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Quite recently, last night actually, I had an account closed for an unknown reason. I had purchased this account off of a guy, and when I logged on the next day the account had been closed. I hadn't recieved an e-mail from Blizzard, so I was really confused.

After attempting to pull my payment (because I figured he could regain access as he was the OO), and having paypal close the case in favour of the seller, I got pretty angry. As soon as I found out, I contacted the seller and found out the real story:

What really happened is, while trying to sell his account and showing interested buyers, Blizzard had been tracking the varieties of different IP's that had visited his characters WoW Armory page. And once seeing the change in IP's on his account, and the change of personal info they jumped on the case and closed his account. (This information recieved by person from Blizzard support over the phone.)

What to do:
Instead of linking armorys, insist on showing in-game. If the buyer is really interested they will not mind going through the extra trouble for the security of the account.
 
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Quite recently, last night actually, I had an account closed for an unknown reason. I had purchased this account off of a guy, and when I logged on the next day the account had been closed. I hadn't recieved an e-mail from Blizzard, so I was really confused.

After attempting to pull my payment (because I figured he could regain access as he was the OO), and having paypal close the case in favour of the seller, I got pretty angry. As soon as I found out, I contacted the seller and found out the real story:

What really happened is, while trying to sell his account and showing interested buyers, Blizzard had been tracking the varieties of different IP's that had visited his characters WoW Armory page. And once seeing the change in IP's on his account, and the change of personal info they jumped on the case and closed his account. (This information recieved by person from Blizzard support over the phone.)

What to do:
Instead of linking armorys, insist on showing in-game. If the buyer is really interested they will not mind going through the extra trouble for the security of the account.

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Hi, sorry this happened to you, but what that person told you is complete BS.

Blizzard does not match armory IP's with login IP's. Think about this for a second. Blizzard has millions of accounts. Wow armory gets millions of hits per day, do you realize the amount of time it would take to match those ip's, and build enough of a case to justify closing someone's account?

I have no idea why your account got banned, but it had nothing to do with wow armory's or IP matching.
 
K... if you think its completely illogical you should think again. If blizzard notices a large amount of IP's being visited to that armory page, and then suddenly, in the same span of time the contact info and IP on the account changes then they are gonna do something about it. It's called adding 1+1...
 
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K... if you think its completely illogical you should think again. If blizzard notices a large amount of IP's being visited to that armory page, and then suddenly, in the same span of time the contact info and IP on the account changes then they are gonna do something about it. It's called adding 1+1...

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Tell me exactly how they would notice this? Do you think they have a program that monitors IP visits of individual character armories and then matches it with said account?

I don't even think a program that exists, that could do that. Furthermore, do you realize the manpower that would take to manually review these cases? They would have to have a staff of well over 10,000.

Seriously, might be tin foil hat time for you.
 
Are you saying that there is 100% chance that this could never happen? It's just impossible?

If you answered no, it COULD happen, then use the method I advised. Don't risk it and take necessary precautions. Say the account I bought was worth $700. Thats $700 down the drain. Lost forever. It's not worth it in the least to risk it.
 
I myself do doubt this, but yes there are programs that are capable of this sort of situation.

All it takes is simple cause and effect variables --
*How MANY different ips have ACCESSED the webpage within a CERTAIN amount of time.

That's actually a quite simple program; although I STILL doubt that this is the case; and I really DOUBT that a phone rep. would release that info in specifics.
 
You guys serious? I try and help out the public, and after running it by snowy he says he's heard of it before. Anyways, I'm trying to help you guys out and on my public awareness thread i'm being flamed. If you don't believe it, fine don't. I don't really care, I'm just trying to inform those people that would rather not have their multy hundred dollar account banned.
 
Wow its unbelievable how far Blizz goes to catch buyers/traders/sellers. I meen alot of innocent people get banned now and days for nothing, I had a warlock in full tier 5 and Blizzard banned it because I changed the email under the account...I put 3 years and about 1000$ of money into the account and they just put it down the drain..
 
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Wow its unbelievable how far Blizz goes to catch buyers/traders/sellers. I meen alot of innocent people get banned now and days for nothing, I had a warlock in full tier 5 and Blizzard banned it because I changed the email under the account...I put 3 years and about 1000$ of money into the account and they just put it down the drain..

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That is not the reason your account got banned.

Blizzard does not ban accounts based on hearsay or baseless information. Most likely you got banned for selling and or buying gold. Either that or using a 3rd party program.

It is easy to tell why you got banned.

If they mention exploitation of the game economy, it's because you or someone who logged onto your account bought or sold gold.

If they mention use of 3rd party programs, you got banned because you or someone who logged onto your account used wowglider or a cheat.

Post the email blizzard sent you, notifying you of the ban.
 
Consider the following situation:

A player applies to a guild of over 30 members. He recieves multiple hits on his armory in less than a day.

There is no way Blizzard would waste its time or money using ''Armory hits'' to gain suspicion against an account.
 
Blizzard has no case on you if they simply say "your IP trends have changed recently."

Ever heard of dynamic and static ips? Millions of people who use DSL have dynamic ips which change as soon as you reset a modem or the power goes out. It is more likely that blizzard finds out you are trading because you have wow open while you're trading, which means Blizzard's WARDEN is watching you.

Also giving people your armory on the net such as forums is also dangerous, because blizz CAN and does track that stuff.
 
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Blizzard has no case on you if they simply say "your IP trends have changed recently."

Ever heard of dynamic and static ips? Millions of people who use DSL have dynamic ips which change as soon as you reset a modem or the power goes out. It is more likely that blizzard finds out you are trading because you have wow open while you're trading, which means Blizzard's WARDEN is watching you.

Also giving people your armory on the net such as forums is also dangerous, because blizz CAN and does track that stuff.

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I get your IP example. But what about a sudden change in IP aswell as contact info? Just a coincidence I guess?
 
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Sounds to me like he fed you a pile of [censored] and you dug in like you hadn't eaten in weeks. Sorry my friend but you got took

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Lol k. It clearly said the account was banned when I went to log in, and I got my money back so GG.
 
Ive heard of alot of things Blizzard does to ban accounts. For instance if an email address is used on one account and then you buy another and put it under the same email they will flag. Once the IP change happens they could ban. Pretty logical if you think about their policy.
 
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Quite recently, last night actually, I had an account closed for an unknown reason. I had purchased this account off of a guy, and when I logged on the next day the account had been closed. I hadn't recieved an e-mail from Blizzard, so I was really confused.

After attempting to pull my payment (because I figured he could regain access as he was the OO), and having paypal close the case in favour of the seller, I got pretty angry. As soon as I found out, I contacted the seller and found out the real story:

What really happened is, while trying to sell his account and showing interested buyers, Blizzard had been tracking the varieties of different IP's that had visited his characters WoW Armory page. And once seeing the change in IP's on his account, and the change of personal info they jumped on the case and closed his account. (This information recieved by person from Blizzard support over the phone.)

What to do:
Instead of linking armorys, insist on showing in-game. If the buyer is really interested they will not mind going through the extra trouble for the security of the account.

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Hi, sorry this happened to you, but what that person told you is complete BS.

Blizzard does not match armory IP's with login IP's. Think about this for a second. Blizzard has millions of accounts. Wow armory gets millions of hits per day, do you realize the amount of time it would take to match those ip's, and build enough of a case to justify closing someone's account?

I have no idea why your account got banned, but it had nothing to do with wow armory's or IP matching.

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Well, take a look at the fact blizzard can ban your account for any reason or no reason - read the EULA and ToS and its interesting. So does it matter what the person said? if its BS then what ever; blizzard can ban your account (which isnt your account its blizzards account / chars) because your first name started with an "A" if they wanted to. They dont need reason.
 
Contact info change = possible ban.
Foreign IP or several foreign IPs log on to an account = possible ban.
Many armory hits = no way in hell would you be getting a ban for armory hits.
 
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Contact info change = possible ban.
Foreign IP or several foreign IPs log on to an account = possible ban.
Many armory hits = no way in hell would you be getting a ban for armory hits.

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Could still add to their evidence. I'm not saying they would ban just from a bunch of armory hits alone.
 
Banned
I got an AIM yesterday from some guy named Blizzard040694. It was the weirdest thing, I was expecting him to say now give me your account/password so I can verify you are the owner, some crap like that but he didn't.

[18:58] Blizzard040694: Hello "Godawgs226", i'm an Admin of the game World Of Warcraft. Their are many undercover Blizzard Staff, that search through the most popular trading / buying forums. This is aginst our terms of use, which you accepted to when you created the account. I'm giving you a warning; I dont want to see your IP adress on any more posts made after your post on Markeedragon.com (12/16/07 12:19 PM est). Thank you, if you need any further information. please viset (Link: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/)www.worldofwarcraft.com(Link: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/).
[18:59] godawgs266: :-D
[18:59] godawgs266: am i supposed to give you my user name/ password? /u/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
[19:00] Blizzard040694: No, I'm just letting you know that if we catch you posting about trade or buy/sell for your worldofwarcraft account your account will be permanatly banned.
[19:01] godawgs266: How come a GM of WoW doesn't use proper grammar and spelling?
[19:02] Blizzard040694: "Godawgs226" As an Admin I do not need to further explane to you about your warning.
[19:03] godawgs266: hahah
[19:03] godawgs266: ban me then
[19:04] Blizzard040694: I cannot just bann you..
[19:04] godawgs266: what the hell is this, you aren't even trying to scam me.
[19:04] Blizzard040694: Have a good day, and take your warning to mind...
[19:05] godawgs266: lol
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-michel-munoz-fapjacks01-gmail-com.1566209/
k that was just a retard with too much time on his hands blizzard isnt gonna be hunting down people that sell accounts as long as they get ur 15 bux a month there happy.
 
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k that was just a retard with too much time on his hands blizzard isnt gonna be hunting down people that sell accounts as long as they get ur 15 bux a month there happy.

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yea i mean.. why should they care? as long as they get their money.. shouldn't matter.... besides the lost of sales from the keys... but i dont really get it...
 
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k that was just a retard with too much time on his hands blizzard isnt gonna be hunting down people that sell accounts as long as they get ur 15 bux a month there happy.

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yea i mean.. why should they care? as long as they get their money.. shouldn't matter.... besides the lost of sales from the keys... but i dont really get it...

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Yup but theydo
 
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k that was just a retard with too much time on his hands blizzard isnt gonna be hunting down people that sell accounts as long as they get ur 15 bux a month there happy.

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yea i mean.. why should they care? as long as they get their money.. shouldn't matter.... besides the lost of sales from the keys... but i dont really get it...

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Because Blizzard truly cares about the integrity of the game.
 
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Contact info change = possible ban.
Foreign IP or several foreign IPs log on to an account = possible ban.
Many armory hits = no way in hell would you be getting a ban for armory hits.

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Could still add to their evidence. I'm not saying they would ban just from a bunch of armory hits alone.

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I guarantee you that armory hits would not be looked into at all.

Flags don't even pop up when you change the info on an account numerous times. Why in the world would armory hits matter?
 
I really doubt this too.

And to the creator of this post - You're posting in a community with tones of opinionated people, stop being so stuck-up and learn to take peoples opinions. You can't say "Are you kidding me, how is this stupid" and what not; these are our opinions, stop taking it so personally.

Cheers.
 
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k that was just a retard with too much time on his hands blizzard isnt gonna be hunting down people that sell accounts as long as they get ur 15 bux a month there happy.

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yea i mean.. why should they care? as long as they get their money.. shouldn't matter.... besides the lost of sales from the keys... but i dont really get it...

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Because Blizzard truly cares about the integrity of the game.

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its actually less of the integrity of the game, and MORE of their responsibilty.
If they allowed trading and people got ripped off people would contact them about it regularly and they would be held responsible EVEN if they said trade at your own risk. I mean come on people got money from McDonalds for spilling coffee on themselves because it didnt say on the cup, contents hot, someone was able to sue because they ran with a scissors adn stabbed themselves, BECAUSE the scissors didnt say DO NOT RUN WITH...
welcome to america
 
Completely agree with you on why Blizzard can't allow trading. However, can't agree with you on the McDonalds lawsuit, or lawsuits in general in America. I understand that there are a ton of lawsuits in the US, but many courts are reasonable, and they will not listen to cases that are just plain ridiculous. You get your exceptions here and there, but really, many decisions make sense. The McDonalds one you named is a good example; the person received THIRD DEGREE burns from the coffee and had to get skin grafts over 6% of her body! The coffee was heated significantly above what is considered safe, it was ridiculously dangerous.
 
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Completely agree with you on why Blizzard can't allow trading. However, can't agree with you on the McDonalds lawsuit, or lawsuits in general in America. I understand that there are a ton of lawsuits in the US, but many courts are reasonable, and they will not listen to cases that are just plain ridiculous. You get your exceptions here and there, but really, many decisions make sense. The McDonalds one you named is a good example; the person received THIRD DEGREE burns from the coffee and had to get skin grafts over 6% of her body! The coffee was heated significantly above what is considered safe, it was ridiculously dangerous.

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The person did not sue McDonalds for overheating the coffee, she sued McDonalds for not telling her the coffee will be hot. That's a whole different kind of stupidity.

My 2 cents on the whole Blizzard banned my account subject -
Armory hits have 100% NOTHING to do with it. However...

Blizzard does occasionally close accounts if several changes are made rapidly to the contact information and IP. Rapidly is the keyword.

Blizzard also closes accounts if the account is recalled a certain amount of times in a short period.

Blizzard also closes accounts if anyone claiming to be the OO asks for it. (this is more likely the case, the guy might have been trying to scam you and failed)

Blizzard does not have to give a reason to close/ban an account because in the EULA they state that the account is never yours to begin with, it's theirs.

What I think happened is that someone tried to recall your account and screwed up, and it was closed.
 
I imagine what really happened is that the seller changed the account info again after he sold it to you. Reasons why this is the most logical explaination:

1. You did not recieve an email. This is because he changed the email address.

2. Changing the account info so quickly (1 day) after it had already been changed flagged the account. Billing investigated it and found different IPs on the account which coincided with the account information changes. Action was taken to close the account.

3. The story he gave you doesn't make sense. Not only, as others have pointed out, is it statistically impossible for them to investigate this way, but they would never reveal it to someone who they suspect of selling an account. I've been unfortunate to get an account banned before, and the reason for closure is always intentionally cryptic. They would never reveal that much information to him.
 
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