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After keeping up with the Thread in the scammers section I feel that John was not able to get full words in. I personally think there is a LOT of grey area on this site and a lot of the decisions that are made aren't always the best. I don't think what happened in this case is 100% fair at all. What is everyone else's thoughts?
Hey Guys,
This is John Fitch, aka Toon Vendor, from EpicNPC, which was formerly known as Markee Dragon. As a lot of you may know, I have been temporarily banned from EpicNPC due to a recent thread created by a Ryan *****. I know a lot of you have been concerned about my ban, and I'm here to present my side of the story, and hopefully after reading this thread, you will understand where I'm coming from, and why I shouldn't have been temp banned from the EpicNPC forums. I wish I could have presented something like this in my “trial” where many members essentially threw stones at me, many of whom I’ve never talked with, but unlike a lot of users who are given weeks to present their side, I was only given 24 hours before I was banned. This short period of time is a slap in the face given how many years I’ve spent building my reputation in this community. Hopefully by the end of this thread, you will understand where I am coming from, and agree that I do not deserve the harsh punishment I had cast upon me.
Lets start things off by taking a look at the thread created by Ryan *****. Ryan was an interesting client of mine over the past few weeks, very impulsive and very easy to change his mind. He initially came to me asking me for help recovering a scarab lord warrior he owned with full tier 3 and ashbringer that was scammed from him. I know what you're thinking OMG that warrior sounds so amazing, and so was I. That’s why I agreed to make an exception in my usual policy, and chose to help him get it back from the original owner who recalled it despite it not coming through me.
In order to recover it, I had to get a fake ID made. So we tried to recover it, sadly the warrior had been gone for two years and after many forms we couldn't get it back. Though I explained to Ryan before hand that I couldn't guarantee I could get it back, but that I would try my best and he knows that I did. We decided to use most of the money that he had paid me to try to get it back and apply it to his store credit. The entire decision to help Ryan was a favor, as it was something I only do for clients and he wasn’t one. On top of that, the money he paid for my hours of work trying to get his account back was given to him as store credit, meaning I slaved hours over forms and phone calls with Blizzard for free. Ryan was very unappreciative, and used this against me in his smear campaign.
Eventually Ryan settled on a $3,000 warlock, and I let him start playing it early even though my payment plan policy states that you must pay 30% off before obtaining login information for an account. I honestly believed he was financially stable enough, and let him on early with only $400 paid off, of the $900 which was typically required. Ryan came to me a few days later and said that his wife was pregnant, and that he could no longer afford the account. I admit I was initially upset as I've heard pretty much every excuse in the book when you start loaning people money. So I explained to him that because he paid that money as a deposit he wouldn't be getting it back, needless to say Ryan was outraged. I had already changed the account information as a lot of people do try to something reckless (such as deleting items etc.) when they're upset with me on my policy.
I told Ryan to calm down, and that we'd discuss the account more saturday. I also told him I would hold the warlock for him for nearly 30 days, and he would have that time to get at least $900 to me and then I would release login information to him. Ryan was VERY upset. Ryan was constantly blowing up my phone all night when I was trying to sleep, and then I received word from Sky, the new moderator, that he made a very interesting thread, the one that got me banned.
This thread was like noother I've dealt with before. Ryan had made it with the soul purpose to ruining my name as much as possible. He knew with the leverage this thread could provide against me, a very public WoW account seller, he could get me to give him the login information for the account he couldn't afford. So as any person who would want to protect his name, I gave in and gave him the account information pretty much right away. I wasn't happy about giving in, but in order to protect my name I pretended like we could just move on. Ryan was fine with this, and requested many times before the scammer thread was approved by EpicNPC administration that it be deleted and never viewed by anyone. Sadly I wish the story ended here, but it doesn't.
Despite Ryan never wanting the thread to be viewed by anyone, Mike (aka the admin of EpicNPC) made the sole decision to publish Ryan's lies. Ryan's thread was incredibly one-sided, and heavily edited to make me look like I was taking advantage of him. I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't a little impressed with how good of a writer Ryan is. He played the victim card like a pro, and honestly in my nearly six years of doing this, I've never seen anyone do it so well. It was clear to me that anyone who didn't really know me, would easily take his side. From the thread title itself, you could see that it had a pretty clear agenda. I'd like to state again, this thread should have never been published. Not even the original poster wanted it up, it was only made for him to use as extortion.
Mike, the MMOBay administrator, had made it clear before he didn't want me helping anyone with fake ID's anymore. I had stopped helping most people with them, but I'll be honest I still helped my clients with issues that did require them. I really didn't take his warning as seriously as I should have, and now I'm paying the price. One thing that I don't find fair is the fact that every other professional seller has used them at one time or another, and none of them are heeding any consequences. Just because they've never run into a person like Ryan who was smart enough to pull something like this, they are able to continue doing what they do. In fact if you look on page 3, Shane from Khaccounts.net attempts to throw me under the bus saying that I dug my own hole with this, but just a day earlier he was asking me for help with Fake ID's. You can clearly see the hypocrisy going on at EpicNPC from professional sellers, and anyone who replied in that thread was merely attempting to get rid of competition. Anyhow moving on.
I'm not here to justify what I did was right, that's for you to decide. So yes, I did help people recover accounts that were wrongfully stolen from them by using Fake ID's, and I've signed the original owner's name on documents, I've also called into blizzard pretending to be the original owner at least over 200 times. Here's my issue, at least 2/3's of EpicNPC has at one point or another done 1/3 of those things, which could all be placed under common identity theft. The same degree in which I was temp banned for. In fact the entire act of buying or selling a wow account is a legal grey area, however this forum still goes on.
I want to end things by stating that just because something is legal or illegal, doesn't mean that it’s morally right or wrong. Everything I did with those ID's, ultimately was to help people. People who were scammed wrongfully by others, people who ultimately deserved the account. I hope you now understand where I'm coming from on this situation, and that the scammer thread that was made was never supposed to be seen by anyone's eyes. That it was all just a smear campaign, used to extort login information for an account someone couldn’t pay for, but he still wanted to play. A kid who wanted his candy, he cried for it. Its sad that his cries were heard all too well, which ended in a member of nearly six years being banned. When scammers are given days, sometimes weeks to answer, I was only given mere hours.
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I might as well add this, since I have been banned, Ryan was smart enough to know that he wouldn't be playing the warlock much longer, since he no longer had any leverage over me, he quickly deleted all of the characters on the $3,000 account to spite me. Though rest assured knowing that your EpicNPC administration has deemed someone like Ryan ***** worthy of being a negative-feedback free user, free to transact with you other legit members on EpicNPC who have slaved years over your flawless reputation as I had. Whereas a six year veteran of the wow account buying and selling community, whose never had one unresolved issue, has been deemed by Mike alone, not “legal” enough, for the legally grey website, known as EpicNPC.
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