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It's obvious jester changed the recovery emails he should know what they are. It right there in the pictures recovery email changed exact date I sold him the account. Why the hell should we pay for jeesters mistake those arnt even are recovery emails... I refuse.
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I do not resolve disputes. sorry
I want to help, but the first thing I told you not to change the info that you could disable the account and that happened.
Now I don't understand, the email that Drip sent me was generic.gaming, there is no other email involved.
I will look for more information to see if I can help.
I want to help, but the first thing I told you not to change the info that you could disable the account and that happened.
Now I don't understand, the email that Drip sent me was generic.gaming, there is no other email involved.
I will look for more information to see if I can help.
I get it's not your responsibility to resolve disputes. I just found it funny how someone like Dripbone and others in this chat responded much earlier (2-3 days earlier) than when I tried to reach you for days on end (with your last seen being a moment ago). You wouldn't even respond to my PM or TG chat).
Banned - Scammer
All this because jeester made a honest mistake (he is new) Also id like to point out the account may could have been recovered if the buyer balois were to actually wait for me to respond instead of spamming the recovery options a billion times. Could have just gotten to use my recover cell phone which was on the account but I think he spammed the recovery so many times my cellphone wasnt even a option anymore so I guess jeester isnt totally at fault.
Banned - Scammer
that wasnt changed thats the email for the account im talking about the recovery email for that email.
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Generic gaming is the email on the account. What im saying is I GOT a email stating that the recovery email for generic gaming was changed. Which were the exact dates I sold you the account.
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So you may have possibly changed the recovery email idk mabye
Because I assumed you did because I sold you the account the exact date those recovery emails changed. Again which are shown in the pictures. But honestly this is pointless. I say jeester pays 70% back because balois I hear spammed recovery info which resulted in getting the account FULLY locked. Which puts him at fault too. If he had just waited mabye we could have used my cellphone to recovery the email.
Banned - Scammer
what makes u think that?
Banned - Scammer
I have no hotmail emails that match the number of **** does it really work like that? Cus joeb92727 dosnt even match the correct amount of ***** but its the only email i had that started with jo**** idk.
Banned - Scammer
Wait thats interesting so d0pe got his recovery email changed the same date jeester contacted me about trying to recover the account so that would mean either jeester or balois changed the recovery email right or nah?
There is no way to prove who change the recovery email after it was locked. You can suspect someone, but there will be no solid proof, this is why I decide to split the loss between all 5 users involved.
You can continue to work with each other to recover the [email protected] account. If it's ever recovered, then we'll be able to determine who was lying and that user will be banned.
For now to resolve this dispute, a split between all parties is required. These are small payments, so it should be a small loss for each person.
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
The easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
You can continue to work with each other to recover the [email protected] account. If it's ever recovered, then we'll be able to determine who was lying and that user will be banned.
For now to resolve this dispute, a split between all parties is required. These are small payments, so it should be a small loss for each person.
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
The easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
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Banned - Scammer
just in case someone says i changed it I sold the account to jeester he had it for like what 2-3 months atleast? why the hell would I change it lol.
But why would any of the previous owners pay back an account that they sold months ago that litterly has nothing to do with not to mention is was jeester who did not inform him to change the info also balois spammed the recovery info multiple times which resulted in a even bigger lock on email. So I refuse to pay any money for this in my eyes the only fair way is jeester pays 50$ back which isnt even half of what balois paid for balois has even agreed to this. Idk why you telling previous owners to pay back money for someones elses mistake. But even then good luck with getting the other buyers to pay some money back. EDIT*** having d0peboost recovery email changed on same date jeester started contacting me about getting the account back is pretty solid proof imo. Why the hell would I change it one and a half month later? even worse the OG owners changing it up to what 6 months later? That's just me tho. EDIT 2** I have been looking into this for like the past 2 weeks now talked to every single person that had the account that I know of. Slav claimed his recovery email was generic gaming 02 (Not generic gaming 01) also said himself he was the creator of this email and bdm account. Wakufuyap sold me the account like idk 2-3 months ago claimed those werent his emails which I can beleive I had the account for like atleast a month didnt change the recovery info at all for like 2 weeks nothing happened to the account. NOW jeester sells it AND d0peboost gets a email stating the recovery email has been changed on the same date. So honestly it looks to me it was either balois or jeester. Us orginal owners had ZERO problems with this in the span of what 6-8 months or whatever then jeester sells it then all these problems happen.
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam.1826116/page-6#post-8947379
Coming in late on this thread, but this solution makes 0% sense and is silly it's coming from the moderator. The problem was created between jeester and Balois and it needs to be solved there. It's obvious jeester messed up by trying to flip the account to quickly. This is common knowledge when selling an account for any game that you run the risk of flagging suspicious activity on the account. True solution should be Balois needs to be refunded 100% for this poorly executed transaction and the seller (jeester) takes fault for the obvious mistake. If jeester can recover his account, he'll be lucky, if not, lessons learned. This is how real world works. You buy something online, and it doesn't get delivered, it's the sellers issue at that point to try to recover the product or recover the loss from shipping company or whatever. I think, everyone has been very helpful to jeester at this point by providing everything that is known, and if he still can't get it unlocked, then hopefully he remembers to build in a cooldown into his account before he tries to flip it next time.
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam.1826116/page-6#post-8947379
Just read through the first few pages and it sounds like jeester decided to sell the account without MM? It only adds to the fire. Can't avoid MM and then beg EpicNPC to help you recover your locked account and not be willing to refund.
Also just noticed EpicNPC flagged my account as Warning: Trade with Caution. I think that's a joke to bring in someone from 4 months ago and 4 transactions later and ask him to pay $23 and flag him as scammer. Where is your logic lol? Anyhow, I've provided all the help and support that I had, the rest....good luck.
Also just noticed EpicNPC flagged my account as Warning: Trade with Caution. I think that's a joke to bring in someone from 4 months ago and 4 transactions later and ask him to pay $23 and flag him as scammer. Where is your logic lol? Anyhow, I've provided all the help and support that I had, the rest....good luck.
This argument happens often when a split lose is decided.
There are 2 options since there is no evidence who recovered the [email protected] account.
1) Everyone splits the lose.
2) All seller's are responsible and must issue a refund to their buyer.
Sellers are responsible for locks because locks are common. They can happen on a login when the IP changes or they can happen if information is changed. If the seller can't unlock, they have to issue a refund because the seller is responsible.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Since no one can unlock it, please undo ALL sales and issue refunds to your buyers. Gamerslavco you are then responsible for unlocking the email and recovering the BDO account because you're the original owner. You can then resell it once you recover it.
This is the decision if option #2 is selected.
If you do not agree to either option #1 or #2, you will be banned.
I'll give everyone 48 hrs to make a decision then bans will be issued.
There are 2 options since there is no evidence who recovered the [email protected] account.
1) Everyone splits the lose.
2) All seller's are responsible and must issue a refund to their buyer.
Sellers are responsible for locks because locks are common. They can happen on a login when the IP changes or they can happen if information is changed. If the seller can't unlock, they have to issue a refund because the seller is responsible.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Since no one can unlock it, please undo ALL sales and issue refunds to your buyers. Gamerslavco you are then responsible for unlocking the email and recovering the BDO account because you're the original owner. You can then resell it once you recover it.
This is the decision if option #2 is selected.
If you do not agree to either option #1 or #2, you will be banned.
I'll give everyone 48 hrs to make a decision then bans will be issued.
Banned - Scammer
Why are you saying someone recovered it? Pretty sure no one did and the account is just locked. Like you said you have no “evidence” that someone “recovered” it.
Banned - Scammer
How the hell are we responsible for locks jeester forgot to notify of 14 day rule then balois proceeds to spam the recovery info which resulted in bigger lock and this is are fault? If he just waited I could of just use my cell to recover it but he spammed the recovery which resulted in the big lock. Again how is it are fault that we dont know the recovery emails when it’s pretty obvious jeester or balois have changed it due to the dates of them changing provided in the pictures. So your telling us its are fault cus jeester forgot to mention the rule and balois spams so now we are getting banned? Yea I think I will probly just take the ban that is complete bs. Side note** Jeester wont even pay him back 50$ so why not just ban him? It was his mistake and he shows hes not willing to refund the money for his mistake. Can we get some other mods in here this is bs. I also doubt slav and ther other owner are going to pay him.
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You are a joke. I don't know how old you are but you are using logic of a 12 year old. Grow up and learn how the real world works. I sold the account flawlessly to wakfuyap and we both handled our transaction seamlessly and professionaly and followed all the guidelines with MM and made sure the account is safe and secure without triggering any gmail locks since we both understood that having different IP address login to your account and change credentials triggers security flags.
For you to even consider the fact that me, wakfuyap, and Dripbone had anything to do with this latest transaction 4 months later just shows how incompetent you are at handling these types of conflicts. For us to be financially responsible for the idiotic mistakes jeester obviously made by #1) flipping the account shortly after purchasing it #2) not informing Balois and MM to not change any credentials or recovery emails since a cooldown has not been long enough from the time that he's bought the account and most importantly #3) not using MM to handle the transaction and then coming to cry here on EpicNPC for help.
True solution is: jeester refunds Balois full amount for poorly and improperly executed transaction, and works on trying to recover the account. This is how the real world works. Your welcome EpicNPC that I did your job for you on this one and the fact that I even took time out of my day to try to help jeester after his major mistakes in selling the account.
I will take both of your answers are "no, I will not comply". If you refuse to comply you will be banned in 24 hrs.
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
The easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
The easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
Banned - Scammer
Lol yea not gunna support a website that supports a buyer locking the account then the mods blaming it on older sellers for someone elses mistakes. I'll glady take my ban I enjoyed this website but after this lmao no I cant take this moderator seriously. No thanks. Have a nice day. 
The point is not being a buyer blocking the account, the point is a vendor selling a product he's not able to unlock. (In this case you're the vendor). To me this looks like the best solution since It takes into account everyone's losses and positions, and It's the fairest position one could take without damaging 1 single member too much.Lol yea not gunna support a website that supports a buyer locking the account then the mods blaming it on older sellers for someone elses mistakes. I'll glady take my ban I enjoyed this website but after this lmao no I cant take this moderator seriously. No thanks. Have a nice day.
Now to the facts :
The solution offered is the one that offers the least amount of damage to all of the parties, clearly if one member refuses to refund then this entire process results in a big loss for 1 user.
That aside, you'll eventually regret getting banned when you have to sell a product, I believe an account with 50feedbacks is very trusted and It's a shame you want to go down this way, you could've earned much more in the long run. But you do you, that's my 2cents, you're both ethically and from a business point of view wrong, and I wanted to explain you why before you were banned. I really suggest you refund the user, in 12months you'll make your money back and way more. Do you really want to trash a year of work to become trusted over this dispute?
Your call. I really hope you reconsider.
Banned - Scammer
I have a question how is jeester not banned right now? He created this problem refused to pay any money somehow isn't banned? lol AGAIN how is it my fault I can't recover the email when jeester DID NOT inform the buyer and the buyer continues to spam the recovery info's before actually waiting for me to reply which resulted in the bigger lock. Again I don't even know who's emails those are and I believe jeester and balois have changed the recovery info. You really think sellers from 6 months prior are going to recover this account and they just so happen to recover it now? Even so there are pictures showing that the recovery emails were changed on the exact dates jeester starting selling the account so which might even mean they were the ones with the recovery emails and not mentioning them and blaming other sellers. I refuse to pay back money for someone else's mistakes and the buyer is not completely innocent here. Also you guys don't even know if the account was even "recovered" which I highly believe it wasn't it's just locked because like I said the seller and buyer spammed the recovery info. I mean isn't it obvious from the info provided? If I was the judge here jeester pays back 70% or gets banned simple. But now again somehow jeester isn't even banned yet and refused to pay anything LOL.
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-Me Slavo and the other gentlemen forget his name sell the account in the span of 4-6 months with zero problems on the account
-Jeester sells account WITHOUT middleman forgets to tell buyer about 14 days info and account gets locked
-Jeester and the buyer spam recovery info which resulted in even bigger lock
-Moderator proceeds to ban slavo with zero evidence on him "recovering" the account and because he refuses to pay back for someone else's mistake that has nothing to do with him but yet the mod does not ban Jeester the one who made this problem and also refuses to pay any money back
-Moderator claims someone "recovered" the account yet the the buyer and seller obviously locked the account by spamming recovery info also a picture was provided with the recovery email being change the exact date Jeester decided to sell the account. (The account wasnt even recovered just locked) but somehow its the original sellers fault that they cannot recover the account when obviously jeester and the buyer locked the account and had changed a recovery email. I mean really? You think that the original sellers are just going to change the recovery email 4-6 months after and it just so happens to be on the date Jeester decides to sell the account like really? None of the original sellers even know who's emails those are and yet you expect them to recover the account when they don't even have any of there info relating to them on the account?
-Jeester contacted me asking me to help recover the account I did everything I could even suggested to send a code to my phone but they couldn't even do that because the phone wasn't even an option anymore due to them panicking and spamming the recovery info somehow its my fault? The mods don't even know who's email those are and from past events and evidence its pretty clear the last 2 people had changed the emails. But yet again somehow its our fault?
-Jeester sells account WITHOUT middleman forgets to tell buyer about 14 days info and account gets locked
-Jeester and the buyer spam recovery info which resulted in even bigger lock
-Moderator proceeds to ban slavo with zero evidence on him "recovering" the account and because he refuses to pay back for someone else's mistake that has nothing to do with him but yet the mod does not ban Jeester the one who made this problem and also refuses to pay any money back
-Moderator claims someone "recovered" the account yet the the buyer and seller obviously locked the account by spamming recovery info also a picture was provided with the recovery email being change the exact date Jeester decided to sell the account. (The account wasnt even recovered just locked) but somehow its the original sellers fault that they cannot recover the account when obviously jeester and the buyer locked the account and had changed a recovery email. I mean really? You think that the original sellers are just going to change the recovery email 4-6 months after and it just so happens to be on the date Jeester decides to sell the account like really? None of the original sellers even know who's emails those are and yet you expect them to recover the account when they don't even have any of there info relating to them on the account?
-Jeester contacted me asking me to help recover the account I did everything I could even suggested to send a code to my phone but they couldn't even do that because the phone wasn't even an option anymore due to them panicking and spamming the recovery info somehow its my fault? The mods don't even know who's email those are and from past events and evidence its pretty clear the last 2 people had changed the emails. But yet again somehow its our fault?
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@Gamerslavco wants to resolve. @Balois619
