Scam Dispute Against sems / https://www.epicnpc.com/members/sems.1539140/

[RexGuard]

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Information
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Purchase Date:
Date the problem began:
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: sems#8094 / Discord ID : 929277201063485461 | https://www.epicnpc.com/members/sems.1539140/
Your Instant Messenger ID: ! Rexine#6632 | 836445958576799784

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/ear...-for-sale-discord-account-in-stock-x.2246294/
Approximate value of property: $90
Was Trade Guardian used? we did not
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about? He pulled back early supporter account and doesnt respond to any of my messages nor my friend that does the deal with him

Other details / notes: He is from turkey


Proof
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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof:

Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No he did not, but the account went back to the same email originally, only user with oge mail can do that, and he got oge mail access but he doesnt tell you that its the oge mail. he also deleted the email he once sent in dms which makes it proveable that he pulled it back (he is the owner of the oge mail)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? he gave us Screen Shots, after paying he gave us Email / Pass for the account email and transfered the discord acc to ours
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? about 2-3 days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it. =

(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES

 

[Angel]

@sems

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

yessir

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

This is a bit of a silly accusation, I didn't guarantee my account anyway, I said I wasn't the first owner, I had the account for 4 months

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

The day I sold the account, I lost all access to the account, a few days later they started harassing me, even though there is no evidence that I stole the account, they have the 2nd place they applied.

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

all they do is think i stole the account and harass me like that

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

If only you had proof that I really scammed on you..

 

[RexGuard]

hey you just give out your self btw, you still have the email access, then whats wrong with changing the pass and not answering my dms? thats just silly

 

[RexGuard]

and also deleting the email/password in my friend dm? if ur not the original email owner then why do you do that... you gave out your gmail pass and the email it self for us to access it in the first place.....

 

[RexGuard]

The day I sold the account, I lost all access to the account, a few days later they started harassing me, even though there is no evidence that I stole the account, they have the 2nd place they applied.

i have alot of proof, when we tried resetting the password, the email confirmation goes to the mail you sent us to access the gmail...

 

[RexGuard]

my friend tried contacting you, but you left him with no reply. if you were not scamming you would explain the situation and what happened, instead you ignored both of us and pretending like you dont know me lmfao. and also deleting proof you sold the acc to us, isnt that what a legit seller would do???

for the images: he ignored us for 6 day straight! without any solid response of the situation, is that something that a legit seller would do? im terribly embarrassed, loosing control over an early supporter account. but i really hope you understand my situation at that time.

 

[RexGuard]

but yeah, the seller isnt giving any response and starts deleting his dm history with my friend. i was thinking that he pulled back the account and starts deleting all the evidence that could be used against him. but thankfully my friend took a screen shot on the whole conversation. and when he starts deleting his messages thats when i suspect him for possibly scamming us. if you want to prove your innocent, then allow me to access the gmail account. i will only tell my reasoning to EpicNpc Staff/Moderation Team. i wont even tell my friend.

 

[RexGuard]

you also did not specify your no guarantee thing, and you did not even tell me about it in dms, or did you? i dont think so

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

I removed my email from the past because your friend started harassing my email, that's all.

 

[sems]

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

You tried to report me to ScammerAlert on Discord and it ended in my favor.

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

Everyone thinks that you are trying to get more than me and undermine my work but you will not succeed, I got unfounded feedback because of you, now I have 1 star on the site and I have a warning

 

[RexGuard]

hey thats off the point.. its not your mail anyway, why do you care? the email was supposed to be given to the buyer anyway, but if email was the real problem, the password does not do any harm right? then why did you delete it? why did you changed email pass without telling/informing us first? in your screen shot you also said you give no guarantee but did you say it to us when we are buying it? i dont think so or do you? or in the epic npc thread did you specify that? no? or did you?

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

Although I didn't defraud you, this issue where you played the victim didn't happen on EPICNPC, why are you writing something here?

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

My only crime is deleting my e-mail, I already told you why, your friend was harassing me. He was sending 100 e-mails per minute.

 

[RexGuard]

Although I didn't defraud you, this issue where you played the victim didn't happen on EPICNPC, why are you writing something here?

because how i found you is through epic npc and you had epic npc account, so whats wrong about opening a claim, and for the email, why did you change the password? and when we tried asking for access you ignored us?

 

[Angel]

Stop arguing

@sems you are responsible for what you sell, please help with recovering this account, if you fail then a full refund must be issued

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

It is obvious that these people are trying to defraud me, I have been holding the account for 4 months, 2 days after I sold the account, the person I sold it to says the account was taken back?

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

It's obvious they're trying to scam me

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

this not my fault

 

[RexGuard]

do you have evidence? @sems , do you?

 

[sems]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

Neither of us has any proof, we're just talking about assumptions, there's no reason to pay the price, stop playing this game.. really no need

 

[CheapBoosts]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-cheapboosts.2419479/#post-8829322

As you can see in the evidence, we purchased the account, 2 days later I cannot sign in, it says there is no email linked to the Discord account. So I check the email of the early, and there are no new emails. That means after we purchased the account, it was pulled back.
You told me yourself when I was securing the account to keep the original phone number on it. You said yourself I can trust the number, so I left it on the account. Funny enough, I could not sign in with the email, the early was no longer tied to my email, but when I tried the phone number which was tied to the account, it sent a password reset request, then again when I tried the email that was on the early account before I secured it, it sent a password reset request again.
We need a working account or a refund.

 

[RexGuard]

to clarify nvck is my friend

 

[RexGuard]

is what my friend and i said was not enough supporting evidence of your scheme? i dont see any way of us scamming "you"

 

[sems]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-sems-https-www-epicnpc-com-members-sems-1539140.2263762/page-2

I guess you're new to discord, it's impossible to damage an account with a phone number. You can't withdraw an account with a phone number.

 

[CheapBoosts]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-cheapboosts.2419479/#post-8829322

Obviously I'm not new to Discord, knowing that pulling back an account the account that has the account does not receive an email, in which case I received absolutely zero emails from Discord despite not being able to log into the account that I purchased. And besides that, I've been a seller on Discord for 3 years now, owning one of the largest boosting service cheapboosts.to with 2500+ customers so I know a thing or two about Discord, Now as you can see in the video that Rex has provided, I was going to sell the account to one of my customers, powhw. That's when I tried logging into the account and it wasn't working, so I tried doing a password reset and it said that no account existed under my email. Then I tried doing a password reset with the phone number that you had connected on the account, and it sent a password reset. Now you may say you switched the phone number over to your account, that doesn't make any sense because you were saying to me to leave the phone number on the account and it's trusted. Regardless of that, I could not sign in and Rex and I both tried contacted you and you completely ignored us until I made a scam report.

When I was going to sell the account to powhw, I had created a group chat with the early account and him so he can see it. Now tonight I've got more evidence, as you LEFT the group chat we were in. So you obviously have control of the account and trying to play the victim. @Angel See video attached: https://streamable.com/zeqkea
The seller pulled back the account I purchased, started making up lies and then saying "no guarantee" and even left a group chat I had made with the account.

 

[Angel]

Banned

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sems#8094