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Here is the post:

http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-item...ectral-tiger-gold-horde-archimonde-1-2-k.html

I was contacted by SafeTradeMMO after he saw my post. He wanted to buy all 300k of what I put in the thread. He asked me if I could sell him my guild bank. I didn't want to do that. He then said that was fine, he had another seller. I said okay, thanks anyways. He then messages me back (on aim) saying the other seller fell through. He then said he would buy 100k and I could trade it to him face to face. He said his IP wasn't Chinese so I wouldn't get banned.

I go through with the ordeal. I give him the 100k. Apparently he is selling the gold to another guy as soon as I give it to him. He says once he gets payed, I will get payed. He trades it off to some level one (after I take him to org on my 2-seater mount). Then takes him 15 or so mins to say anything back to me. He then says, okay sorry for your wait. He says it will be a bank transfer and will take 2-3 days. Then he sends me a copy/paste of what he sent via PayPal.

It gave the right amount of money, but the incorrect name. He was like is everything straight? I said... no I have received nothing and that is not my name. He then starts going on a tangent on how he was so sorry and that he sent the money to the wrong person. He said luckily the person was on and issued a refund but it will take 2-3 days for him to receive it because it was a bank transfer.

He said he would give me positive feedback and get in touch with the admins. He told me he would make sure I get my money and would keep in contact with me. It has been two days now and he has not said one word to me. I sent him a PM today on the forums and his excuse was all of his accounts were hacked.

This is not my problem, this is his problem. If this is true (which I know it isn't) he would be responsible enough not to get a keylogger. I am giving him negative feedback for this reason as well as my loss of 100,000 gold on WoW


I told him I was going to make a scam thread for not keeping in touch with me. This was his response.

"Hey there just got this message, i dont know who you are, or what business you thought we had, my comptuer was compromised and i have not had access to paypal, email, aim, mmobay,facebook, etc... i have notified the mods and they are doing all they can to resolve any issue that my account was involved in."

---------- Post added 03-13-2011 at 11:29 PM ----------

Was to angry to read that there was a required template.


Information
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Date that scamming took place: ex; Friday, March 11, 2011
Method of Contact Used: Aim
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: SafeTradeMMO
Your Instant Messenger ID: Senwan
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: SafeTradeMMO
Other information:

Scam Information
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What was scammed?: 100,000 Gold
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-item...ectral-tiger-gold-horde-archimonde-1-2-k.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $105.00

Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: I was contacted by SafeTradeMMO after he saw my post. He wanted to buy all 300k of what I put in the thread. He asked me if I could sell him my guild bank. I didn't want to do that. He then said that was fine, he had another seller. I said okay, thanks anyways. He then messages me back (on aim) saying the other seller fell through. He then said he would buy 100k and I could trade it to him face to face. He said his IP wasn't Chinese so I wouldn't get banned.

I go through with the ordeal. I give him the 100k. Apparently he is selling the gold to another guy as soon as I give it to him. He says once he gets payed, I will get payed. He trades it off to some level one (after I take him to org on my 2-seater mount). Then takes him 15 or so mins to say anything back to me. He then says, okay sorry for your wait. He says it will be a bank transfer and will take 2-3 days. Then he sends me a copy/paste of what he sent via PayPal.

It gave the right amount of money, but the incorrect name. He was like is everything straight? I said... no I have received nothing and that is not my name. He then starts going on a tangent on how he was so sorry and that he sent the money to the wrong person. He said luckily the person was on and issued a refund but it will take 2-3 days for him to receive it because it was a bank transfer.

He said he would give me positive feedback and get in touch with the admins. He told me he would make sure I get my money and would keep in contact with me. It has been two days now and he has not said one word to me. I sent him a PM today on the forums and his excuse was all of his accounts were hacked.

This is not my problem, this is his problem. If this is true (which I know it isn't) he would be responsible enough not to get a keylogger. I am giving him negative feedback for this reason as well as my loss of 100,000 gold on WoW
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Proof
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Chat Logs: Use
tags. We only talked via aim and sadly I did not keep the chat logs. The only proof I have is the private message he sent me back on these forums stating he was hacked.

"Hey there just got this message, i dont know who you are, or what business you thought we had, my comptuer was compromised and i have not had access to paypal, email, aim, mmobay,facebook, etc... i have notified the mods and they are doing all they can to resolve any issue that my account was involved in."

Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes
Have you traded with this person before?: No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?: 2
 
Banned - multiple accounts - scammer - QuickCataKeySale
I never contacted this person, I spoke to swTCH the moment my account was compromised on my alternate AIM and warned him about the loss of my emails/social networking sites etc due to a keylogger, one that my anti virus didnt pick up unfortunately. Along with this I now have 600$ in paypal that I had to claim as unauthorized transactions, I can provide paypal screenshots etc if you would like it, showing the compromised account etc. If there's anything I can do to help in the matter I'd be more then willing too provide all the info I can.
 
SafeTradeMMO still owes me a Cata key...I haven't reversed PP yet...
 
I never contacted this person, I spoke to swTCH the moment my account was compromised on my alternate AIM and warned him about the loss of my emails/social networking sites etc due to a keylogger, one that my anti virus didnt pick up unfortunately. Along with this I now have 600$ in paypal that I had to claim as unauthorized transactions, I can provide paypal screenshots etc if you would like it, showing the compromised account etc. If there's anything I can do to help in the matter I'd be more then willing too provide all the info I can.

Sadly when this happens your still viable for the actions that take place on your aim or alternate aim's, this has been a rule here for along time. Senwan i hope you get compensated...
 
The exact same thing happened to me, pretty much the identical story the original poster has stated. I traded him 133K gold for $150. He said he sent me the money via paypal, it showed me the right amount of $ but the wrong name. I told him that it wasn't me and he goes... DAMNIT STUPID AUTOFILL CHROME but luckily the person he sent the money to was online and that he would get me the money in 2-3 days. I contacted SafeTradeMMO today to get my money and he says that I he has no idea what I am talking about and that he got hacked.
 
If your not involved please stay out of this thread. PM'd swTCH so he can confirm you contacted him.

EDIT: On a side note I ran your IP, specifically the one the came from the post you made on the OP's thread... it matches your other IP's. Can you explain?
 
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1) Your accounts registration IP = the IP in the sell thread http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-item...ectral-tiger-gold-horde-archimonde-1-2-k.html

So your account was not hacked, unless they were sitting at your computer.

2) This IP matches with QuickCataKeySale & tristan0629 (tristan0629 is an old account) , both previoiusly banned for scamming.

3) Looking up tristan0629 on the old UBB forums, I see 9 more banned accounts.

easy70
Blaine119
Acc4SaleUS
Wowsaleus119
Cynthius
WoWkid12345
WoWboy2009
SellingFemalePally
Christofer

4) You already have 2 other people also claiming you owe them money/itmes, KillaNo1 and DigitalMMO, aside from senwan.

Now I know why you used TWV instead of MMOBay Verified, because I would have caught this.

SafeTradeMMO is banned.

I'll leave this open for 24 hrs.
 
Here's the screenshot Kascada:

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