel free to ask any questions ill try my best to answer them. I can take screenshots of the purchase on my phone as well for a clearer picture as well as speaking to Revolut about the refund. Thank you For your time.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
