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Banned - Scammer
Hello I did not receive any emails on ***[email protected] and already checked this with jeester. As he said I did get verification codes on my phone (Which I beleive was the person jeester sold the account too). Anyways from what it looks like the buyer in fact indeed try to change the info before the recommended 14 days, which resulted in the account lock. Jeester has contacted me and we have tried to unlock the account but nothing worked.
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Balois619 logs into Gmail and updates password, possibly other info.
Balois619 was not warned by jeester to wait 14 days before changing Gmail info.
Gmail becomes locked
jeester can't unlock Gmail.
DripBoNe can't unlock Gmail.
On Jan 2nd Angle resets the password and it shows it was sent to this email. DripBoNe posted this is his email, but he did not receive anything.
https://gyazo.com/c3db67484cd5d2dc85bed7ee3b9fe131
Sent to jo******@gmail.com
jeester also posted that a recovery email was sent here, but no one know who's email this is.
Sent to gam***@gmail.com
1) I don't understand why on Jan 2nd when Angle reset the password DripBoNe didn't get an email. Can you please double check the account and spam folder?
2) DripBoNe, who did you purchase this account from? gam***@gmail.com is one of the recovery emails. Perhaps your seller would be able to assist in the unlock.
3) At this time there are 4 different people resetting the password on the email gen*********[email protected]. I have not tried resetting it because if it's locked, I don't want the cooldown timer to restart. It's likely we'll have to wait 10 days up to 30 days before this email will be recoverable.
Ultimately Gmail locks are the responsibility of the seller. If they're not the original owner and do not have the ability to unlock a Gmail account, this information must be told to the buyer before payment. This is based on our "full disclosure" rules.
I think the best course of action is to try to unlock the Gmail. It's 4 days since the lock, maybe we'll have some luck by 10 days. If by day 11 it still can't be unlock, we'll determine the next step at that time. For now please answer the questions above.
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Balois619 logs into Gmail and updates password, possibly other info.
Balois619 was not warned by jeester to wait 14 days before changing Gmail info.
Gmail becomes locked
jeester can't unlock Gmail.
DripBoNe can't unlock Gmail.
On Jan 2nd Angle resets the password and it shows it was sent to this email. DripBoNe posted this is his email, but he did not receive anything.
https://gyazo.com/c3db67484cd5d2dc85bed7ee3b9fe131
Sent to jo******@gmail.com
jeester also posted that a recovery email was sent here, but no one know who's email this is.
Sent to gam***@gmail.com
1) I don't understand why on Jan 2nd when Angle reset the password DripBoNe didn't get an email. Can you please double check the account and spam folder?
2) DripBoNe, who did you purchase this account from? gam***@gmail.com is one of the recovery emails. Perhaps your seller would be able to assist in the unlock.
3) At this time there are 4 different people resetting the password on the email gen*********[email protected]. I have not tried resetting it because if it's locked, I don't want the cooldown timer to restart. It's likely we'll have to wait 10 days up to 30 days before this email will be recoverable.
Ultimately Gmail locks are the responsibility of the seller. If they're not the original owner and do not have the ability to unlock a Gmail account, this information must be told to the buyer before payment. This is based on our "full disclosure" rules.
I think the best course of action is to try to unlock the Gmail. It's 4 days since the lock, maybe we'll have some luck by 10 days. If by day 11 it still can't be unlock, we'll determine the next step at that time. For now please answer the questions above.
Banned - Scammer
I have checked the email mutiple times and spam/junk there was nothing just checked 3 times before this post and I could try to get the seller.
[email protected]? thats the jo** email you guys talking about? its the only one that I have that starts with jo
[email protected]? thats the jo** email you guys talking about? its the only one that I have that starts with jo
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Banned - Scammer
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/mediah-10k-cp-destroyer-full-pen-hex-reds.1743142/ found original seller here will try to message on discord if I find him.
I don't know if that's the email. I can't see the full email, only what Google shows "jo******@gmail.com"
Google shows 8 characters, joeb92727 is 9 characters so that might not be the correct email.
@wakfuyap this is for an account you sold to DripBoNe. The gmail gen*********[email protected] has become locked and security codes are being sent to these 2 emails, however it does not appear DripBoNe knows either of the email addresses. Do you know what email accounts these are? Can you assist in the Gmail unlock?
Sent to jo******@gmail.com
Sent to gam***@gmail.com
That discord Slavv#2827 belongs to gamerslavco. I'll try contacting him.
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/gamerslavco.907535/
@wakfuyap you selected "yes" in your thread that you're the "original owner". False advertising results in a 100% refund if the buyer requests it.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/mediah-10k-cp-destroyer-full-pen-hex-reds.1743142/
False multiple violations for false advertising will result in a ban.
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/gamerslavco.907535/
@wakfuyap you selected "yes" in your thread that you're the "original owner". False advertising results in a 100% refund if the buyer requests it.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/mediah-10k-cp-destroyer-full-pen-hex-reds.1743142/
False multiple violations for false advertising will result in a ban.
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam.1826116/
I suggest you read our trade guardian thread. Buyer tells middleman he is aware I am not owner and to proceed with the deal. Original owner contact information was provided as well. Keep your threats to yourself, little man.
Banned - failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam.1826116/
If I as rude it was because I felt like you were accusing me of being a scammer. I go out of my way to do fair business on this site. I imagine the current buyer and seller are frustrated and can relate. Always a measure or risk in these type of deals. I had nothing useful to contribute other than slav’s contact info. Hope it gets fixed, my apologies.
Yes, sorry for not updating. he replied with this.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Balois619 logs into Gmail and updates password, possibly other info.
Balois619 was not warned by jeester to wait 14 days before changing Gmail info.
Gmail becomes locked
It seems no one knows what these 2 emails are and no one has access to either.
Sent to jo******@gmail.com
Sent to gam***@gmail.com
I sent a follow up reply to Gamerslavco and will wait for his reply.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Balois619 logs into Gmail and updates password, possibly other info.
Balois619 was not warned by jeester to wait 14 days before changing Gmail info.
Gmail becomes locked
It seems no one knows what these 2 emails are and no one has access to either.
Sent to jo******@gmail.com
Sent to gam***@gmail.com
I sent a follow up reply to Gamerslavco and will wait for his reply.
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I attempted to reset the password today on the Gmail gene********[email protected].
1) The backup codes given by the MM to Balois619 no longer work.
2) There is a new recovery email added to the account.
••••••@•••••••.••• (not gmail.com, 7 letters so either hotmail or outlook most likely)
This new email does not match either of the previous 2 recovery emails
jo******@gmail.com
gam***@gmail.com
I can only conclude that the Gmail account was recovered by someone and they have added a new recovery email.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
@Gamerslavco
@wakfuyap
@DripBoNe
@jeester
Did any of you recover the gmail account?
1) The backup codes given by the MM to Balois619 no longer work.
2) There is a new recovery email added to the account.
••••••@•••••••.••• (not gmail.com, 7 letters so either hotmail or outlook most likely)
This new email does not match either of the previous 2 recovery emails
jo******@gmail.com
gam***@gmail.com
I can only conclude that the Gmail account was recovered by someone and they have added a new recovery email.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
@Gamerslavco
@wakfuyap
@DripBoNe
@jeester
Did any of you recover the gmail account?
It does not appear we're going to figure out what happened, but someone has recovered the Gmail account and is lying about it.
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Since someone unlocked the account, I'll publicly post the BDO info so the account can be banned. Feel free to report this to BDO. Since you're all claiming you don't have the account, no one should care that it gets banned.
BDO account : [email protected]
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/hot-sale-mediah-huntress-8800-cp-hex-red-20-bil-silver-250.1693333/
@Balois619 changed too much info on the Gmail and got it locked.
@jeester failed to warn Balois619 about changing the info and that he should wait at least 2 weeks.
@DripBoNe, @wakfuyap and @Gamerslavco all failed to recover the Gmail account.
Resolution
Account sold for $140
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
Jeester and Balois619 caused the issue, so they are responsible for 50%.
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe are being included for the other 50% because someone should be able to unlock this account. OO should be able to unlock and both sellers had the account for more than 30 days so it's possible their info was being used as the recovery info. Someone HAS recovered the Gmail and is lying. This is why all 3 of you are being included. I don't know who it is.
I think the easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
This way everyone shares some lose and the account will hopefully get banned.
Please post if you plan to follow this decision or not. If there is no post in 48 hrs, I will take that as a "no".
Sept 20 - Gamerslavco (OO) sells account to wakfuyap
Oct 23 - wakfuyap sells account to DripBoNe
Dec 2 - DripBoNe sells account to jeester via TG #30367
Dec 30 - jeester sells account privately to Balois619
Since someone unlocked the account, I'll publicly post the BDO info so the account can be banned. Feel free to report this to BDO. Since you're all claiming you don't have the account, no one should care that it gets banned.
BDO account : [email protected]
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/hot-sale-mediah-huntress-8800-cp-hex-red-20-bil-silver-250.1693333/
@Balois619 changed too much info on the Gmail and got it locked.
@jeester failed to warn Balois619 about changing the info and that he should wait at least 2 weeks.
@DripBoNe, @wakfuyap and @Gamerslavco all failed to recover the Gmail account.
Resolution
Account sold for $140
50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
Jeester and Balois619 caused the issue, so they are responsible for 50%.
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe are being included for the other 50% because someone should be able to unlock this account. OO should be able to unlock and both sellers had the account for more than 30 days so it's possible their info was being used as the recovery info. Someone HAS recovered the Gmail and is lying. This is why all 3 of you are being included. I don't know who it is.
I think the easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
This way everyone shares some lose and the account will hopefully get banned.
Please post if you plan to follow this decision or not. If there is no post in 48 hrs, I will take that as a "no".
If you want to remain anonymous, best way to come clean to to PM EpicNPC and tell him you’ve recovered the account and give the credentials. I’m sure he’ll respect you coming clean and keep you anonymous and we can finally put this to rest.
Banned - Scammer
Why am I being told that I owe 23$? I sold the account with zero problems the owner had it for like 3 months and sold it without informing about the info changes what does this even have to do with me honestly? I already showed proof that I have no emails relating to the recovery. Im being asked to pay back money because I was unable to recover a account that is no longer mine and has 2 new owners with me having zero idea who's recovery emails those are. Someone HAS to know who's emails those are jeester did u make any changes while owning the account?
Banned - Scammer
Honestly if I changed the recovery emails I would know what emails I would have on there. So it makes me think jester or the other buyer changed the recovery info. Im not exactly sure if I changed the recovery info but I do have a memory of changing it a few weeks after owning it and if I did I would regonize the recovery info on there.
Banned - Scammer
So I spoke to the owner that I bought it off and jester they both claim that they did not change ANY of the recovery info on the account. https://gyazo.com/79b6118fba3f939c8dc29c349bfb9771 which leads to the emails being the owners of the FIRST owner of the account. Which he didnt reply yea?
Banned - Scammer
But I heard the password change was succesfull so how did it get locked?
Banned - Scammer
So either u or jester is lying OR your geniuen and its the FIRST owners recovery info mabye we should contact the FIRST OWNER but otherwise I refuse to pay 23$ for a mistake that was not my fault.
Banned - Scammer
@DOP3BOOST You wouldnt happen to know those emails? lol Edit** someone asked already didnt look lol
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Banned - Scammer
Ok ok that's fine just trying to dumb down the possibilities here and those are the ones we have. Innocent till proven guilty right
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Banned - Scammer
If I manage to get a hold of the first owner then there might be a chance of recovering the account since he the second last possibility that atleast I know of. @Balois619
Banned - Scammer
So just had chat with orginal owner says they arnt his emails so honestly im totally lost SOMEONE is lying mabye someone knows the emails there but a mistaking them? Anyways here's what original owner said https://gyazo.com/442f6696a2982e4fa4e92d5d5e609976 https://gyazo.com/013eebb873305d398240a824dd3d3bce
Banned - Scammer
So I sent a recovery email to myself my [email protected] and i actually got the verification code..... BUT https://gyazo.com/877a7eb5d93bae46a89352e77cac786c I give up gunna call it quits till mod respawns lol
Banned - Scammer
Ok so I just found out the jeester did INDEED change the recovery email I have proof of the generic gaming email recovery being changed on the exact date of the day I sold the account to jeester. You can check the trade guardian transaction the dates match.
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Why did it take so long for you to figure this out.? jo******@gmail.com was posted as one of the recovery emails since this dispute was opened. This info should have been posted long ago. It's possible the Gmail could have been recovered early on with that email.
When I tried to reset the password today I still see "••••••@•••••••.•••" as the recovery email. I tried to enter [email protected], but it did not accept this email, so I'm not sure how you were able to initiate a recovery with that email.
At least 7 people, including myself, have begin trying to access or reset the email [email protected] in the last week. Because of this most likely the security is very high and it won't accept most information. I don't believe anyone will be able to recover the email, especially if someone else already recovered it and changed info.
As stated, I don't know who changed the email to ••••••@•••••••.•••, but everyone is saying that's not their email. This is why all 5 sellers/buyers are being included in the resolution.
I think this is the only fair method and the payments are small, so I hope everyone will be able to accept the compromise.
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50% split between @jeester and @Balois619.
50% split between @Gamerslavco, @wakfuyap and @DripBoNe.
I think the easiest solution is for everyone to send a payment to Balois619
jeester owes $35
Gamerslavco, wakfuyap and DripBoNe owe $23 each
Once Balois619 receives the payments, he'll have received $104, losing $36.
