People not wanting to use Escrow service

[Damocles88]

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Hi all, I joined the forums recently and a few people have contacted me via discord to trade.

However, both of them refused any sort of trade guardian. They both linked me profiles, feedback was not too much. One of them said they are a moderator of a team, and if I don't trust them they won't sell me gold in the future.

Smells like scam? Is there a reason why legit people wouldn't use trade guardian? Thanks

 

[iAccomplish]

If sellers are unwilling to use trade guardian its very likely it's a scam.

If they say they are a moderator always do more checks to prove that they are moderators here. Just tell them to simply send you a PM on our site to verify or you can send them a PM to verify that you guys are about to execute a trade.

When doing so, don't just say generic things such as, "Hi iAccomplish" because I will most likely say "Hi" back, but we may not be trading. Say something related to the trade.

 

[doomedtofail]

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Do not accept a linked profile as true. Anyone can link you a profile. Make them post in your thread with the discord they are contacting you on.

 

[Damocles88]

Thanks guys appreciate the info

 

[Kai]

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Hey @Damocles88, I would suggest following these steps if you intend on using Discord for trading in the future:

How do I keep myself safe on Discord?

• ALWAYS add the person you are in communication with directly. If the seller/buyer has their discord username in their threads, copy and paste their name into Discord and add them that way. This is a very reliable way to make sure you are communicating with the correct person.

• ALWAYS confirm who you are talking with on Discord via EpicNPC website to validate the transaction. This is important to make sure you are actually talking to the person you intend to trade with even if the Discord tags or profile looks the same. Discord usernames are very easy to impersonate and can look identical.

Note: You can also use this account checker linked here to assist in validating ID’s and make sure no unicode characters are being used in their names, as these type of characters are often used by those attempting to impersonate and mislead others.

https://characterchecker.com

What should I avoid during a Discord trade?

• NEVER accept an invite to deal or trade in a Discord group setting, keep it on PM ONLY! Scammers often use these platforms to communicate when dealing as it is very simple to clear any conversation history and ban those they targeted for the scam from the group, leaving no evidence behind. Sellers and Buyers are not allowed to post these links on EpicNPC for this reason.

• NEVER use the search tool on Discord to look up an EpicNPC user, always add them directly. Since Discord ID's can look exactly the same, you might be looking up an impersonator instead, (lying in wait for you to make this mistake).

Important Note: If a reputable EpicNPC user contacts you directly on Discord about a post on EpicNPC, be extremely cautious here! Most scammers will do this to attempt to set up deals and take your items or money all the while impersonating trusted users. Always confirm who you are talking to on EpicNPC, and add them directly. Taking an extra few minutes to verify who you are talking to could save you money, time, and effort. So with that said, be smart. Don’t let a quick transaction be your last.

Lastly, keep in mind that Middle Man (MM) transactions through Trade Guardian will always be conducted through EpicNPC. MM’s will NEVER contact you off site.


For more information on how to stay safe on EpicNPC or Discord please see these threads:

https://www.epicnpc.com/infocenter/buyingguide.html
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dis...cker-detect-the-scammer.1494125/#post-6511156
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/how-to-tell-if-a-paypal-payment-was-a-gift-or-not.497357/

Hope that helps,