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Migi seller reclaimed account after sale.

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Presidenchill

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Information
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Purchase Date: February 28th 2019
Date the problem began: January 3rd 2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] BeHumbleFriends#8324 and psychic abilities$4409
Your Instant Messenger ID: Presidenchill#9970

Other information: He has multiple epicnpc accounts


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/diamond-4-na-161-skins-all-champs-160.1403550/
Approximate value of property: $150.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about? Seller reclaimed the account that was sold to me.

Other details / notes: User spoke to me on discord after the fact and acted like he had no idea what I was talking about.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

This is his discord info
the email is the same as the paypal screenshot [email protected]

this is the reddit post that migi account linked me to that has the name BeHumbleFriends in the post (BeHumbleFriends is Migi
this is a screenshot of the other discord that BeHumbleFriends uses that connected me to a migi thread https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/diamond-4-na-161-skins-all-champs-160.1403550/
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):


Other proof:

op.gg of account name change to Yuzu https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ˆYuzuˆ Yuzu being the same name that migi who must also be Oombreon asked me to discord here https://imgur.com/v53Q0cw

this is a picture of the sale thread just in case he tries to edit it. you can see where he claims his discord to be a yuzu name.

https://www.epicnpc.com/members/migi.194733/ this member and this member https://www.epicnpc.com/members/oombreon.509430/ are either the same person or work together. I've bought accounts from oombreon and migi


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No, he lied and said he got the account from someone else.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) he didnt because he told it to me over a call.
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
 
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the messed up part is he literally called me on discord the other day and attempted to sell me an account half off

 
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He answers on discord at BeHumbleFriends#8324
 
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I need to be understood that these type of people attempt to build relationships. not that I fell for it. But I had a full understanding that if I buy an account from someone without Trade Guardian affords the type of trust that can be exploited. At the same time, I refuse to see him do this to anyone else. Theres a due diligence to let other people know whats going on.
 
@Presidenchill you previously stated that recalled account was purchased from migi. In the previous deleted thread I can see that the same dispute was opened against Oombreon .

From I can see you purchased accounts from both https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/244-skins-all-champs-g1.1423891/ https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/diamond-4-na-161-skins-all-champs-160.1403550/

The payment email provided via image [email protected] belongs to migi.

For what you are accusing Oombreon? I can't find any connections between them and even they are friends we can't ban both because knowing someone is not a crime.
 
I understand this, so I will direct my accusation towards migi. I just don't see oombreon not being guilty in some way rather being the same person or being a friend. When the case against oombreon was closed, and he signed to see the accusation, he also the same as migi did not respond in due course. In my opinion, an innocent party, be it oombreon, would have replied to the accusation when it was made. He did not. I do not believe it to be coincidence that the oombreon is known for carrying the name Yuzu, and migi just happens to be the account that is now naming the recalled account yuzu. That's the only connection I can make. If banning migi suffices, I will accept that retribution, but I have a strong feeling that these two are connected in some way
 
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During discord chats, migi doesn't deny being oombreon, he does not question being oombreon either. At this point I cannot connect these two accounts other than the exact name Yuzu being used. I know that that is not enough to incriminate them being the same person. Ty
 
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When the discord of yuzu Givin by oombreon could not be reached, I was instructed to contact psychic abilities discord. That same account instructed me to contact bebumblefriends which is the account of migi.
 
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Oombreon yuzu discord distinguished in the screenshot didn't work. So I was told to contact psychic abilities discord whch informed me to contact bebumblefriends discord. I was sold an account by psychic abilities AND bebumblefriends discord within the same time frame
 
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