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Edvinasi

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Information
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Purchase Date: didnt get scammed but want to report a scam scheme and epicnpc mod who prettend to be middleman.
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): -----------
Approximate value of item/service: $700 USD
Date the problem began: 2023-04-29

Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site?
- If off-site, what website or chat? discord and epicnpc chat
--- What was your username? edvinasi
--- What was the username of the other person?

GoodGuyFollow_theRULE https://www.epicnpc.com/members/goodguyfollow_therule.914311/

also he claims in his account hes a middleman and dont have nitro but he does. He has revealed his indentity in screenshot of proof 2 and 3.


DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about?
I wanted to purchase an account, the seller told me he want to use epicnpc middleman, when i accepted in discord chat, epicnpc middleman wrote me in epicnpc account confirming his middleman and mod identity, but asked me to do this without trade guardian, becouse tradeguardian for some reason dont accept crypto. When i said i want other middlemen i worked with to confirm this, they created a fake middleman copy with nitro and tried to convince me. since i noticed its a scam i want to report it and at least ban the epicnpc mod who helps the scams.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
1. seller pretended to have an account
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2. i was contacted by his epicnpc mod middleman
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3. discord middleman made proof its him on epicnpc, writting me an official identification message its him. also if you check his account he say he have no nitro but he does.
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4. they offered me to do without trade guardian offsite.
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5. i said unless there ir proof i wont do it, look too
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.

Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Someone using nitro and someone not are two different tags. This is an elaborate scam tactic that they use to trick the mod and the normal user. None of our staff will ever MM off-site nor will any if our MMs. Discord is a terrible platform as you can easily make two discord IDs look the same. Keep conversations on-site as we do not investigate discord disputes.
 
in 3rd proof picture, he confirmed his epicnpc indentity pming me on epicnpc, so beware of scammer and if possible take action
 
Information
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Purchase Date: didnt get scammed but want to report a scam scheme and epicnpc mod who prettend to be middleman.
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): -----------
Approximate value of item/service: $700 USD
Date the problem began: 2023-04-29

Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site?
- If off-site, what website or chat? discord and epicnpc chat
--- What was your username? edvinasi
--- What was the username of the other person?

GoodGuyFollow_theRULE https://www.epicnpc.com/members/goodguyfollow_therule.914311/

also he claims in his account hes a middleman and dont have nitro but he does. He has revealed his indentity in screenshot of proof 2 and 3.


DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about?
I wanted to purchase an account, the seller told me he want to use epicnpc middleman, when i accepted in discord chat, epicnpc middleman wrote me in epicnpc account confirming his middleman and mod identity, but asked me to do this without trade guardian, becouse tradeguardian for some reason dont accept crypto. When i said i want other middlemen i worked with to confirm this, they created a fake middleman copy with nitro and tried to convince me. since i noticed its a scam i want to report it and at least ban the epicnpc mod who helps the scams.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
1. seller pretended to have an account

2. i was contacted by his epicnpc mod middleman

3. discord middleman made proof its him on epicnpc, writting me an official identification message its him. also if you check his account he say he have no nitro but he does.


4. they offered me to do without trade guardian offsite.




5. i said unless there ir proof i wont do it, look too






Account Recalls
######################
Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.

Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
it's not me, it's someone using nitro pretending to be me
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
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1. that is true that im sending a confirmation code to him from discord to epicnpc, but the rest of the chat is not me its manipulated
2. my discord name is not whitics, but Axonide
3. all of the screenshoots above are manipulated
4. I'm not using nitro on my Discord
 
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1. that is true that im sending a confirmation code to him from discord to epicnpc, but the rest of the chat is not me its manipulated
2. my discord name is not whitics, but Axonide
3. all of the screenshoots above are manipulated
also i never said that im official epicnpc MM, im just a local moderator
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Someone using nitro and someone not are two different tags. This is an elaborate scam tactic that they use to trick the mod and the normal user. None of our staff will ever MM off-site nor will any if our MMs. Discord is a terrible platform as you can easily make two discord IDs look the same. Keep conversations on-site as we do not investigate discord disputes.
all of the chat history still remains in discord, u can log in and check on my discord to see what is really happening
also the transaction is not happening at all
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
From the start someone with the same profile picture and discord name is adding me, but the friend request is suddenly canceled
that's why i said "someone with the same discord id is adding me" on the first screenshoot.
And by the end of the chat the sale is not made at all, the buyer is no buying my account.


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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
1. that is true that im sending a confirmation code to him from discord to epicnpc, but the rest of the chat is not me its manipulated

he even admited its him, and sent the discord chat that its him, very smart move , also he edited the screenshots the chat wasn't even about that game, its was about lost ark.

i dont think u need more proof to take action against him.
 
1. that is true that im sending a confirmation code to him from discord to epicnpc, but the rest of the chat is not me its manipulated

he even admited its him, and sent the discord chat that its him, very smart move , also he edited the screenshots the chat wasn't even about that game, its was about lost ark.

i dont think u need more proof to take action against him.
i dont know why u are doing this to me, i will just be here anytime to answer any question from the current mod in charge
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
people beware of this guy, somebody in charge of this kinda of cases, can check my inbox i allow it on epicnpc and confirm its true, i think he spent much time editing those screenshots now :D cuz it was only about lost ark not multiple games.

i am informing that he starts the convo on discord, then proves hes legit on epicnpc on site writting pm from this account, and try to scam offsite again, i mean if epicnpc allow this kinda of behavior on their website let it be, just informing people to beware, if they dont allow their website to be used as scam tool, this person need to be banned or taken some action in this case, because i provided proof on epicnpc inside, and outside.
 
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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
people beware of this guy, somebody in charge of this kinda of cases, can check my inbox i allow it on epicnpc and confirm its true, i think he spent much time editing those screenshots now :D cuz it was only about lost ark not multiple games.

i am informing that he starts the convo on discord, then proves hes legit on epicnpc on site writting pm from this account, and try to scam offsite again, i mean if epicnpc allow this kinda of behavior on their website let it be, just informing people to beware, if they dont allow their website to be used as scam tool, this person need to be banned or taken some action in this case, because i provided proof on epicnpc inside, and outside.
I am going to explain the scam as both of you were unaware of how this scam works.

A scammer uses one account to contact you.

They use another account impersonating you to message the mod on discord.

They get the mod to send you a code on the website. That you sent to the mod impersonator on discord. Or vice versa as it can work both ways.

Both of you are talking to the scammer and do not actually speak with each other.

None of our staff or MM will ever do off-site MM. Make sure to have conversations on-site as it avoids this entire issue.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
So you are saying the scammer made a fake of my discord too? and somehow worked around same code of indentification? well if its true i am sorry. Dont have anything personal just wanted to inform people not to get scammed, and that such scams exist, do not trade offsite if scammers tell you only insite.
 
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So you are saying the scammer made a fake of my discord too? and somehow worked around same code of indentification? well if its true i am sorry. Dont have anything personal just wanted to inform people not to get scammed, and that such scams exist, do not trade offsite if scammers tell you only insite.
This is how this scam works. Both of you are setup and tricked to believe that you are talking to each other while both of you are actually talking to the scammer that uses two accounts. They then use a code from either you or from the mod as it will work both ways as confirmation. Keep in mind they will know this as it is sent to them from either you or the mod. Depending on what method they use above. To which they can reply to you and use it to scam you.

I recommend having conversations take place on-site as it will completely make this scam impossible.
 
What Adoxia state is correct. That type of scam is less common, but still occurs. The scammer makes a duplicate account of both victims, then uses the "security code" trick to convince one party they're the real member.

1. We are not investigating any Discord scam reports. (since 2019)
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/discord-scams-we-will-no-longer-review-scam-reports.1533996/

2. We do not investigate any disputes unless Trade Guardian is used.

This warning is posted at the top of every single page of our website.
All Trade Guardian services are on Epicnpc, NEVER off-site, via email or on Discord. We do not investigate ANY off-site disputes, only if Trade Guardian is used.

I'm sorry you were scammed, but if you don't want to use Trade Guardian (we have a free service), you're on your own if you get scammed. We are not investigating non-Trade Guardian disputes. There's too many scammers on Discord and it's too easy to impersonate anyone you want. If you get scammed on Discord, please report it to Discord support not Epicnpc.
 
I didnt get scammed, there was an attempt, i never would agree offsite, so i made tread so people are more coutios, i was schocked that they had 3 ppl working on me, 1 was a seller, other was fake mod/middleman, and third one made a fake useeds middleman account to confirm its legit offsite as other middleman that i already used. so they kinda were inpersonating 3 people at once not counting the real mod too. feels high end scammers with with lots of effort
 
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