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Information
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Purchase Date: 2021/12/3
Date the problem began: 2021/12/4
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Telegram & Trade Guardian
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: @samet0gz
Your Instant Messenger ID: @tgmstv
Other information: His epicnpc ID is @luberschirium
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/20k-adult-account.2091394/
Approximate value of property: $300 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? #50310
What is the dispute about?
- We discussed on Telegram, he says now the account is 50K and wanted to get $300, I agreed.
- We proceeded to use trade guardian for the transaction, with @Delac being the middleman.
- The payment was done through Bitcoin transaction. I wanted to use Paypal, but the seller says his country can't accept money with paypal, and I agreed to use bitcoin. (It's my first time using epicnpc and trade guardian, I thought it was safe).
- I received the account credentials from the middleman, and was able to log in.
- I changed the username and email associated with the account, thinking it is safe & can't be taken back by the seller.
- The day after the transaction, I tried to log in, and couldn't.
- I asked the seller if he took the account back (on telegram), he said yes. He also said in order for me to not get twitter account taken back, I should've set up 2 factor auth (which I didn't). It seems Twitter allows original owner to take back control of an account through original email or something.
- When I confronted him and asked him to return me the account, he said he needed the money ($300) and wouldn't want to return the account. He also says I'm a "bad person" for trying to get the account back (yes it's real)
- He now blocked me on telegram after I told him I'll report his account.
Other details / notes:
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
He blocked me right after I confronted him on telegram, and now I can't see the chat history (such a weird feature).
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Bitcoin transaction confirmation link: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q3whg2y9aqwwwf0n62ac3esle3d5hudcjsqukha It shows the $300 worth of BTC I sent to him.
Screenshot:
Other proof:
Our trade guardian chat history screenshots can be provided that includes his bitcoin address, which matches the screenshot above. But I assume you guys can see it since I gave you the TG ID?
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) Twitter account @hannahowo_
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 1 day
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
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Purchase Date: 2021/12/3
Date the problem began: 2021/12/4
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Telegram & Trade Guardian
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: @samet0gz
Your Instant Messenger ID: @tgmstv
Other information: His epicnpc ID is @luberschirium
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/20k-adult-account.2091394/
Approximate value of property: $300 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? #50310
What is the dispute about?
Summary: I just bought a twitter account from him and he took it back by using Twitter loophole.
- The original price in the selling thread is $150, for 20K twitter account (@hannahowo_)- We discussed on Telegram, he says now the account is 50K and wanted to get $300, I agreed.
- We proceeded to use trade guardian for the transaction, with @Delac being the middleman.
- The payment was done through Bitcoin transaction. I wanted to use Paypal, but the seller says his country can't accept money with paypal, and I agreed to use bitcoin. (It's my first time using epicnpc and trade guardian, I thought it was safe).
- I received the account credentials from the middleman, and was able to log in.
- I changed the username and email associated with the account, thinking it is safe & can't be taken back by the seller.
- The day after the transaction, I tried to log in, and couldn't.
- I asked the seller if he took the account back (on telegram), he said yes. He also said in order for me to not get twitter account taken back, I should've set up 2 factor auth (which I didn't). It seems Twitter allows original owner to take back control of an account through original email or something.
- When I confronted him and asked him to return me the account, he said he needed the money ($300) and wouldn't want to return the account. He also says I'm a "bad person" for trying to get the account back (yes it's real)
- He now blocked me on telegram after I told him I'll report his account.
Other details / notes:
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
He blocked me right after I confronted him on telegram, and now I can't see the chat history (such a weird feature).
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Bitcoin transaction confirmation link: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q3whg2y9aqwwwf0n62ac3esle3d5hudcjsqukha It shows the $300 worth of BTC I sent to him.
Screenshot:
Other proof:
Our trade guardian chat history screenshots can be provided that includes his bitcoin address, which matches the screenshot above. But I assume you guys can see it since I gave you the TG ID?
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) Twitter account @hannahowo_
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 1 day
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
