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Las Noches refusing to give what i paid for

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Scam Accusation

EloRocketBoosting

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United States
Multiple Accounts
1
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-by-elorocketboosting.1639832/
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Purchase Date:6/23/18
Date the problem begain:6/23/18
Method of Contact Used (chat progam):Discord
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Instant Messenger username of the person you are accusing: [EvilSnowy (on discord)]

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):
Approximate value of property: $50.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? If so, what is the TG ID# No

What is the dispute about? Refusing to give me either a refund, or account information that I have already paid for.

Other details / notes:So a little backstory. I tried purchasing the account from him a night before. I sent the payment through paypal as friends and family however since he is overseas the payment was on hold on HIS end. However on my end the transaction was completed. He didnt like that it was on hold I guess and i asked to refund me the money which he did. The next day we try again hoping it will go through instantly. I once again sent the payment as friends and family however, once again, the money was put on hold on his end and completed on my end. I then asked him since the money was on hold if I could play the account WITHOUT giving me the original email so in the end he still has control over the account, and I could just play on it till money goes through the hold. After about an hour he finally agrees and gives me the account info. About 5 minutes later the password changes. *surprise*. I contacted him immediately and starts accusing ME of changing the password even though im pretty sure it is impossible without the original email. I tell him its very easy to change the pass if you have the original email and just by luck he is locked out of his own gmail account. At this point it was 7 AM and I told him I was going to bed. I clearly state that in the morning I better have A.) a full refund on the purchase, or B.) Account details. I wake up and around 1pm and PM him, some time goes by and no response. He finally DMs me back saying "call me" which I do, and no answer. He comes back to discord for about 2 seconds, dms me, then just afks. And now we are here.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): https://i.imgur.com/8ojJvCR.png <- Proof of said amount

https://i.imgur.com/8msuq4l.png <- he lets me on the account to check the skins. Everything looks fine and i proceed to pay him.

https://i.imgur.com/TE0HTeV.png Here we try to do increments of 10 to see if it still goes on hold, to no success.

https://i.imgur.com/B6dqS3I.png We try again the second night and same thing.

https://i.imgur.com/KLURPIP.png Here I show the money is completed on my end and agrees to let me play on the account without full access email.

https://i.imgur.com/ljERx2P.png Still wont give me the accccount even thought ive paid, at this point i ask for a refund and he says he'll cancel it here: https://i.imgur.com/1u9Gt3e.png

https://i.imgur.com/sdmEz7w.png At this point im getting irritated, Wont refund or give me the account, I send him more proof i sent the payment and its completed.

https://i.imgur.com/CaHyhiw.png More excuses

https://i.imgur.com/AKtWh3Q.png here its 6 Am and im really tired and he agrees to give me the account without full access. The account works when i log in until after about 5 minutes here: https://i.imgur.com/xohJXF0.png https://i.imgur.com/QrRjqq1.png

https://i.imgur.com/28SEbmY.png here he says he cant access the original gmail account. and says he will refund rn. WHich he doesnt


https://i.imgur.com/anUwUev.png, here he starts accusing me of changing the pw, which i dont have the email so not sure how that works out.

https://i.imgur.com/Q0iH4Mb.png, keeps afking.

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof: https://i.imgur.com/3P6WkR6.png this is the first night we tried to make the exchange and he refunded, No problem here

https://i.imgur.com/1Tn4B0k.png this is the 2nd night where i still HAVE NOT received my refund for the account. THe emails are seperate because the first time we tried doing it on his main and the 2nd time we tried using his paypal email where i guess he takes all his transactions

Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he is the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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Password change is possible wihtout email access, but the owner can always recover it using the email access.

Las Noches you owe a refund of 50$ and you have 24 hours to do so.

Your false claims will not be tolerated here and you will be banned upon failing to refund the victim.

If refund isn't given, please send a paypal chargeback dispute and have his account locked.


As always, we do not recommend sending money first to people that have no reputation here and we advice to use Middleman service to minimize your chances of getting scammed.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-by-elorocketboosting.1639832/
Unfortunately I sent as F and F so I won’t be able to dispute on PP

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Las Noches has replied and told me that he can not refund the money as it is in hold. Giving him till the 27th and then you can ban him. https://i.imgur.com/AMNgjFX.png
 
He needs to post a screenshot of him being unable to refund it. A refund is possible even for payments on hold I believe.

All threads jailed until the dispute is resolved.
 
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