Professor474747 is a scammer. He promised Discord Mass DM and failed.

[hatebeinsober]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Information
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Purchase Date: 01/31/2022
Date the problem began: 01/31/2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] Kollegah#0001
Your Instant Messenger ID: Hate Bein' Sober#5858

Other information:
How he scammed me: He told me he can verify his bots by using captcha and send mass DM to people on the server. After I paid to him, he said he can not send DMs because he couldn't verify. I asked if he can refund me the money since he can't finished the job, he forced me to choose another server to advertise but I don't have any other servers to advertise which I told him before. Its only 100$. Literally nothing for me.. But he is a greedy little scammer and people need to know!

On top of this, he said I have a rule saying that he doesn't refund. But when I go and check his Q&A page, he edited the page 5 minutes after he scammed me and added that rule.


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/discord-mass-dm-advertising.2138168/
Approximate value of property: $100.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? NO
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? NONE

What is the dispute about? 100$

Other details / notes:
He is trying to be smart and use some ways to cover his fraud.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

PART I ASKED IF HE CAN DO THIS SERVER:

PART HE TOLD ME ITS OKAY TO HAVE FAIL ON THE SYSTEM BUT CLEARLY ITS NOT OKAY.

PART I TOLD HIM TO REFUND ME BUT HE REFUSED.

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
PART HE GAVE ME HIS ADDRESS

PROOF I PAID TO HIM

Other proof:

PROOF HE CHANGED HIS Q&A AFTER HE SCAMMED ME!!

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[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

So I Need to send everything again? I will keep it short and write alll important info’s here and send screenshot.

He ordered a few days and I delivered. After the first order He asked if I can do mass dm on a special server and I said yes I can do there its possible. 4 days later he asked me if I can do on this special server and I said maybe but it can be that they changed security and he should send me also some other alternatives. He said the server works 100% cuz he checked it himself . But the server doesent work anymore cuz they probally changed something on they scruirity so he gave me false information . At the end I said he can give me other servers to mass dm and that I don’t do refunds . Then he calls me scammer.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

Proofs

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

Btw he also created a whole thread of me and telling false informations. A thread where he doesn’t wanna buy or sell anything he just spreads false infos in it

 

[hatebeinsober]

So I Need to send everything again? I will keep it short and write alll important info’s here and send screenshot.

He ordered a few days and I delivered. After the first order He asked if I can do mass dm on a special server and I said yes I can do there its possible. 4 days later he asked me if I can do on this special server and I said maybe but it can be that they changed security and he should send me also some other alternatives. He said the server works 100% cuz he checked it himself . But the server doesent work anymore cuz they probally changed something on they scruirity so he gave me false information . At the end I said he can give me other servers to mass dm and that I don’t do refunds . Then he calls me scammer.

I only checked if its the same system. And even if I am wrong (eventho I am not wrong) why don't you refund me? You had no rule about no refunds. Then you added it after you scammed me lol And I proved it.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

cuz I allready did 1k dms for you and spent my time at the order and I never do refunds. No one in this scenes does refunds. I gave you the opportunity to send other servers instead where I can mass dm but you refused cuz you don’t wanna search for other servers.

 

[hatebeinsober]

cuz I allready did 1k dms for you and spent my time at the order and I never do refunds. No one in this scenes does refunds. I gave you the opportunity to send other servers instead where I can mass dm but you refused cuz you don’t wanna search for other servers.

Okay I don't mind if you cut the money for 1K and refund me the rest.. which is 10$. And there is no other servers that I can promote what I want to promote. This is a very specific subject.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

I don’t do refunds. Never did never will. You gave me false information cuz your check was not correct. I offered other servers to mass dm. I don’t see here the right for you to call me scammer cuz of your own faults.

The mods should decide. I want to get his feedback from my thread removed since it’s not right I didn’t scammed him. You act like I took your money and blocked you lmao. Your own fault not mine. I was trying to do my service and offered you alternatives. T

 

[hatebeinsober]

I don’t do refunds. Never did never will. You gave me false information cuz your check was not correct. I offered other servers to mass dm. I don’t see here the right for you to call me scammer cuz of your own faults.

The mods should decide. I want to get his feedback from my thread removed since it’s not right I didn’t scammed him. You act like I took your money and blocked you lmao. Your own fault not mine. I was trying to do my service and offered you alternatives. T

It is not my fault. You clearly said you can do it and there is nothing different. Even you showed me a screenshot of your bots failing to pass captcha lmao

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

It is not my fault. You clearly said you can do it and there is nothing different. Even you showed me a screenshot of your bots failing to pass captcha lmao

The error is not a captcha error lmao it’s a bug read the error xD. And yes I said 4 days ago that I can do there not now. You told me that I can do there for sure ^^ I warned you

 

[hatebeinsober]

The error is not a captcha error lmao it’s a bug read the error xD. And yes I said 4 days ago that I can do there not now. You told me that I can do there for sure ^^ I warned you

You didn't warm me for anything. You asked me if their verification system changed, and I said it didn't because their verification chaptcha is the same thing.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

You didn't warm me for anything. You asked me if their verification system changed, and I said it didn't because their verification chaptcha is the same thing.

Bruh . Here I warn you that maybe they changed systems and you said you checked but you didn’t checked food then.

 

[hatebeinsober]

Bruh . Here I warn you that maybe they changed systems and you said you checked but you didn’t checked food then.

You said this AFTER I PAID. And until I pay you were saying yes you can do it. It is your responsibility to know what you can offer or not

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

You said this AFTER I PAID. And until I pay you were saying yes you can do it. It is your responsibility to know what you can offer or not

Lies. You sent me the server after payment lmao not before so I had no clue of the server . Stop lying now. Mods when will this end ?

 

[hatebeinsober]

Lies. You sent me the server after payment lmao not before so I had no clue of the server . Stop lying now. Mods when will this end ?

I asked you if you can do it couple days ago and you said yes. I asked you 3 times. No need to argue further. I will let admins decide.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

I asked you if you can do it couple days ago and you said yes. I asked you 3 times. No need to argue further. I will let admins decide.

Yes couple days ago and not now or yesterday! You sent me the payment and after that you sent me the server where you want the DMs I told you that maybe I can’t do there cuz they changed security. You should have sent me the server before you send the money that easy . Here the proof

 

[hatebeinsober]

Yes couple days ago and not now or yesterday! You sent me the payment and after that you sent me the server where you want the DMs I told you that maybe I can’t do there cuz they changed security. You should have sent me the server before you send the money that easy . Here the proof

they didn't make any changes. you said you can do advertise on that server and you couldn't. + You never had no refund rule in your thread or Q&A page. You added after you scammed me.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

didnt scammed you it was your own fault. And they did changes on the server you are not a admin on the server so stop talking bullshit. Offered you other servers to do it’s your own fault. Yes i added it in my rules for people like you. And I also had no rule wich says refunds are allowed lmao i decide if I refund or not and I don’t do refunds that simple.

 

[hatebeinsober]

didnt scammed you it was your own fault. And they did changes on the server you are not a admin on the server so stop talking bullshit. Offered you other servers to do it’s your own fault. Yes i added it in my rules for people like you. And I also had no rule wich says refunds are allowed lmao i decide if I refund or not and I don’t do refunds that simple.

You can't do such thing lol you can't change your rules after you made a deal.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

Bruh I never changed rules I just wrote the rule down. If there is no rule concerning refunds I can handle how I want. I had no rules wich said that I do refunds. You didn’t asked me about refunds before your placed your order if you did I would have told you that I don’t do refunds. Again your own fault. I’m also 100% sure even if I had it in my Q&A channel before you wouldn’t have read it anyways . I know that from my experience

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

will a mod/admin pls answer here? his review is still on my thread and no one has done anything

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Professor474747 according to your post, there is nothing in it about not working on certain servers, the buyer also asked you multiple times before if there would be any problems and you said no. Was the buyer ever told there could be any issues at all before the deal was completed?

 

[hatebeinsober]

@Professor474747 according to your post, there is nothing in it about not working on certain servers, the buyer also asked you multiple times before if there would be any problems and you said no. Was the buyer ever told there could be any issues at all before the deal was completed?

No. Not the first time I asked.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

@Professor474747 according to your post, there is nothing in it about not working on certain servers, the buyer also asked you multiple times before if there would be any problems and you said no. Was the buyer ever told there could be any issues at all before the deal was completed?

You didn’t read all. He sent me the money first and then he sent me the server! If he sent me the server first I would have told him that the server has upgraded his secruity

 

[hatebeinsober]

You didn’t read all. He sent me the money first and then he sent me the server! If he sent me the server first I would have told him that the server has upgraded his secruity

I asked you before, if you can do in that server!!!

 

[hatebeinsober]

 

[hatebeinsober]

Also you sent me this message to trick me. I was verified in that server. If you can't mass dm on that server, how did your bot manage to send me a DM?

 

[hatebeinsober]

And on top of that, you made your bots to join my server to trick me into thinking mass dm is working. All the people that came from your mass dm is left the server and one of them is named Professor

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

I asked you before, if you can do in that server!!!

I told you that4 days ago . But how should I now that I should do this server ? You didn’t tell me before you ordered. You told me I should do this server after you ordered. If you told me before I would have told you that secruirty has maybe changed and I need to check again

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

Also you sent me this message to trick me. I was verified in that server. If you can't mass dm on that server, how did your bot manage to send me a DM?

Thats is one from my bots. . Some managed to verify

 

[hatebeinsober]

Thats is one from my bots. . Some managed to verify

then that means you can do mass dm on this server? Why are you refusing to do it? You said they changed the protection now you are saying some managed to join hahaha you are full of lies bro

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

then that means you can do mass dm on this server? Why are you refusing to do it? You said they changed the protection now you are saying some managed to join hahaha you are full of lies bro

Buddy you don’t know anything about mass dm . I joined with 500 accounts and only like 20 were able to verify completely the rest not wich means they have a limit on how many can verify in a certent time. I can’t mass dm in such way but these 20 or idk how many that were , were able to send some DMs

 

[hatebeinsober]

Buddy you don’t know anything about mass dm . I joined with 500 accounts and only like 20 were able to verify completely the rest not wich means they have a limit on how many can verify in a certent time. I can’t mass dm in such way but these 20 or idk how many that were , were able to send some DMs

Why you never mentioned this then? I didn't receive ANY member from that server. If you mass dm with 20 accounts at least 1 or 2 people would join lol its very simple. join the server with your accounts again and see if they can verify? Make a video about it and thats all you will prove your point.

At this point, you are refusing to give me my money, or send dm to the server I want..

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Professor474747 if there was a server you couldn't do the buyer should have been notified before sending the money, you brought up no issue about any servers before the trade.

 

[Professor474747]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

@Professor474747 according to your post, there is nothing in it about not working on certain servers, the buyer also asked you multiple times before if there would be any problems and you said no. Was the buyer ever told there could be any issues at all before the deal was completed?

@Professor474747 if there was a server you couldn't do the buyer should have been notified before sending the money, you brought up no issue about any servers before the trade.

Discord has 10k servers . He paid the money and then he told me wich Server he wants . He also didn’t mentioned that he only wants on one specific server. He should have say that cuz all my other clients don’t want on one server they give me a whole server list

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

Pls reply and lets finish this . We arguing since 3 days now. It was a miss communication and no scam since I was rdy to do other servers and he sent me the money first and then he sent me the server I can’t see the future.

 

[hatebeinsober]

Pls reply and lets finish this . We arguing since 3 days now. It was a miss communication and no scam since I was rdy to do other servers and he sent me the money first and then he sent me the server I can’t see the future.

refund me the money or get banned bro simple as that

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

refund me the money or get banned bro simple as that

Lmao banned from for what ? And I don’t do refunds simple as That. You still can just pick other servers instead. To the admin here I want his review to get removed since I didn’t scammed and it was his fault and miscommunication. Offered him to do other servers but he refuses and he sent me the server where he wants the DMs for the order after he sent money. I will not be quite till his review gets removed since it’s a lie. Refund nope but I can do other servers if he refuses then ok but still review need to get removed

 

[hatebeinsober]

Lmao banned from for what ? And I don’t do refunds simple as That. You still can just pick other servers instead. To the admin here I want his review to get removed since I didn’t scammed and it was his fault and miscommunication. Offered him to do other servers but he refuses and he sent me the server where he wants the DMs for the order after he sent money. I will not be quite till his review gets removed since it’s a lie. Refund nope but I can do other servers if he refuses then ok but still review need to get removed

Nahh dude you tried to scam me. You sent me fake DMs acting like its working. You even made your fake accounts join to my server saying "look people are joining to your sever". You first said they changed their security system, therefore you can't do mass dm. Than you said, oh actually some of the accounts manage to get into the server. One thing you say is not matching the other lol. And I honestly don't care about 100$ its nothing to me. I make 100$ every 10 minutes lol. I will get you act right and either refund me or get banned from here or at least keep that bad review on your profile. I will also do other things to make sure you can't promote anymore.


And look, I have proof that you sent me fake users to make me believe you are actually sending dms lol

This is your other account. Its even in the server that you own. Why did this account joined to my server if its not to make me believe that you are sending DMs??

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

zero proofs just nonsense talking from you. i offered you to do other servers but you refused its your own fault and this account it not even from me lmao. Also dear admin he is threathing me in his last message i dont think that i right. Pls finally close this and delete his review since i didnt scammed him and he made misscommunication. He fist paid and then sent me the server wich didnt worked and i dont do refunds

 

[hatebeinsober]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

zero proofs just nonsense talking from you. i offered you to do other servers but you refused its your own fault and this account it not even from me lmao. Also dear admin he is threathing me in his last message i dont think that i right. Pls finally close this and delete his review since i didnt scammed him and he made misscommunication. He fist paid and then sent me the server wich didnt worked and i dont do refunds

so you are saying I created a discord account, bought nitro for it, named it Professor and made it join to MY server and YOUR server at the moment you told me you started advertising LMAO. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES. Max scammer IQ

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

you just talking bla bla. show proof that that is my account lmao and also show me when the account was created cuz you say i just created it. you have zero proofs so stop talking bullshit and be real for one ****ing time. admit yout misstakes that you should have sent me the server first and that you lie about that i scam since i offered you to do on other servers.

 

[hatebeinsober]

you just talking bla bla. show proof that that is my account lmao and also show me when the account was created cuz you say i just created it. you have zero proofs so stop talking bullshit and be real for one ****ing time. admit yout misstakes that you should have sent me the server first and that you lie about that i scam since i offered you to do on other servers.

I already sent you the server first.

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

nope you didnt. you did 4 days ago and just asked about it but you did not metioned the server before you sent me the money

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Professor474747 as the seller it is your job to communicate what you can and cannot do before the sale occurs. The customer paid for a service you couldn't perform. They dont want your service on another server, they want it on their server. You gave them no impression you couldn't do that before the sale, its not listed in your threads and it wasn't brought up in pre-sale conversation.

 

[hatebeinsober]

@Professor474747 as the seller it is your job to communicate what you can and cannot do before the sale occurs. The customer paid for a service you couldn't perform. They dont want your service on another server, they want it on their server. You gave them no impression you couldn't do that before the sale, its not listed in your threads and it wasn't brought up in pre-sale conversation.

can you please ask him to refund me..

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

@Professor474747 as the seller it is your job to communicate what you can and cannot do before the sale occurs. The customer paid for a service you couldn't perform. They dont want your service on another server, they want it on their server. You gave them no impression you couldn't do that before the sale, its not listed in your threads and it wasn't brought up in pre-sale conversation.

If you buy a Cheeseburger at McDonald’s but you want that burger without sauce you need to say that before you buy so at the beginning.

HE DIDNT SAY AT THE BEGINNING HE ONLY WANTS ONE SERVER TO BE RAIDED!!

Something so special need to be say at the beginning by himself I don’t need to ask every customer before every detail they should know what they want and tell me that

He was the first customer who wanted on only one server never had someone like him. So no I didn’t need to ask him before since no one wants only one server raided never had that he had to tell me that before that simple

 

[hatebeinsober]

If you buy a Cheeseburger at McDonald’s but you want that burger without sauce you need to say that before you buy so at the beginning.

HE DIDNT SAY AT THE BEGINNING HE ONLY WANTS ONE SERVER TO BE RAIDED!!

Something so special need to be say at the beginning by himself I don’t need to ask every customer before every detail they should know what they want and tell me that

He was the first customer who wanted on only one server never had someone like him. So no I didn’t need to ask him before since no one wants only one server raided never had that he had to tell me that before that simple

yeah but at mcdonalds it says this hamburgers comes with sauce lol you didn't mention anything. Plus, I asked you couple days ago if you can do it, and you said yes. As mc donalds doesn't change their menu all of a sudden, you can't change the service you provide without notice lol

 

[Professor474747]

Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/professor474747-is-a-scammer-he-promised-discord-mass-dm-and-failed.2156571/

I didnt changed anything the server changed there secruity and you asked 4 days ago not before you made the order big difference

 

[hatebeinsober]

I didnt changed anything the server changed there secruity and you asked 4 days ago not before you made the order big difference

lies. They didn't change anything and you said you managed to make some of your accounts join. You are full of lies bro. You will get banned lol