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Member dispute - gshater

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att911

Level 69

Trade Guardian Orders: 31

(100%) (29 reviews)
Country
Thailand
Member Since
Dec 8, 2015
Country
Thailand
Multiple Accounts
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Information
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Purchase Date: July 27, 2020
Date the problem begain: August 12, 2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: long#3207 who is @gshater on epicnpc.com
Your Instant Messenger ID: att911-alternaive#7585

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/god...ml-5-crazy-gears-global.1667358/#post-6939014
Approximate value of property: $1,000.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No

What is the dispute about?

I bought an account from @gshater on July 27, 2020 for an Epic 7 account for $1,000 and I really enjoyed playing it.
I was intending on keeping the account for myself to play however 1-2 weeks later, @UncleChris offered me a deal of $2,200 which I accepted.
I sold him the account on August 4th, 2020 and he changed the password, recovery email as well as his phone number on the account.
He has had full control of the account since August 4, 2020.
I will provide screen shots and evidence of the account transfer details.

It wasnt until this afternoon, August 12, 2020 that I got a message from @UncleChris which he said that the account's password has been changed.
I handed @UncleChris all the account details on August 4, 2020.

I went to check on my alternative Discord which was were I made the purchase from the original seller @gshater. To my suprise the original seller ( @gshater ) seemed upset that I sold his account for a higher market value.
I havent checked my alternative Discord since that day due to my busy work schedule.
The original seller @gshater sent me several messages on Discord and he seemed very upset that I sold his account for a higher value.
I was not aware of this until this afternoon when I heard the news from @UncleChris which made me want to check my alternative discord.

I will provide all the evidence that I fully transfered and handed the account to @UncleChris as well as my conversation with the original seller @gshater

From my perspective, the only person that can recover the account is @gshater
I have been on epicnpc for a very long time and is a well known, verified, reputable seller who fully obeys all the rules and regulations of this website.
As a seller like @gshater, this is an unacceptable behavior.

Since @UncleChris has filed a dispute against me, however as stated, he has full possession of the account since August 4, 2020.
I request that @gshater needs to return the account.
I have been trading accounts on your webpage due to the sole reason that I feel is a safe, welcoming and friendly environment to make transacions.

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to me.

Thank you,
att911


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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): Will provide my chat between @gshater and @UncleChris
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): Payment send via paypal.
 

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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Ok so whats the issue here? No pw has been recovered. He has all the info and i removed gmail from my account. Obviously if this convo he copy and pasted on "one" of several discords he owns show he is already dishonest. He swear he not going to resell. Which its his account now. His bussiness but does in a week after low ball for 2700. So i don't see the issue here. Or how i would have the password?
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
I don't see any anger in his screen shots. I have multpie people discord for account and say why did i sell to a dirty flipper. I don't care personally. I was actually helping att flip for more. With in 2 hours i told him about a guy on discord asking me for his info to buy 1200$. Does that seem mad? And ill get that convo if I must. I was more mad that i been kind and reply to his dms. And weirdo questions. But when i applaud him for selling 2700$ , he ignores me. And reason i ask was cause if it didnt sell . i had a guy say he was willing to offer 2400$. Also check the dates on screen shots. Lol. Should say enough
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Also how i would i recover 2 weeks later after att has had the. Info linked to his google that long?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/

Here are some screen shots. So you judge. Do i seem mad or helpful? It's strange that when he sells. Issues happen? Weeks later? Also i dont play e7 anymore. He does. I think this is more of issue between him and "his" buyer. How is any of this on me?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
The guy is even lieing about price paid. He paid 950$. Puts 1000$. Also he claims he wants to keep account but got offered 2200 usd? He made a thread. How is that not wanting to sell? i knew nothing about thread till someone who wanted to buy if from him told me. Look at my screen shots. So we caught ATT in multiple lies. To make worse he still buying many e7 games so this shows his true intentions. Which i have zero issues with. But i bring up to prove this guy is a liar. I sold a account linked to personal email but never recovered it. So please clear my name
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Many points you made are clearly all mis-information. Did you even read my post as well as take a look at my screenshots?
You are just making things up and having accusations about me without even knowing your own facts.
1) If I had an alternative account and you think this is made up evidence, please take a look at the date and show me your screenshots between us on July 27.
2) At which point did I 'swear' I will keep it? And wasnt it you who said near the end of our conversation that I can play it and flip it?
3) Did you even read the price? Its not 2.7k
4) I clearly stated that I was not able to get to your messages since it is my alternative discord and I work in the ER and have been super busy lately so I cant check my phone.
5) Nice accusations in your last post about my multiple lies? Just to point to these 6 points, all your sayings are full of lies and misguidance.
6) You recovered the account since only you know the e-mail details and as @UncleChris eluded to, you contacted customer service of Google. When I bought the account from you I was hesitant due to a big transaction, However, I trusted on your high feedback and did not think you would recover the account you sold me. Guess sellers have different morale standards.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Many points you made are clearly all mis-information. Did you even read my post as well as take a look at my screenshots?
You are just making things up and having accusations about me without even knowing your own facts.
1) If I had an alternative account and you think this is made up evidence, please take a look at the date and show me your screenshots between us on July 27.
2) At which point did I 'swear' I will keep it? And wasnt it you who said near the end of our conversation that I can play it and flip it?
3) Did you even read the price? Its not 2.7k
4) I clearly stated that I was not able to get to your messages since it is my alternative discord and I work in the ER and have been super busy lately so I cant check my phone.
5) Nice accusations in your last post about my multiple lies? Just to point to these 6 points, all your sayings are full of lies and misguidance.
6) You recovered the account since only you know the e-mail details and as @UncleChris eluded to, you contacted customer service of Google. When I bought the account from you I was hesitant due to a big transaction, However, I trusted on your high feedback and did not think you would recover the account you sold me. Guess sellers have different morale standards.

1. I'm talking about the price you bought account for. 950$ not 1000$.
2. I truly don't care if you flip. I even tried helping you multiple times. Correct? I told you don't care. but you're accusing me of " being mad" and recovery of account.
3. I am being accused here. Im just stating why I'm more trustworthy. You have had this account 3 weeks. You sell it then accuse me asap. Before questioning buyer. That makes me think you are dishonest.
4. I don't have account on my gmail. I don't have e7 app. Nor multiple threads of e7 accounts. Why would i recover?
5. To be clear. I dont care, zero cares if you flip account. A deal is a deal. Its yours. But the fact you claim you want it so bad. You not selling it. Its a gem, ask personal questions. Then make a thread to sell before a week shows your true intentions. You are clearly comfortable lieing. I don't mind the hustle brother. But accusing me? With out a dm? Seems beyond fishy here. Quite frankly this is "your account" your choice to keep or sell. So this is "your problem" not mine. I just want my name cleared. I don't even have accounts up. But this is princle and morals. You showed lack of that accusing in 3 seconds, not questioning me or the buyer before doing so.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
You made this guarantee . right? So you are pretty much accusing me with zero proof? You also changed the recovery and phone from what your own pictures show.

This is your issue 1000% . i dont see how i could possibly recover. Yet alone do this 3 weeks later. After 2 phone transfers. This is all on you sir.
 

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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Here. amazing proof! It says account has been logged into apple device. I dont own apple. Check alll my threads. All andriod. Its improtant for tales of crestoria to make this clear. Nice try att.
 
Summary
July 27th account was sold to @att911
August 4th att911 sold the account to UncleChris
August 12th UncleChris reported that the account is recalled and recovery data changed

By this, att911 has no ability to recall the Gmail account. To become trusted on some device Gmail account requires 28 days or more to be logged on the same device and both last owners were logged much less. Also, I can't see the motive why att911 would try to recall the account and cause the mess when he already easily earned double profit by selling him.

@gshater the screenshots you provide does not have the value since you can recover the account even after you changed recovery email, added a phone number and activated 2FA. I honestly believe that you were mad at yourself because you sold the account far under real value and because of that decided to revenge att911 because he breaks his promise that he will keep the account and not going to sell. I am going to appeal on your goodwill to return the account to the new owner and we will try to forget on all this.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Summary
July 27th account was sold to @att911
August 4th att911 sold the account to UncleChris
August 12th UncleChris reported that the account is recalled and recovery data changed

By this, att911 has no ability to recall the Gmail account. To become trusted on some device Gmail account requires 28 days or more to be logged on the same device and both last owners were logged much less. Also, I can't see the motive why att911 would try to recall the account and cause the mess when he already easily earned double profit by selling him.

@gshater the screenshots you provide does not have the value since you can recover the account even after you changed recovery email, added a phone number and activated 2FA. I honestly believe that you were mad at yourself because you sold the account far under real value and because of that decided to revenge att911 because he breaks his promise that he will keep the account and not going to sell. I am going to appeal on your goodwill to return the account to the new owner and we will try to forget on all this.

Thank you Angel for understanding and seeing the light regarding this situation.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Summary
July 27th account was sold to @att911
August 4th att911 sold the account to UncleChris
August 12th UncleChris reported that the account is recalled and recovery data changed

By this, att911 has no ability to recall the Gmail account. To become trusted on some device Gmail account requires 28 days or more to be logged on the same device and both last owners were logged much less. Also, I can't see the motive why att911 would try to recall the account and cause the mess when he already easily earned double profit by selling him.

@gshater the screenshots you provide does not have the value since you can recover the account even after you changed recovery email, added a phone number and activated 2FA. I honestly believe that you were mad at yourself because you sold the account far under real value and because of that decided to revenge att911 because he breaks his promise that he will keep the account and not going to sell. I am going to appeal on your goodwill to return the account to the new owner and we will try to forget on all this.
I don't own a apple phone. Look at all my threads. All android. I never had 2fa actived. What makes you say this? My screen shots show i wasnt caring about flip and actully was telling other buyers to flip for more. Yet i have another post were i sell 4k account for 500$ look at all my low prices. Zero issues. Don't be fooled but this guy.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Also why wouldn't the new buyer be in question? Your logic is very poor here. To be honest this is his problem regaurdless. I swear i never recovered. So i dont know what i can do. If me getting marked with no proof . ill galdy just screen shot this and let public make there choices. My threads and discord clients are proof enough of my honesty and fair prices. But if. You want to judge me and not att or his buyer. Whats this say about you? How about you look at my history. Low prices cause i make money in real life. So why would i be mad? Like please legit look at me great deals. Why would a guy who works in "er" need to flip accounts full time?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
I don't own a apple phone. Look at all my threads. All android. I never had 2fa actived. What makes you say this? My screen shots show i wasnt caring about flip and actully was telling other buyers to flip for more. Yet i have another post were i sell 4k account for 500$ look at all my low prices. Zero issues. Don't be fooled but this guy.
Your answers are just full of assumptions and dont hold weight.
Point 3) which you stated I have had this account for 3 weeks, @Angel clearly stated as well as my evidence shows that I've had the account for one week and @UncleChris had the account for 1 week.

Point 5) I dont really understand your position, at one point you mention about a deal is a deal and you dont mind me selling it. And at the next line you conflict what you said and get emotional when I sold the account. Also, I have spoken with the buyer on several occasions regarding the account recovery. I do not have the power to do so since all information was handed over to @UncleChris. And as @Angel eluded to, which I strongly agree with, only you had the motive and ability to recover the account.

Also, shows how low you are willing to go in judging someone who works in the ER that I do this as a hobby? Do you need proof for that as well that I am in the medical field?
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
His reply to my Discord:
 

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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Whatever bro. You obviously lieing. Angel just look at history of deals. All android and all great deals. I have no reason to be mad about flips. I do got reason to be mad about lies but being attacked with no proof. **** is ridiculous. You throw dirt on my name with zero proof. There was no 2way active. I own zero apple devices. Done 60 deals zero issues.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
I sold for my friend. Which he didn't recover. From the chat this is known. Thats why im telling you im positive no recovery was made.
 
Ok so you keep mentioning the apple/android thing. That is me, I use an ipad. And as Angel has said, att911 doesn’t have the means to recover the account since he isn’t the original owner. As for me, there is no reason for me to lie because it can easily be disproved by the original owner who can recover the gmail email by contacting customer support.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Thats fine. Chris i truly ferl bad for you. I'll try everthing in my power to help you. I'm in contact with friend. Trying to help . he telling he legit hasnt even used that gmail. So ill try hard. It was only reasonable to question all 3 parties, correct? This guy claims im mad at a flip when i legit tried to help with flipping. How does this make sense? Honestly. Im doing this to help you. He is the the one who did deal and guarantee lifetime deal. But ill help you as much as possible
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Ok im messaging my friend when wakes up. Feel free to add discord. And are we sure that att can't just recover?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Thank you. Im gon a contact my friend with this. I highy highy doubt he would do this. Are we positive att cant recover account?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
This is the screenshot from my end when I provided @UncleChris all the login details and security on August 4.
 

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Yeah you’ll get that email just from removing the number. I removed your phone number but I didn’t add a new one because I didn’t want to put my personal number on someone elses’ email
 
@gshater I went to the thread where you sold the account and found that at the top of the page it clearly says “Original Owner: Yes” and in the thread you also wrote “Day 1 account. Original”. So you were either falsely advertising that you were the original owner or you’re contradicting what you’re telling us here
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Ok thank you @Angel. As a matter of fact, I've even invested $200-300 on the account.
I have attached my purchase details below:
 

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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Yes i was selling for my friend. The chat makes this clear. Its oblivious angel is turning a blind eye to this. If. You want my help you may discord me. Im done talking to scum on here.

No one but my friend has own account. Day since launch. Days login on game prove this. How is this a lie? But ATT got caught in 4 lies but thats not enough proof. Smh.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Yes i was selling for my friend. The chat makes this clear. Its oblivious angel is turning a blind eye to this. If. You want my help you may discord me. Im done talking to scum on here.

No one but my friend has own account. Day since launch. Days login on game prove this. How is this a lie? But ATT got caught in 4 lies but thats not enough proof. Smh.

All you do is make statements without facts and nothing you say hold any value.
Both me and my buyer have provided concrete evidence.

Your statement saying I've been caught with 4 lies?
At this point its pretty obvious to me you are just making things up along the way.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Im not talking to you. I got ss of your other discord btw. But this thread means nothing. Uncke chris you need help ? discord me. I got screen shots of my friends gmail. Screen shot of it never being 2 way linked. Ect ect. But most of alll ill try to see if he can recover account easy. This is all new to me so hopefully its as "easy" as they say.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
Im not talking to you. I got ss of your other discord btw. But this thread means nothing. Uncke chris you need help ? discord me. I got screen shots of my friends gmail. Screen shot of it never being 2 way linked. Ect ect. But most of alll ill try to see if he can recover account easy. This is all new to me so hopefully its as "easy" as they say.
I've posted all our discord conversation.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
You did. Bro dont you got a er to be at? Or is your hobby mlre important? Gtfo scammer.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/bought-account-from-an-account-re-seller-but-the-original-owner-recovered-acct.1678038/
You did. Bro dont you got a er to be at? Or is your hobby mlre important? Gtfo scammer.
You obviously don't know how ER works, so let me enlighten you. The job is shift work.
Both me and my buyer have provided concrete evidence.
This is a waste of my time talking to a low moral standard seller, who scams and recovers back an account which you have sold.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
Yes. Im a nurse. Yet i don't know how it works. And i sell low price cause i got money. While this seems to be your living. Keep scamming brother. Food stamps yum yum.
 
@gshater I don’t want to drag this out any longer. At this point it is very obvious to all parties who has viewed the evidence provided on this thread that you are the one who recovered the account. Regardless of who the original owner is, the fact is that you have sold the account under your own name and said that you are the original owner in your sale thread. Therefore you are the one responsible to remedy this situation. Now either you give back the account or you refund the money to @att911 and he refunds me.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/member-dispute-gshater.1678076/
@gshater I don’t want to drag this out any longer. At this point it is very obvious to all parties who has viewed the evidence provided on this thread that you are the one who recovered the account. Regardless of who the original owner is, the fact is that you have sold the account under your own name and said that you are the original owner in your sale thread. Therefore you are the one responsible to remedy this situation. Now either you give back the account or you refund the money to @att911 and he refunds me.
Ok then you are on your own. There is absolutely zero proof. Cause i didnt recover. And guess what. I sold account then att has it for weeks then you have for a few days then something happens? You bought account on here off him. This is your problem now. As i said look through my threads. I can message someone i sold account with MY PERSONAL EMAIL. So i never gave him pw. A year ago. And never recovered. Why would i ruin my perfect rep? You two made a deal. No mm. So you can deal with now that you refused help. Buh bye
 
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Here epicnpc staff. I pointed out sooo many lies. I prove i had zero anger for flipping account. We both can't prove for fact what happen. But here. Att claims he and unclechris are friends. But in screen shots it "seems" like they don't know each other. Look at this picture. So regaurdless if they are in on it together. (Att has multiple discords). Or they are telling the truth. I never recovered. And its his deal, zero mm, his "friend". I had zero to do. With this.
 

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I think that you missed the point of what I previously said. In the original thread, you clearly stated that you are the original account owner [and you are not], so this is false advertising and you automatically lose this dispute.
We cant prove from whom did you purchased this account and how many owners were before you. Maybe is one of them who recalled the account I don't know and I am not going to search because you are the one who is responsible for what you sell.
You are free to point with a finger on the"friend" who sold you the account. From what I know this person already has the account here since you used his Paypal for the payment. I am not sure why do you miss to mention that

Who is @Ryrygro and what is your relation with him? Why did you not use your own Paypal account for payment?
 
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Its a original owner. He doesn't have epicnpc. I made it clear when i sold. You are missing the point. Att made a thread. With a garantee. You pointing finger at me is ridiculous. Why does this guy get caught lie after lie after lie . makes a thread with garantee. But you try to make this my issue. No sir. Plus its not weird that as soon as he sells it gets recovered? I been showing this to people. They all seem to side with me. Lets just make this public. Let buyers decide who they trust. I coukd care less. I never recovered period. Even worse you can't prove this cause its not true. 2nd do you understand what the word "guarantee" means? This is his problem now
 
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Its a original owner. He doesn't have epicnpc. I made it clear when i sold. You are missing the point. Att made a thread. With a garantee. You pointing finger at me is ridiculous. Why does this guy get caught lie after lie after lie . makes a thread with garantee. But you try to make this my issue. No sir. Plus its not weird that as soon as he sells it gets recovered? I been showing this to people. They all seem to side with me. Lets just make this public. Let buyers decide who they trust. I coukd care less. I never recovered period. Even worse you can't prove this cause its not true. 2nd do you understand what the word "guarantee" means? This is his problem now
How could I possibly recover the account when I had the account for only 1 week?
I provided evidence that I handed off the account to @UncleChris

Also, please read this once more. At this point it is clear you've recovered the account.

"By this, att911 has no ability to recall the Gmail account. To become trusted on some device Gmail account requires 28 days or more to be logged on the same device and both last owners were logged much less. Also, I can't see the motive why att911 would try to recall the account and cause the mess when he already easily earned double profit by selling him.

@gshater the screenshots you provide does not have the value since you can recover the account even after you changed recovery email, added a phone number and activated 2FA. I honestly believe that you were mad at yourself because you sold the account far under real value and because of that decided to revenge att911 because he breaks his promise that he will keep the account and not going to sell. I am going to appeal on your goodwill to return the account to the new owner and we will try to forget on all this."
 
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Yes. I read this. You can still recover. Or be in on this with your " friend".

Its pretty clear i not mad about the account being flipped. I showed prove of me trying to help you make more. You going ghost is more fishy.

The bottom line. We had zero issues. You sold. With a garantee. This is now your issue. This is a fact. No one in the World can say otherwise. If buy a game off ebay. Then sell it to someone with a "garantee" . i can't go back to ebay and say you pay for it. You arent getting nothing from me period. I didn't recover period. I don't know what else i can say. But make this public. Im sure people would trust buying off me a lot more. Not paying for something i didnt do. Out of my control. You made garantee not me. @Angel i know you realize that he made garantee. That means he is in charge of refund. Account ect ect. Or that my friend is false advertising.
 
Its a original owner. He doesn't have epicnpc. I made it clear when i sold.

Where you made it clear? In your thread is clearly shown that you are the original owner
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Its a original owner. He doesn't have epicnpc.

This is not true. Here is a member who using the Paypal email where you received the payment so if you claim that [email protected] email belongs to the original owner then this is the above-mentioned @Ryrygro who is also a known seller on another website.
 
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