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Theprof aka strongkid2258 aka Charlie Nimke aka [email protected] SCAMMER

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Date that scamming took place: decemeber 5th - present
Method of Contact Used: aim
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: strongkid2258
Your Instant Messenger ID: asx (asxgamer)
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: Theprof
Other information: he contacted me via aim after i posted a message i was looknig to buy an account, he however did not post in my thread, however i didnt check first because he sent the aim on my droid phone.


Scam Information
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What was scammed?: an account
Link of trade thread: i did post a thread WTB, but he didnt post there or talk about anything in there related to an account.
Approximate value of scammed property: 206 paypal + cata key + realm change
276$ USD

Was a middleman used?: no
If yes, who?: no one
Describe how you were scammed: He contacted me via aim. i then talked with him and several other people, i was also talking to abyssrune of this website about a shaman i belive. he first offer it to me for 200$ however abyss's account was cheaper and comparable. abyss then got an offer raising his account price. then strongkid2258 said that he got an offer and raised it to 260. i still wanted to by but right before i was going to for the 250-260, another person im'd me i think it was abyssrune with another offer. i then told strongkid2258 that i had a better offer. he told me that his second person jsut backed out as well and lowered the price back down to roughly 200, i think it was 198 or something. with fees 206 and change. i then sent payment, and he got it. he then sent me the account and password and secret question / answer. i remeber this clearly cause somehow on aim express it would show information and he was forced to email it to me. everything was legit and checked out all information was correct, well decemeber 17th (yesterday) sometime at night, because i played all morning. the account was reclaimed. i've tried to get into contact with him several times prior because he said he'd get me CD keys. he said he was not the OO but BEASTMODE a moderator of this site was, and he could garuntee it wouldnt get reclaimed. ive tried to find him on aim but im pretty sure im blocked since the trade date i havent seen him on in close to over a week. i also posted an itrade thingy stating it was care free, and sent him several ims since then because he never respoded to my trade thing and gave em rep back which i wanted so i could begin to maybe sell gold and do more trades. however he never did after 2 pms to him on the forums.
Other details / notes:
account was for a level 80 blood elf female paladin on US-blackrock -Horde named Plzdaddyno. no cata enabled. i then xferd the pally and renamed it as well (i first made a level 1 with its name on that server so i would get a free one) i moved it to caelestraz-H and named it Bubbletea (with the ****y ascii B) i have screen shots of it have been logged in and not being me so i know for a fact someone else is on it.

Proof
Proof You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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Chat Logs: Use
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Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Other proof:
i have a few screen shots but the rules said i must edit out names and personal information, heres screen shots edited, i have them as well un edited i can post or send to a mod or whatever if i need to, infact id be more than happy to.

[IMG]http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss39/StackzGaming/SCAM%20mmobay/paypal2.jpg
screen shot of the payment.
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the email he sent me

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logged into my other account, the account was logged in less than an hour before i got home from work and logged on to see if the character had been moved or not. as you can see i have other screens to and sections to show proof of date.
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showing that the information he gave me no longer works to try to reclaim the recalled account.
i also tried it with the information i changed it to.


Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes / No
YES, he had some rep, and additionally he is listed (under his forum name) as trust who verified. the email he sent me matched up with his paypal information.
Have you traded with this person before?: Yes / No
no
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?:
that was my first as stated in my thread that i posted WTB, and in my comment i posted on his itrade thingy.

i rather have the account than the money, i leveld it from 80 to 85, have gear it quite nicely with 3-4 359 epics already, raised engineering to max from like 350 and had jc with 2 recipes almost at max as well. i had farmed several more achieves. prob close to another 350 achieve points. i had also raised fishing from 1 to max and farmed the sea turtle mount! i also spent prob close to 60k gold buying vanity, like companion pets and new mounts. i also had farm a large portion of rep with scryers, ogrila, shatter sun sporregar, hyjal ect. and found and bought lots of tabards.
if not id like the money back hopefully with the expenses paid as well server change and cata key. i'd even take something even if less in value if it fits my needs. unfortunately the first part of our convo was on my phone, and the second part of my convo was with aim express, so i dont have the convo saved. i do however have proof of payment ect. also my dates coordiante with the day i left him feedback. hes been ignoring me as if trying to not show a link between him and me doing buisness.
also if you check his trust who stuff, his forum title and his signature dont linkto anything!
i will try to contact beast mode via aim hes not online atm.

---------- Post added 12-18-2010 at 09:37 AM ----------

Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes / No
YES, he had some rep, and additionally he is listed (under his forum name) as trust who verified. the email he sent me matched up with his paypal information. he additonally named dropped that it was a moderators account. additionally under beast's itrade, it does show that theprof bought a paladin account from him from his feedback message jsut a few days prior.
added more info.
 
In the email screenshot, whey did you block out his email address?

Also, is this the sale URL? http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-auctions-buy-sell/406390-shopping-around-200-250$.html
Why did you say he didn't post in it when he did?

the email address theprof is registered on is [email protected], not [email protected] which you used for Paypal.

Can you post a screenshot of the chat logs?

theprof has been notified.
 
i wasnt sure what i could and couldnt display as personal information, as i posted above, that i blocked everything out and would report uneditied version upon anyones request. it states i have to block out names, and since i thought his email adderess was his name, would in fact show his name violating your policy, i blocked out the email adderess as well. also i dont think i can see if his forum email matches his other emails. maybe you can but then again you have admin property i dont. when i check his profiles it doesnt show this information. all i know is he didnt send the information from one account and ask me to send to a different one, the paypal address he asked me to send money too, and the email he sent the account information was the same, which is what i meant.

the email he sent me matched up with his paypal
is my exact words, i never said his registered email on the forums was the same to his paypal account which seems to be what you thought i said.

yes you're right he did post, for some reason i thought he did, infact you are right, he origianlly didnt post, i was on my phone and had asked him if he did, he said no but he could, then he posted and responded back to me. i didnt post the original thread because as i said, i didn't think he responded to the thread before contacting me, which is infact true, he didnt respond until after i asked him too, please be reminded that this was almost 2 weeks ago my memory might not remember every little detail. however you found the post and that should jsut infact be more proof of this.

for all i know this could be some random mix up, which i hope it is, however since he had access and said he got it directly from Beastmode (who is online right now in aim but doesnt seem to be responding)
who is a trusted forum mod was OO so im not sure what to make of this

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---------- Post added 12-18-2010 at 12:26 PM ----------

im not sure why that double posted must of hit the shotrcut twice sorry, the above is the same picture twice, i reread my post and missed the edit time. sorry.
 
Banned - Scammer - Associated with Eu.dreamer - Possiby Eu.dreamer using Premium-MMO's account - VPN/proxy
For clarification I am not the OO. I never stated I was either. I actually offered a full money back gaurantee on the account to "Theprof" when I sold the account as long as he didnt trade and/or re-sell the account. He did so I can not offer that help anymore. When an account gets traded I view them no longer safe in my book. You never know how many times it has been traded and how many people actually have the information to the account. I've been around long enough to know.
 
Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/407740-theprof-aka-strongkid2258-aka-charlie-nimke-aka-charlienimke%40gmail-com-scammer-2.html
hahahah I dont believe this ****......account I just got, also got recalled....


Im trying to contact asxgamer.
 
we are talking, lowly but we are talknig hopefully we can come to some middle ground.

---------- Post added 12-18-2010 at 05:45 PM ----------

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after barely talking at all, he went completely afk, and i wasnt able to get anything out of him.
he stated that beastmode said he xfered the character onto a new account. and he bought it the 3rd (i think according to feedback) and i bought it the 5th, so i doubt he had time to sell it to someone else, and there is no itrader record of a transaction. there fore if this is "true" i can only se that him and beastmode would know the original account information.
 
Beast, please post a screenshot of the sale/trade to Theprof where you state you are not OO and about the guarentee where he agrees.

please update this thread once you two have spoken more.
 
ive tried to contact him again, infact aim was open all day and i did not se him log in, i was not at the com puter all day, but there is also no message left or anything so i assume he was never on.
 
so because there a holliday this weekend they changed our schedual and "fergot" to tell us "oops looks liek someone dropped the ball" my boss said. anyways i came home and strongkid had contacted me. here is the following conversation. you can see i over lapped the screen shots (i.e. each screen shot has parts of the convo from the previous) so you can ensure i left nothing out.
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hopefully talks will continue to be atleast semi fruitful. so far im feeling slightly better about "theprof" as he seems like he wants to do the right thing. but in the end i guess it will all depend on the results. i know beast said he cant help. and i myself am not holding him accountable for anyof it. but hopefully he can atleast point us in the right direction. even if i dont get the account back, it wouldbe nice to uncover the real scammer whoever it may be.

---------- Post added 12-20-2010 at 12:44 AM ----------

omfg i lookde at the screenshots, apparently im terrible at copying and pasteign in paint, i must have scrolled down on the first one to make sure it was all there, then from there on out started pasting without scrolling back up, hence you can see double imagies like overlapping rofl. im sorry i will edit them tomorrow morning i know it looks confusing i was the one in the convo and look at these SS's i can barely figure it out.

---------- Post added 12-20-2010 at 12:53 AM ----------

ok never mind again i just did it now, its all fixed and show properly now sorry for tripple post lol and jsut ignore the above little thing
 
Waiting on beast to post chat logs. Theprof is you have them also, please post.

I'll leave this open until you guys work something out. If you need a mod or myself to settle it, let us know.
 
Banned - Scammer - Associated with Eu.dreamer - Possiby Eu.dreamer using Premium-MMO's account - VPN/proxy
Here is the link to the my original sale thread where I said warranty was voided if the account was sold or traded. http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...r-firsts-arena-master-great-cata-account.html

I checked my aim logs with TheProf he never asked if I was OO and I never stated I was OO. The account name did not match my paypal or my Trust who verified email so I would have never claimed to be OO.
 
i didnt see theprof at all yesterday and he dint attempt to make contact, i left my aim on an no message was left and nothing on forums either. i will try to contact him today. hes is currently not on.
 
again no contact yesterday didnt leave me a message on aim or on the forums, obviously haven't posted here. i have sent him offline messages which says will be delivered to him when he logs in.
 
Well, so me and Strongkid2258 have known each other for quite a while now. And I didn't think he'd ever be like this. He let me play on his 80 warrior account. I bought Cataclysm, leveled it to 85, got it bloodthirsty gear. I told him I would pay him $50 for the account in a week (Told him this about 4 days ago) that when I get money I can do it. He agreed of this. Well, this morning he kept disconnecting me(never changed pass until I gave him payment). I tried to log back on and the password was changed. I'm waiting for him to get online so I can get it back and give him his payment of $50. Strongkid, please talk this out with me =/ I'm out $90 because I bought Cata, faction changed, and realm changed. :(
 
its funny even after leaving him several offline messages on aim, that said they would be delivered when he logged on, i have gotten 1 email, aim message or pm from this guy since the last time i posted screen shots of our conversation. apparently hes not that worried about being banned.
 
well hopefully this will be resolved, id say let him have another day or two. ill pm on forums and leave another message, idh ate to have him banned and get nothing from him. but this is getting rediculous.
 
still havent heard or seen this "stronkid228 / theprof" since 12/20/2010 9 days now. ive tried contacting him through pms, and on aim multiple times. he never responds. he obviously has no interest in resolving this issue. so please take action accordingly. i HIGHLY doubt i will ever hear from him again, im just scammed out of 270$ looks like.
 
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