Overwatch - Fishingman Boosting Scam

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 5, 2017

Information
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Dispute Date: June 4 2017

Method of Contact Used: Skype

EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Fishingman

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about?
Money

Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1098599-%F0%9F%90%9F-Top100-Tnsane-Speed-no-cheats-fishingman-s-overwatch-boosting-service

Approximate value of property: $40 USD

Was a middleman used?
No

Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Fishingman will NOT refund my $40 because of unsatisfactory service and an INCOMPLETE boost.

Proof
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Screenshots,
http://imgur.com/a/YBxMy

Along with twitch.tv/iamalegendatow
That was his stream, he was very toxic and played badly so you can watch the VODS if he didn't delete them.

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction?
Yes, fishingman had good rep on this site but his service was terrible.

Have you traded with this person before?
No

Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC?
2

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He is also acusing me of scamming him which makes no sense since we agreed upon $40 until GM where I would pay him another amount.

CBSthegreat · Jun 5, 2017

Please attach a screenshot of his Skype user name as well

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 5, 2017

Skype screenshot:

http://imgur.com/a/TYBqz

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More info:

Do NOT recommend, did 100 SR a day in LOW-MID master! (I doubt he is the rank he claims to be)
He was toxic in the game and did not listen when I said to not be toxic.
Always duo'd with his GF in Master and random people and lied about their ranks.
Had bad stream quality.
Lied about his SR gains.
Will NOT refund my $40 I spent for the unsatisfactory and incomplete service and used derogatory language to me in DMs.

I paid $40 to GM, which you HAVE agreed upon and then pay for top500 per 100 SR afterwards. You were SUPER toxic in game, everytime something didn't go your way or YOU YOURSELF got picked you flamed the team. You played 4 games with a diamond/master support main who was your girlfriend and another hanzo who was low GM, without my permission. You did lie about MMR and SR gains, and about your own rank. I wanted to get a boost to top500 and agreed on a total price. I said I would pay him after GM but he kept haggling me for some before, so I gave in to $40. He did not complete the boost on time and I did tell you why I needed it done by sunday. I was unsatisfied because you took 5 DAYS TO CLIMB 500 SR. Your page says FAST boosting. It was NOT fast. Another booster literally hooked me up with a discount because of your poor service and got to GM in a mere hour from the MMR you ruined on the account. And how were you scammed in the transaction? You didn't do your job so you don't get paid. What?

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Also, I have no proof of the voice conversation but he was racist to Jews since i wanted my money back???

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

I'm just not sure of how I scammed him. Regardless if I was toxic or not, I got his account from 3.3-3.8, I charged him 40$ as said in my response to his negative trade review. I took an hour break and he had changed his password and told me I had scammed him. I physically couldn't do anything else.

I'm happy to post the whole skype log if that helps, but I just fail to see any evidence of me scamming him. I was a little nippy at him but thats only because I did way more that 40$ worth of service for him. According to my thread, 3300-3800 is 148$, if you don't include the placements that I played for him. That's the main reason im so upset, because he's trying to say I scammed him, when really im owed AT LEAST another 108$

Regardless of the acclaimed toxicity, racism, or whatever, it has nothing to do with if I scammed him or not, which I didn't
I'm not sure how I can prove that I actually did the boost because he has changed his battletag and I don't have a vod because he said he diddnt want me to record twitch vods, but he told me in skype that he had a recording of the whole thing to use against me, so maybe he can provide proof that I got him from 3.3-3.8 and placements XD

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

Umm, no, we agreed on $40 in skype, we weren't adhering to the thread. I didn't change it until after you left for the night. I did tell you to record the VODs.

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Also I didn't even change my battletag what? All I changed was my password

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Fishingman said:
I was a little nippy at him but thats only because I did way more that 40$ worth of service for him.

This makes no sense, we agreed on $40 for the amount of service provided to GM but it was not even completed. How can you say I owe $100 when you didnt get the job done and explicity agreed on $40. Also, why woiuld you nip at a customer thats PAYING for you service?

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Fishingman said:
Regardless of the acclaimed toxicity, racism, or whatever, it has nothing to do with if I scammed him or not, which I didn't

This implies that you DID do these things on my account.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

You changed the password on the account before I could completed it, then submitted a scam report. I got off for an hour, when I came back you had messaged me on skype threatening me that you would shut down my whole business if I didn't refund. I have logs bud

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

No I did not, I changed it after you left the stream for 2 hours while I was waiting patiently for you to complete the boost. I have logs aswell

doomedtofail · Jun 6, 2017

Boosting thread removed, this behavior will not be tolerated. One toxicity on accounts will cause damage to customer accounts. Racism and foul behavior towards other members will not be tolerated.You have already admitted to this.

I do not see where you agreed to 40 dollars to gm, please post that part of chat. his thread prices are far higher.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

I don't understand, I wasn't toxic, his definition of toxicity might be telling a player that if he doesn't switch we lose. I by no means said anything on his account to get it in trouble or damage it. I streamed the entire boost, and my behavior on the account was the same throughout. He never once told me to not talk in voice chat or anything of the sorts, I was certainly vocal in-game, because this is a 6v6 game and you need to coordinate to win. He decided to change his password when I was very far into the boost because it was convenient for him, he even offered to pay me after I had streamed for 4+ hours for him.

I was not toxic in-game on his account
There is no proof of me being toxic on his account
There is no proof of me being racist

If I get my thread removed because I called a scammer braindead, then im not sure what to say

*Update*

While I did take an hour or 2 break, at no point in time did I say I was done with the boost.

https://gyazo.com/e53315b02cbc006de8e926376553d5a6

That is us agreeing on Saturday, June 3rd, that I would try my best to get him GM by Sunday. I by no means guaranteed that I would get it, you can't guarantee in overwatch boosting

*Edit: I keep thinking of more things.
Based on our original agreement, it is very strange that he would change the password when I was near completion of the boost. I had already agreed to do the service before he had paid me, as a pay-upon-completion basis. We agreed that when I reached Grandmaster, you would pay me for half of the boost to top500, which was 1000$ USD, so 500$. No other booster would do that, I was being extremely kind by doing the service beforehand and trusting you to pay me afterwards. You nullified the expedited service to Grandmaster when you changed the password on your account and filed a scam report against me.
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BoostingMarket · Jun 6, 2017

doomedtofail said:
Boosting thread removed, this behavior will not be tolerated. One toxicity on accounts will cause damage to customer accounts. Racism and foul behavior towards other members will not be tolerated.You have already admitted to this.

I do not see where you agreed to 40 dollars to gm, please post that part of chat. his thread prices are far higher.

He never admitted he was racist/flaming/ or toxic. He wrote "regardless of" which means that this is not the point of the discussions and should be take in account a part from this

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

You were toxic, not only to me as seen in screenshots but to teammates by saying things like you are literally autistic monkeys, you are a brain dead ****, etc. and we agreed to 40 until GM where I would pay. You didn't make it to GM. I am on mobile now but I will try to find a screenshot where he said he would make it by the end of the night as well as him haggling me for more payments

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

Edit: Formatting with a quote

ZerefDragneelZF said:
You were toxic, not only to me as seen in screenshots but to teammates by saying things like you are literally autistic monkeys, you are a brain dead ****, etc. and we agreed to 40 until GM where I would pay. You didn't make it to GM. I am on mobile now but I will try to find a screenshot where he said he would make it by the end of the night as well as him haggling me for more payments

Screenshot?

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

You called a paying customer braindead?

https://ibb.co/bOjL0v

https://ibb.co/bVbNDF

https://ibb.co/fwPnfv

https://ibb.co/fpS7fv

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Some screenshots of payment and him failing to meet deadline.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

ZerefDragneelZF said:
You called a paying customer braindead?

https://ibb.co/bOjL0v

https://ibb.co/bVbNDF

https://ibb.co/fwPnfv

https://ibb.co/fpS7fv

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Some screenshots of payment and him failing to meet deadline.

Can we keep it on topic? I want you to show me screenshots of me being racist/toxic in-game as you claim that I was

those screenshots don't even make sense

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

Also I stopped the boosting because you LOST 5 GAMES IN A ROW IN MID MASTER??? You claim you are top 100 but I highly doubt that. That was more confirmation to payment you failing to meet deadlines. You are already implying that you are toxic and I have proof of you CALLING ME BRAINDEAD? The admin said that toxicity will not be tolerated towards any member. You forget that I'm a member of this website too.

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Top100 tracer main playing tracer lost 5 games in row to mid master. Sketchy. My account is xXPROGENGIxX#1122 so you can look up my stats and see how he lost so much and trolled in some of my games with attack torb etc (which even I didn't notice until looking it up)

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He also said that he can play genji until GM which he lied about as I quickly prevented that after seeing horrific genji play. Don't believe me? Go to Wednesday start of season and look at genji history LUL. Also go to Friday and Sunday until about 3 AM PST where I got another booster to complete his half asses job

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

ZerefDragneelZF said:
Also I stopped the boosting because you LOST 5 GAMES IN A ROW IN MID MASTER??? You claim you are top 100 but I highly doubt that. That was more confirmation to payment you failing to meet deadlines. You are already implying that you are toxic and I have proof of you CALLING ME BRAINDEAD? The admin said that toxicity will not be tolerated towards any member. You forget that I'm a member of this website too.

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Top100 tracer main playing tracer lost 5 games in row to mid master. Sketchy. My account is xXPROGENGIxX#1122 so you can look up my stats and see how he lost so much and trolled in some of my games with attack torb etc (which even I didn't notice until looking it up)

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He also said that he can play genji until GM which he lied about as I quickly prevented that after seeing horrific genji play. Don't believe me? Go to Wednesday start of season and look at genji history LUL. Also go to Friday and Sunday until about 3 AM PST where I got another booster to complete his half asses job

https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/xXPROGENGIxX-1122/heroes/tracer?mode=competitive

having a 77% winrate and being ranked #24 tracer on overbuff is apparently terrible

https://gyazo.com/632161d9d88cc199ffbe7ea5f864523b

Again, you're getting off topic, but I'll go ahead and just continue providing proof against everything you say

Please don't knock my tracer play, I'm literally one of the best in the world

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

Look at the genji winrate is TERRIBLE and you suck *** at tracer. I have another booster that said you play like *** not even counting that one of his boosters played on the account. Don't try to take credit for other people's work.

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And it's not off topic I'm refuting that you're false advertising. You are NOWHERE close to top 500 so stop lying about it and provide proof which you're scared to do

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Taking credit from an actual top 100 tracer main who got from 3800 SR with bad MMR to 4K in 1 hour with good mmr HMM

http://imgur.com/a/H9KFE

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

ZerefDragneelZF said:
Look at the genji winrate is TERRIBLE and you suck *** at tracer. I have another booster that said you play like *** not even counting that one of his boosters played on the account. Don't try to take credit for other people's work.

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And it's not off topic I'm refuting that you're false advertising. You are NOWHERE close to top 500 so stop lying about it and provide proof which you're scared to do

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Taking credit from an actual top 100 tracer main who got from 3800 SR with bad MMR to 4K in 1 hour with good mmr HMM

http://imgur.com/a/H9KFE

I already talked about how you changed the password when I went to take a break at 3.8k, when I was about to be done with the boost and you had to pay me.

I'm no longer responding until I mod has their say, I think it's pretty clear that this guy is just posting screenshots that don't even make sense or pertain to the topic.

Awaiting a mod's answer...

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

Taking 2 hour break without notifying me at 3 in the morning when the deadline was not met? Nice

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He also said he was playing PUBG that night and not grinding my account

http://imgur.com/a/H9KFE

EpicNPC CM · Jun 6, 2017

Zeref and fishing agree to boost for $40
fishing boosts account from 3.3-3.8
Zeref claims boost wasn't complete and Fishing was toxic
Zeref changed password after waiting hours for boost
Zeref files dispute

correct?

ITALY · Jun 6, 2017

EpicNPC CM said:
Zeref and fishing agree to boost for $40
fishing boosts account from 3.3-3.8
Zeref claims boost wasn't complete and Fishing was toxic
Zeref changed password after waiting hours for boost
Zeref files dispute

correct?

I'd add that he waited 2 hours after the deadline, also the booster is well known to be toxic and not a quality service.
Look google for him.

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

I agree with pasta and I want to say that he also didn't play well but yes that was what generally happened.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

copyandpasta said:
I'd add that he waited 2 hours after the deadline, also the booster is well known to be toxic and not a quality service.
Look google for him.

Where are these people getting this from? Well known to be toxic? I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that I am toxic in any way shape or form

I feel as if people aren't even looking at the screenshots that are being posted.

There is no such thing as a DEADLINE in overwatch boosting. Nobody can ever guarantee a rank by a certain day, because you never know what could happen, and if you look at certain screenshots that I posted earlier you will see that I never said I would get it done by a certain day. I'll post it again because I feel mods are not looking at the evidence I've been posting.

https://gyazo.com/e53315b02cbc006de8e926376553d5a6

As shown in this screenshot, we never agreed on a hard deadline

EpicNPC CM said:
Zeref and fishing agree to boost for $40
fishing boosts account from 3.3-3.8
Zeref claims boost wasn't complete and Fishing was toxic
Zeref changed password after waiting hours for boost
Zeref files dispute

correct?

This is harshly oversimplified

-Me and Zeref agree for him to pay 1000$ USD to get him to top500, but he is worried of scammers so I agree at a pay-upon-completion basis, half at 4000SR and the rest at Top500. I will admit, this was a terrible decision on my part

-While streaming the entire thing, I started the boost. I did placements, going 8 wins, 1 loss and 1 tie. He placed in 3300SR, He never mentioned any dissatisfaction with the service.

https://gyazo.com/ce8db41de85aa628faa7f6124261fefb

then here is the conversation after the placements. If you look at the top right of my game window you can see my system clock, and it aligns correctly with our skype log times

https://gyazo.com/0a187f85d7df5c9003d01a8b95fcbc32

-I was gone for 2 days doing IRL things, and since he hadn't actually paid me for the boost it just wasn't a priority for me. There was no GUARENTEED payment at the end, I just had his word to go on.

-Saturday I play some games and stream for him. I don't remember exactly how many games I played, but I got him from 3300-3518SR and he expressed that he really wanted me to get him to Grandmaster by the end of sunday. I'll post again that there was no deadline, I said I would try my best to get him to GM by the time. This is when we had the conversation about trying to get to GM by sunday, I'll repost the screenshot for your convenience.
https://gyazo.com/e53315b02cbc006de8e926376553d5a6

-I get on at about 11am sunday morning to start his grind to 4000sr from 3500sr. I stream for him and he comments about my dope music

https://gyazo.com/0235ad6732c4891109358a8b584e4746\

I don't know about you guys, he dosnt seem unhappy at all. You would think that if he was he would tell me to stop asap

-I continue on with my climb to 4000, getting to 3910 I think and then losing a few games in a row down to 3790. I'm not perfect, even the best players in the world lose game. But I certainly had no intention of stopping, so I continued playing and got him to around 3840 before taking a break. While I didn't tell him I was taking a break, I made no mention that I was stopping the boost. ***Something important to remember is that I HAD NOT GUARENTEED GM BY ANY TIME***, but I did say that I would try, which I certainly did.

At this point in time I have
-Done placements valued at minimum 25$
-Climbed him from 3300-3840, which is, according to my thread, valued a minimum of 150$
-In total, I have done around 175$ in service, and been paid 40$. I was taking a huge leap of faith by doing this before payment.

-After returning from my break, I see messages on skype that he is dissatisfied with his services and demands a refund. This is right before I would get to 4000sr, or Grandmaster, where he would have to pay me 500$, or 459 if you remove the 41$ he had paid me previously.
He messages me this:

https://gyazo.com/5209a9d487673242d7a346092d610584

Apparently he doesn't think I'm a top500 player because I lost a few games. Keep in mind, on his overbuff for competitive I have a 20-5-1 record as tracer, on overbuff his account is ranked #24th tracer in North America, and I had around a 75% winrate on his account. Here are the stats, as I posted earlier in this thread

https://gyazo.com/632161d9d88cc199ffbe7ea5f864523b

As for the "acclaimed" toxicity, I was not toxic on his account. I in no way, shape or form said anything in-game on his account that would be considered "toxic" by most people. Zeref has not posted a SINGLE screenshot or video of me being toxic in-game, his only claim is that I called him "braindead" over skype.

I would like to formally apologize to ZerefDragneeIZF for calling him braindead over skype. This was an immature lash of anger after having done lots of work and getting insufficient payment. I am sorry for any trauma I may have caused.

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

You were toxic, you lost 5 games in a row, and there was a screenshot which you said that you would be done by sunday night. Nope, 3 AM taking a break. You cant use me being happy or unhappy to justified your actions, even if you were gone for 2 days you had to be done by saturday which i extended to sunday night. Damn 3300 after being 3500 last season you must be so good.

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And when you did come back after your break you still kept losing and being toxic so you can't just say that you lost a few lol.

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And you say "according to my thread" your thread has nothing to do with this we agreed on the price using skype.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 6, 2017

ZerefDragneelZF said:
You were toxic, you lost 5 games in a row, and there was a screenshot which you said that you would be done by sunday night. Nope, 3 AM taking a break. You cant use me being happy or unhappy to justified your actions, even if you were gone for 2 days you had to be done by saturday which i extended to sunday night. Damn 3300 after being 3500 last season you must be so good.

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And when you did come back after your break you still kept losing and being toxic so you can't just say that you lost a few lol.

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And you say "according to my thread" your thread has nothing to do with this we agreed on the price using skype.

I LITERALLY just posted a screenshot where I said I would try my best to be done sunday night. I played nonstop, things like this take time.

Maybe it was 3am for you, but it was like 11pm-midnight for me. I just woke up at 3pm today, my schedule is a little weird

You were 3000sr last season, you decayed. I only lost 1 game in placements

you STILL have not provided a screenshot of me being toxic. all I hear from you is "Fishingman was toxic!" over and over and over and you have nothing to back it up other than your own word.

And when you did come back after your break you still kept losing and being toxic so you can't just say that you lost a few lol.

Edit: when I came back from break you had already threatened me with scam report and changed your password, so I couldn't have continued playing

Look at the competitive stats on your overbuff, as I have posted MULTIPLE times.

https://gyazo.com/abab38997a7fe73ee3740c3e2521518a

I can't believe I have to keep posting this, LOOK AT THE STATS, my 3 most played heroes, hog mcree and tracer have extremely good winrates

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 6, 2017

You are 1 hour behind me?? You said "I got it" in the skype logs you SAID you would have it done. YOU WERENT THE ONLY ONE PLAYING ON THE ACCOUNT STOP TAKING CREDIT MMR is the same regardless if I decayed.

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"I LITERALLY just posted a screenshot where I said I would try my best to be done sunday night. I played nonstop, things like this take time."

No you didnt you took breaks.

EpicNPC CM · Jun 7, 2017

Okay so :

Zeref & fish agree to $1000 for top500
Fish agree's to accept half at 4000, the rest at top500
Zeref pays fish $40 to start boost
Fish boosts from 3.3-3.8
Zeref claims fish was toxic, wants refund, opens scam report.

Although Fish did not finish the boost by Sunday, he still completed about 70% of the order.

Zeref if you are claiming fish was toxic, or caused your account to be suspended/warned/banned you MUST show proof of it, otherwise there is nothing we can do.

At this point since 70% of the boost is complete Fishing must be compensated for that part of the service.
Just because fishing didn't finish the order by the time you both (somewhat) agreed to, doesn't mean you don't owe him for the service he actually performed, unless you can prove that he was being toxic and caused your account to be warned/suspended/banned.
If Fishing isn't actually top500 like he states in his threads, that could be false advertising, but Zeref would have to prove that Fishing isn't actually top500.

70% of 500 = 350 - 40 (already paid) = $310

$310 is owed to Fishing unless Zeref has proof of toxic behavior.

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 7, 2017

Toxic behavior to me:

http://imgur.com/a/98W6C

silence for 1 day, sent to personal email:

http://imgur.com/a/zpmXn

There was another person claiming that fishing was toxic in this thread so that further supports this.

Not top500:

Eyewitness account of someone watching his play but not sure if they want to comment I will find out later.

Payment:
The original boost was to top500. I paid $40 to GM to my understanding and then I was supposed to pay per division after that to top500. Fishing was also not the only one doing the boost, so he can't take credit.

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Tried to find the silence on my bnet email but was sent to my personal email 2 days ago.

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And I want compensation for wasting time and false advertising

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Along with him saying on voice chat that Im a jew for trying to get my money back?? And him implying that he indeed was toxic.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 7, 2017

Toxic behavior to me:

http://imgur.com/a/98W6C

I don't think this is grounds for a refund on a service you diddnt pay for. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, it was immature but that's all.

silence for 1 day, sent to personal email:
http://imgur.com/a/zpmXn

I'm very skeptical about this email, there is no time-stamp in it and you diddnt even screenshot the entire email, just a small portion of it.

You would think that this would be really good evidence and he would have posted this earlier, it just seems weird that he is just now bringing this to the table.

*IMPORTANT*
If you've been reading all of zeref's posts in this thread, he keeps bringing up that I wasn't the only one to play on the account. He apparently got another booster to play after he changed his account info at 3.8k. How do we know that it wasn't the other booster that got his account silenced? How do we know that he didn't just log onto his account afterwards and spam profanity in chat to prove his case?

He just has no solid proof that the silence was because of me, or at this point that he is even silenced at all. That screenshot dosn't give much info

Tried to find the silence on my bnet email but was sent to my personal email 2 days ago.

Why would they send the silence notification to his PERSONAL email. It makes no sense for the notification to be sent to any other email other than the email registered to the overwatch account

And I want compensation for wasting time and false advertising

You are the one wasting my time. My thread has been down for like 24hrs a this point because you are trying to waste MY time by leading me on to do 70% of your boost then drop out. I lose time I could be using helping other customers defending myself in a stupid scam report where you have no evidence of anything.

Along with him saying on voice chat that Im a jew for trying to get my money back?? And him implying that he indeed was toxic.

I can go scream that Trump is part of the Illuminati in the streets for the rest of my life. Until I have evidence to back it up people will think im crazy

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 7, 2017

I just sent evidence and I couldnt find it because they sent it to my work email you stupid bonobo. I know the other booster wasn't toxic because I SAW YOU be toxic along with that booster watching aswell. And I do think it is grounds for a refund which I did pay.

Im not going to post my work email on a forum where everyone can see.

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They sent it to my work email because its the backup email on my Bnet

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And that booster who played on it has a lot more rep than you, look at my feedbacks.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 7, 2017

They sent it to my work email because its the backup email on my Bnet

I'm not aware that you can even have a "backup" email for a battlenet account

Please Zeref, I need you to stop saying things and start providing actual, credible screenshots/evidence to back things that you are saying up. You are just wasting everyone's time and dragging this out longer than it needs to by replying without any evidence.

There is no reason it would be sent to a "backup" email instead of the email that you login with. Like I said earlier, I don't think you can even have a backup email.

If you are worried about posting your personal info, message it to the mods you can trust them

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 7, 2017

It did though?

ARMIK · Jun 8, 2017

You can't just get a free 300$ boost and then say booster was toxic and not only avoid paying him but asking your 40$ back.
You haven't provided any solid evidence of the booster being toxic in game.
There is no such thing as back up email for the battle.net account. Feel free to send us a screenshot with that option from your battle.net account settings. You can cross out any sensitive info.

ITALY · Jun 8, 2017

@rmik | ROADTO7K.COM said:
You can't just get a free 300$ boost and then say booster was toxic and not only avoid paying him but asking your 40$ back.
You haven't provided any solid evidence of the booster being toxic in game.
There is no such thing as back up email for the battle.net account. Feel free to send us a screenshot with that option from your battle.net account settings. You can cross out any sensitive info.

Look booster's twitch videos, he was very toxic ingame, idk if he removed em now but it was public and he had flamed a lot.
Just wanted to leave this comment cause i had seen the twitch channel when the user first linked it, before all videos were erased. Can confirm the booster was toxic ingame.
There is no way to prove now due to the seller removing ALL OF HIS STREAMS, but the fact that his channel nown is empty after many boosts done should alarm you and tell you something.
Bye.

EpicNPC CM · Jun 8, 2017

Zeref can you post an image of the email you received from blizzard with the actual timestamp.

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 8, 2017

copyandpasta said:
Look booster's twitch videos, he was very toxic ingame, idk if he removed em now but it was public and he had flamed a lot.
Just wanted to leave this comment cause i had seen the twitch channel when the user first linked it, before all videos were erased. Can confirm the booster was toxic ingame.
There is no way to prove now due to the seller removing ALL OF HIS STREAMS, but the fact that his channel nown is empty after many boosts done should alarm you and tell you something.
Bye.

Your friend should have loads of me being "Toxic" if I really was toxic, he told me he had the entire thing recorded, and that he even had a epicnpc mod watching the whole time

Edit:

https://gyazo.com/a7ee22a6717094199c21a4f3faf53c3d

I never keep VODS unless specifically asked to, mainly because most clients arn't comfortable with videos of their boost being online somewhere, even if its on a private twitch channel

The twitch channel you are referring to was NEVER SET TO RECORD VODS, this is just one in a large string of lies

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 8, 2017

No I cant because it has sensitive info.

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Even this random pasta dude agrees he was toxic lol

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"You can't just get a free 300$ boost and then say booster was toxic and not only avoid paying him but asking your 40$ back."

The boost was only for $40 not 300 what?

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[MENTION=634411]Fishi[/MENTION]ng, the mod was a local OW mod and booster.

ARMIK · Jun 8, 2017

You were asked to post the screenshot of the email with the timestamp on it. Your sensitive info is none of our business, we don't spread personal information here. It should serve as some sort of proving ground for your claims.

Even if you do post it, I don't think anyone will agree here that muting your precious account for 1 day costs 310$.

doomedtofail · Jun 8, 2017

The only issue is with the mute, with blizzard there is a penalty volcano, further infractions will be farm more severe.

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 8, 2017

"Even if you do post it, I don't think anyone will agree here that muting your precious account for 1 day costs 310$."

Precious account in which I paid someone to play on trusting them? Yea.

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And the boost was for $40 not 300 idk where youre getting that from

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 8, 2017

doomedtofail said:
The only issue is with the mute, with blizzard there is a penalty volcano, further infractions will be farm more severe.

There is no evidence whatsoever that he is even silenced. He refuses to show more of the email, and just by comparing it to an actual silence email I notice some differences. Even if he is silenced, we've established that I wasn't the only one to play on the account, and it was even on the same day.

Edit: This guy refuses to post any actual evidence and is dragging this out as long as he can. Every hour that he is just refusing to post any evidence and just keeps making claims is another hour that my thread is down and I can't do buisness. If he can't provide anything, can we please wrap this up?

Edit2: we've already determined that he is lying about having the silence email sent to his personal email, as rmik said :

There is no such thing as back up email for the battle.net account.

So he's lying about having a silence email sent to his personal email, either he fabricated it or never got the email at all.

ZerefDragneelZF said:
silence for 1 day, sent to personal email:

http://imgur.com/a/zpmXn

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Tried to find the silence on my bnet email but was sent to my personal email 2 days ago.

That is him saying that it wasn't sent to his bnet email, but apparently it was sent to his personal email 2 days ago, and as we have established, you cant have a "backup" email for a battle.net account.

He's clearly grabbing at straws and can't post any actual evidence. I'm done arguing with this guy, this has been a huge waste of my time and I don't know how much more evidence I can provide to defend myself

It's important to remember that if Zeref wants to accuse me of something, HE must bring actual evidence to the table to support it. As of now, he has none, but if you look at all my posts over the past 3 days, all I have done is bring evidence to defend myself in this ridiculous scam report.

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ZerefDragneelZF said:
And the boost was for $40 not 300 idk where youre getting that from

Just for proof that we did indeed agree for 500$ at GM:

https://gyazo.com/c5091389628185b4ea404b37ca59e897

Just to clarify incase the mods don't know much about overwatch, GM = 4000sr, I got him to slightly above 3800

ARMIK · Jun 9, 2017

@Fishingman You did 3800, 200 was missing, thats why its not 500$ but 310$ (350$ originally but 40$ was paid in the benning). One thing that I can't understand is what made you believe a stranger and do 500$ boost wihtout even getting partial payments. It's as if the amount he promised to pay you was so much more than you expected that you blindly agreed to do the boost. At least that's what it looks to me after reading your conversations with him. I've never seen a 1000$ boost process take 4 lines of converstaion, even though i myself sold more than 1000 boosts in 3 years, people normally discuss these things and want to make sure everything is according to plan before they proceed. But in this case you can see how easily he offers 500$ as if its 50$ traade and just hopes that you agree to do this free boost as he has no intentions of paying you anyways.

I could be wrong, but I think this guy has never intended to pay you 500$ because from what I know it's also a lot of money for such boost (i do respect everyone's pricing on his job etc etc, but i know that on epicnpc people here are just cutting prices left and right when they see competitors) and it normally costs less, but he could as well offer you 5000$ just because you agreed to do boost without upfront payment. And now we seem him dodging Admin requests to provide proof and this will most likely cause him a ban, but you will still lose the time you wasted on this guy and customers you could have gotten while your thread was jailed. Maybe this will serve you as a lesson for your future trades.

@ZerefDragneelZF There is nothing wrong with your account. You keep avoiding showing screenshots with timestamps of the blizzard email which you claim to be a 'back up email for my battle.net' account.
Your account isn't permanently banned, its just a mute for 1 day that you valued at 350$? (40$ you want refunded originally and 310$ that you owe now). We also saw that another booster has finished the 200 SR boost, so that means your account is in good shape still. So what is your problem now? You think getting 800 SR boost for free is okay just because you falsely claim that your account was muted for 1 day?

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 9, 2017

TriHard LATA

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BAM BAM can't catch me *****

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Gimme gimme

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 9, 2017

@rmik | ROADTO7K.COM said:
@Fishingman You did 3800, 200 was missing, thats why its not 500$ but 310$ (350$ originally but 40$ was paid in the benning). One thing that I can't understand is what made you believe a stranger and do 500$ boost wihtout even getting partial payments. It's as if the amount he promised to pay you was so much more than you expected that you blindly agreed to do the boost. At least that's what it looks to me after reading your conversations with him. I've never seen a 1000$ boost process take 4 lines of converstaion, even though i myself sold more than 1000 boosts in 3 years, people normally discuss these things and want to make sure everything is according to plan before they proceed. But in this case you can see how easily he offers 500$ as if its 50$ traade and just hopes that you agree to do this free boost as he has no intentions of paying you anyways.

I could be wrong, but I think this guy has never intended to pay you 500$ because from what I know it's also a lot of money for such boost (i do respect everyone's pricing on his job etc etc, but i know that on epicnpc people here are just cutting prices left and right when they see competitors) and it normally costs less, but he could as well offer you 5000$ just because you agreed to do boost without upfront payment. And now we seem him dodging Admin requests to provide proof and this will most likely cause him a ban, but you will still lose the time you wasted on this guy and customers you could have gotten while your thread was jailed. Maybe this will serve you as a lesson for your future trades.

@ZerefDragneelZF There is nothing wrong with your account. You keep avoiding showing screenshots with timestamps of the blizzard email which you claim to be a 'back up email for my battle.net' account.
Your account isn't permanently banned, its just a mute for 1 day that you valued at 350$? (40$ you want refunded originally and 310$ that you owe now). We also saw that another booster has finished the 200 SR boost, so that means your account is in good shape still. So what is your problem now? You think getting 800 SR boost for free is okay just because you falsely claim that your account was muted for 1 day?

[h=1]@rmik | ROADTO7K.COM[/h]
Just ignorance and greed really. It was a huge mistake and I certainly won't do it again.

It wasn't just 4 lines, we had talked for like a day or 2 before we wen't through with it. Regardless, I've done tons of boosts but I usually can't get people to give me feedback, and he was saying he didn't trust me because of that mainly.

I had no other big orders at the time so that's mainly why I did it. That and greed. I'll learn from this.

ARMIK · Jun 9, 2017

[MENTION=615745]Fishingman[/MENTION] Understood. Well it sucks to be honest. I hope you don't encounter the same kind of customers again and don't do the same mistakes you did this time.

Still no solid proof of account being muted provided

BigBrainBoosts · Jun 9, 2017

@rmik | ROADTO7K.COM

I think this case is closed

https://gyazo.com/296ad396e50e288bfe9fa27c5d623136

is there any way I can get my negative trade review removed? I think its pretty obvious this guy was trying to get free boosting out of me.

ZerefDragneelZF · Jun 9, 2017

Nibba youre autistic [MENTION=615745]Fishingman[/MENTION] and [MENTION=366199]mods[/MENTION]

ARMIK · Jun 9, 2017

banned
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ZerefDragneelZF

[MENTION=615745]Fishingman[/MENTION] - Feedback removed, thread restored.

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