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Yes please refer to this post. https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/leminnno-dispute.2171513/#post-8199484
TLDR: acct was sold to pyro in September, it’s now mid feb and he got banned. Tried to say it got recovered. Changed story to it got banned. Told me yesterday he no longer has access but 2 days ago he told me it got recovered and before that he said it got banned. I am also not the original owner. I can’t be held responsible for this. Especially nearly 6 months down the road. Who knows what he did with the acct whether it got banned or he sold it or whatever it may be.
TLDR: acct was sold to pyro in September, it’s now mid feb and he got banned. Tried to say it got recovered. Changed story to it got banned. Told me yesterday he no longer has access but 2 days ago he told me it got recovered and before that he said it got banned. I am also not the original owner. I can’t be held responsible for this. Especially nearly 6 months down the road. Who knows what he did with the acct whether it got banned or he sold it or whatever it may be.
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I been busy with IRL stuff, so I didn't get a chance to post a reply,
So here how it went, I purchased the account on September 18,2022. After using it for 5month on the 25th of January i received an email saying that someone try to change the password on the account. 3 days after that the account got banned from Riot. I created 2 tickets to Riot asking for clarification, 3 weeks went by, and no reply came back.
I went ahead to EpicNPC site and begin give my feedback about this situation and @Simp757 contacted me through discord claiming that he didn't do anything and said that it was another person. He then went ahead and request for the password to the account to "let the MOD verify" which to now I'm unsure if that's true. Then when I tried to look for that message again, he then deleted it in discord.
After, that he then created a ticket to riot stating why the acct was banned, basically 1hr after he received the password from me, I was moving to a new apartment, so I only see the email popping up in my phone. (Picture included)
Even after he deleted the message, but my simple password was still there with the date, here the email ticket that he created while having the access to the acct
So yesterday was the 02/21/2022, I tried to log into the account through riot portal to check on the status of the ticket. However, it said the password was incorrect, even when I tried to change password through the binding email, it was changed also.
This is a scamming behavior on a multitude of many people. Basically, a cyber robbery.
Here's the email prove on the Jan25th, 2022, showing that someone trying to change the info on the account
Here's the email prove that I send in the tickets request for clarification 3days after the situation and the same day the acct was show "locked" (when log-in) and "Banned code: VAL 61" when I press the grayed out PLAY button
This is just a 250$ payment so I do know that to some people it's pocket change but it's the same reason why this might happen over and over again if the thief would simply create new EPICNPC ID and use VPN for their mischievous deed.
I hope the Staff and other player who reading this would take notes and improve on what could be done better for our trading platform in the future and prevent stuff like this happen to honest people who try to find a better gaming experience through our community.
Sincerely,
MrSushi
So here how it went, I purchased the account on September 18,2022. After using it for 5month on the 25th of January i received an email saying that someone try to change the password on the account. 3 days after that the account got banned from Riot. I created 2 tickets to Riot asking for clarification, 3 weeks went by, and no reply came back.
I went ahead to EpicNPC site and begin give my feedback about this situation and @Simp757 contacted me through discord claiming that he didn't do anything and said that it was another person. He then went ahead and request for the password to the account to "let the MOD verify" which to now I'm unsure if that's true. Then when I tried to look for that message again, he then deleted it in discord.
After, that he then created a ticket to riot stating why the acct was banned, basically 1hr after he received the password from me, I was moving to a new apartment, so I only see the email popping up in my phone. (Picture included)
Even after he deleted the message, but my simple password was still there with the date, here the email ticket that he created while having the access to the acct
So yesterday was the 02/21/2022, I tried to log into the account through riot portal to check on the status of the ticket. However, it said the password was incorrect, even when I tried to change password through the binding email, it was changed also.
This is a scamming behavior on a multitude of many people. Basically, a cyber robbery.
Here's the email prove on the Jan25th, 2022, showing that someone trying to change the info on the account
Here's the email prove that I send in the tickets request for clarification 3days after the situation and the same day the acct was show "locked" (when log-in) and "Banned code: VAL 61" when I press the grayed out PLAY button
This is just a 250$ payment so I do know that to some people it's pocket change but it's the same reason why this might happen over and over again if the thief would simply create new EPICNPC ID and use VPN for their mischievous deed.
I hope the Staff and other player who reading this would take notes and improve on what could be done better for our trading platform in the future and prevent stuff like this happen to honest people who try to find a better gaming experience through our community.
Sincerely,
MrSushi
Explain to me how I can create a ticket for riot support when I do not know the log in nor do I know your email nor can I recover the account if I’m not the original owner or have info regarding the recovery info? Also why would you block me if I were a scammer? That makes absolutely zero sense. I can’t scam an account I’m not a creator of. And you waited an entire month almost to bring this to our attention??? You claim It got recovered, you claim it’s banned, you claim you don’t have access, you claim you do have access. You changed your story literally 3+ times. And it’s 6 months post account sale. You could’ve hacked on the account to get it banned for all I know. And if it’s banned then you can’t even play on it? I’m confused as to what you are after, let alone a month after all of your issues started occurring. And at the end of the day, if the account were to be recovered, that’s a risk you take in the nature of buying virtual goods which is also why I did not mark “original owner” on my thread.
Also you messaged me stating you created tickets and were asking me recovery info for the account after I told you I’m not the original owner I wouldn’t know any of the answers. So that would prove why a ticket was made. Stop trying to play some bs card. If you had an issue you should’ve reached out Jan 25th not February 21st. Who knows what you did in the 6 months on the account and within that 1 month time span of “password reset” issues.
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Don’t know if discord dms are investigated but posting for proof incase they are in this case. The idea of me creating a support ticket on an account I do not know the info to any longer and don’t have access to the email that support would be responding to that is attached to the account doesn’t make sense. Take better responsibility in what you purchase. It’s been 6 months bud. I had the account for 2 months from the previous seller. There is absolutely zero possibility I can recover an account on a completely different IP address with no recovery info.
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Explain to me how I can create a ticket for riot support when I do not know the log in nor do I know your email nor can I recover the account if I’m not the original owner or have info regarding the recovery info?
-Through Riot ID portal, if you can log into the account, you can change the pass and the email binding right on there. You do know the ID login because you the one who gave it to me, the passcode you get from me when you tell me that "the mod need it to verify my acct" then you deleted in dis cord after
Also why would you block me if I were a scammer?
-I blocked you in discord because you can delete message there like you did with the password requested from me. I will now only deal with you scammer on here so it have proves.
And you waited an entire month almost to bring this to our attention???
-I waited because only 3 weeks after Riot did not response it when I reach out to the seller, which is you
you claim you don’t have access, you claim you do have access
- I never said i dont have access, if i dont then how could i give you the password "hoangnguyen1" for you to get into the account and changes it.
Again, you're a scammer and you know it. Please don't try to get your way out of it. There also report other players to me that you scam them as well.
robbing people on the internet isn't a good deed. You don't know who you're playing with.
-Through Riot ID portal, if you can log into the account, you can change the pass and the email binding right on there. You do know the ID login because you the one who gave it to me, the passcode you get from me when you tell me that "the mod need it to verify my acct" then you deleted in dis cord after
Also why would you block me if I were a scammer?
-I blocked you in discord because you can delete message there like you did with the password requested from me. I will now only deal with you scammer on here so it have proves.
And you waited an entire month almost to bring this to our attention???
-I waited because only 3 weeks after Riot did not response it when I reach out to the seller, which is you
you claim you don’t have access, you claim you do have access
- I never said i dont have access, if i dont then how could i give you the password "hoangnguyen1" for you to get into the account and changes it.
Again, you're a scammer and you know it. Please don't try to get your way out of it. There also report other players to me that you scam them as well.
robbing people on the internet isn't a good deed. You don't know who you're playing with.
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Hello @EpicNPC CM ,
I had received an Email back from Riot today, stating that this account is no longer in my control since the date that this guy changed the password / binding email.
Also, Riot team was nice enough to refund me on the money I spend on the account after I purchased it from this scammer.
This prove that he did tweak the password change / binding email after falsely claim that the "Mods needed my password to verify the integrity of the account", then deleted it in discord to make it looked like he didn't do anything to get the account "banned" from the first place.
I would like your thought on this matter where ever I would received a refund from him due to his scheme, or he should be banned from our community due to the act of scamming.
Sincerely
MrSushi
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I had received an Email back from Riot today, stating that this account is no longer in my control since the date that this guy changed the password / binding email.
Also, Riot team was nice enough to refund me on the money I spend on the account after I purchased it from this scammer.
This prove that he did tweak the password change / binding email after falsely claim that the "Mods needed my password to verify the integrity of the account", then deleted it in discord to make it looked like he didn't do anything to get the account "banned" from the first place.
I would like your thought on this matter where ever I would received a refund from him due to his scheme, or he should be banned from our community due to the act of scamming.
Sincerely
MrSushi
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Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that I literally have zero capability to recover the account if I’m not the original owner. You had issues an ENTIRE MONTH before even speaking to me. You made an entire feedback adjustment with your issue before even speaking to me. You then speak to me give me details of what is going on and THEN claim I took the account, when once again is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to change A) the password and B) the random bonded email with whatever you may used if I can’t access said email. Not to mention, all of this magically happened after you asked me what email I used on the account. Is that an attempt of you yourself trying to fake an email change? And if you lost access to the account, how the **** are you still emailing riot off of the account?
For the love of God, use your brain here dude. I’m not the original owner I can’t ****ing do that!
For the love of God, use your brain here dude. I’m not the original owner I can’t ****ing do that!
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Just to clarify, what does this thread have to do with the feedback?
Who is the original owner of the account, do they have an account here?
That is who I purchased the account from. At first, based on the information provided by Pyro, i figured the alleged OG owner whom was advertised on the deal thread from him, recovered the account. Then with pyro changing his story 69 different times, and still having access to the account that now is magically lost after I closed that thread, I had closed the thread because he didn’t recover it if pyro was still utilizing the account and it ended up just being banned. However within the time frame of that post the user ended up saying he advertised he was OG owner but ended up not actually being it. So essentially the account is banned and now lost into the Metaverse. Again nobody will know the except whoever has access (pyro) or the original owner.
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Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that I literally have zero capability to recover the account if I’m not the original owner
- I had explain this before:
"Explain to me how I can create a ticket for riot support when I do not know the log in nor do I know your email nor can I recover the account if I’m not the original owner or have info regarding the recovery info?
-Through Riot ID portal, if you can log into the account, you can change the pass and the email binding right on there. You do know the ID login because you the one who gave it to me, the passcode you get from me when you tell me that "the mod need it to verify my acct" then you deleted in dis cord after"
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You had issues an ENTIRE MONTH before even speaking to me
-I had also explain this before
"And you waited an entire month almost to bring this to our attention???
-I waited because only 3 weeks after Riot did not response it when I reach out to the seller, which is you"
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You then speak to me give me details of what is going on and THEN claim I took the account, when once again is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to change A) the password and B) the random bonded email with whatever you may used if I can’t access said email
-Also explaining this in the post of Tuesday 02/22/22 at 1:41pm even with the picture that you deleted your comment on discord.
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Not to mention, all of this magically happened after you asked me what email I used on the account. Is that an attempt of you yourself trying to fake an email change? And if you lost access to the account, how the **** are you still emailing riot off of the account?
-I know for the fact that due to changing the password / binding email in the account I had personally contact riot about this ticket and tell them to email directly, this picture proves that before Riot GM Groovus give me the final verdict, I send him the email confirming this case should be email back to my email so guy like can't make up excuses.
(Picture for reference: they replied 1hour after I send the concern)
Lastly, I have another theory in mind that you have 2 epic npc accounts, you fake selling one prior after "2months" of purchase to blame it back to the Original poster with no consequences, where "they" can claim that "they" not possessing the OEM anyway. This is clearly a scam.
- I had explain this before:
"Explain to me how I can create a ticket for riot support when I do not know the log in nor do I know your email nor can I recover the account if I’m not the original owner or have info regarding the recovery info?
-Through Riot ID portal, if you can log into the account, you can change the pass and the email binding right on there. You do know the ID login because you the one who gave it to me, the passcode you get from me when you tell me that "the mod need it to verify my acct" then you deleted in dis cord after"
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You had issues an ENTIRE MONTH before even speaking to me
-I had also explain this before
"And you waited an entire month almost to bring this to our attention???
-I waited because only 3 weeks after Riot did not response it when I reach out to the seller, which is you"
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You then speak to me give me details of what is going on and THEN claim I took the account, when once again is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for me to change A) the password and B) the random bonded email with whatever you may used if I can’t access said email
-Also explaining this in the post of Tuesday 02/22/22 at 1:41pm even with the picture that you deleted your comment on discord.
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Not to mention, all of this magically happened after you asked me what email I used on the account. Is that an attempt of you yourself trying to fake an email change? And if you lost access to the account, how the **** are you still emailing riot off of the account?
-I know for the fact that due to changing the password / binding email in the account I had personally contact riot about this ticket and tell them to email directly, this picture proves that before Riot GM Groovus give me the final verdict, I send him the email confirming this case should be email back to my email so guy like can't make up excuses.
(Picture for reference: they replied 1hour after I send the concern)
Lastly, I have another theory in mind that you have 2 epic npc accounts, you fake selling one prior after "2months" of purchase to blame it back to the Original poster with no consequences, where "they" can claim that "they" not possessing the OEM anyway. This is clearly a scam.
One additional small detail,
If you didn't have the intention of scamming, why did you remove me from your friend list even after I asked you for more details of the account so I can change it on the date I purchase this account 09/08/21?
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where it took you to the date, I give you negative feedback to just "contact" me back to ask for that password?
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If you didn't have the intention of scamming, why did you remove me from your friend list even after I asked you for more details of the account so I can change it on the date I purchase this account 09/08/21?
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where it took you to the date, I give you negative feedback to just "contact" me back to ask for that password?
(picture of the date i send him the money)
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First off, I am not going to sit here and respond to your messages anymore as you just proved you are theory crafting ideas to pass blame elsewhere. So this will be my last message toward you and will wait for mods to resolve this, and if I get another notification from you I will block you on this website.
I deleted you because I do not keep a cluttered friendlist. I only have friends added, and people I do revolving business with. Ask the most recent person I sold my warzone account to, I told him I was removing him and if he had any issues to message me on site or readd me via discord. As for the birthdate, if i am not the original owner, i wouldn't know what it is to begin with to even give it to you.
"2 accounts claim" That's the reason why epicnpc has ip audits to prevent things like this. Every person I've dealt trades with have vouches, or been on here longer than me, etc. That is the dumbest **** you could've suggested and once again has proven me now you're trying to find another way to get over on someone.
"change pass change email" You literally CANNOT change info on a RIOT account without confirm the change via email confirmation. I will attach a video proving this for you since you're ****ing stupid and think I magically changed your pass and and email 1 month after you started having issues.
This video shows you if a person doesn't know the password but has access to email, he can change it via email verification:
Here is a thread of FAQs of how to change info on a riot account which ALL lead to "a verification email sent to your email address." So now the only way I could change any information is if I have access to your email, which I clearly don't.
Side note: When buying an account that isn't yours originally, you should always utilize security features such as 2FA to have to require a code verification via email FOR EVERY LOGIN.
I am sorry you're out of 250$, but unfortunately that's the nature of buying an account off a forum page where no virtual sale has guarantees.
I will no longer be replying unless requested by a mod.
I deleted you because I do not keep a cluttered friendlist. I only have friends added, and people I do revolving business with. Ask the most recent person I sold my warzone account to, I told him I was removing him and if he had any issues to message me on site or readd me via discord. As for the birthdate, if i am not the original owner, i wouldn't know what it is to begin with to even give it to you.
"2 accounts claim" That's the reason why epicnpc has ip audits to prevent things like this. Every person I've dealt trades with have vouches, or been on here longer than me, etc. That is the dumbest **** you could've suggested and once again has proven me now you're trying to find another way to get over on someone.
"change pass change email" You literally CANNOT change info on a RIOT account without confirm the change via email confirmation. I will attach a video proving this for you since you're ****ing stupid and think I magically changed your pass and and email 1 month after you started having issues.
This video shows you if a person doesn't know the password but has access to email, he can change it via email verification:
Side note: When buying an account that isn't yours originally, you should always utilize security features such as 2FA to have to require a code verification via email FOR EVERY LOGIN.
I am sorry you're out of 250$, but unfortunately that's the nature of buying an account off a forum page where no virtual sale has guarantees.
I will no longer be replying unless requested by a mod.
LMAO, BRO! you send a change password video to justify your action? After tricking me of release my password, you log into the account, create a ticket to Riot asking why the account was "banned" then you change the binding email right in there. Anyone with a Riot account know that if you have access into the main riot account portal, you can change the binding email right there, it won't send a confirmation to the old email at all.
@EpicNPC CM, since this scammer doesn't think that refund is an option, please give me your thought on this matter.
@EpicNPC CM, since this scammer doesn't think that refund is an option, please give me your thought on this matter.
Side note: When buying an account that isn't yours originally, you should always utilize security features such as 2FA to have to require a code verification via email FOR EVERY LOGIN.
-You're basically said that this how you did it.
-You're basically said that this how you did it.
PLEASEE!! PLEASEE do it, cause I just it as well. and guess what. I'm correct.
So why didn't it send me one when you log in and create the ticket on 02/20/22 at 11:06AM right after I send you the password that you "needed to provide to mods for checking integrity of the account"?
If that's the case, then how could you create the ticket?
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(picture of ticket creation date)
(picture of date when he request for password then deleted the msg after he received it)
Looked, it even showed that I was able to log in on that date, but right after the ticket was created i couldn't even log in
If i wasn't able to log in on that date then how could i send you this picture on that date?
the time of this message was around 9:00AM, 3hours before you made that support ticket.
"Try to get over on someone else" - just stop scamming man.
If that's the case, then how could you create the ticket?
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(picture of ticket creation date)
(picture of date when he request for password then deleted the msg after he received it)
Looked, it even showed that I was able to log in on that date, but right after the ticket was created i couldn't even log in
If i wasn't able to log in on that date then how could i send you this picture on that date?
the time of this message was around 9:00AM, 3hours before you made that support ticket.
"Try to get over on someone else" - just stop scamming man.
because i didnt ****ing change it idiot how dumb are you!!! you're literally accusing me when I have no way to change any info. like when u bought the account, in order to change the info, you asked for a code. please for the love of god get the **** out of my mentions. https://gyazo.com/024a399e4b37c181b442257c2d4b759d
I'm done replying forreal. I could give two shits how this ends up at this point. You have changed accusations countless times and I'm sick of it. I'm sorry the account I purchased from someone else that I sold to you got recovered, but there is nothing I can do for you anymore. You've done nothing but stress me out with accusations that make little to zero sense. Please buy another account from someone else or get the **** off the market period if you can't handle the risk factor when purchasing a virtual good.
You just said yourself you can create tickets without even having access to the account above. Please stop with the nonsense. If 250$ is that important to you, create your own account and invest it into content that way so there is no risk. I have no other words for you.
Then why did you request my password of the account at 10:45am the? Clearly, I still have the picture of me giving you the password.
@EpicNPC CM please give me your thought on this matter, since arguing with this guy is clearly pointless.
@EpicNPC CM please give me your thought on this matter, since arguing with this guy is clearly pointless.
I didn't thats the thing. Also, you say all of your info was changed. Show me any video where I can change any security info without needing a confirmation email. YOU CANT. That literally proves me innocent. The only person that can do that is A) the person who has full control over the account (which is you in this case) or B) The original owner would need to recover the account!
This could very will be some ploy you're trying to attempt to get the best of both worlds where you keep the account and try to get a refund. Not to mention you reached out to me prior to purchasing it telling me you didn't have enough money at the time. Financial struggles lead to stupid decisions. Whether that may be the case, we will never know. At the end of the day, I could give two shits whether you get the account back or not. You've done nothing but target me when I am clearly not the original owner and have zero capability of doing any of the above claimed actions. So with that being said, go **** yourself. @iPyroSushi
This could very will be some ploy you're trying to attempt to get the best of both worlds where you keep the account and try to get a refund. Not to mention you reached out to me prior to purchasing it telling me you didn't have enough money at the time. Financial struggles lead to stupid decisions. Whether that may be the case, we will never know. At the end of the day, I could give two shits whether you get the account back or not. You've done nothing but target me when I am clearly not the original owner and have zero capability of doing any of the above claimed actions. So with that being said, go **** yourself. @iPyroSushi
This could very will be some ploy you're trying to attempt to get the best of both worlds where you keep the account and try to get a refund.
-How can I do that when Riot emailed me and to refund on what i spend on the account while in the time fram of me possessing it?
You've done nothing but target me when I am clearly not the original owner and have zero capability of doing any of the above claimed actions.
-Then why you have to delete your comment about you needing my password for a mods to check the account?
So with that being said, go **** yourself. @iPyroSushi
-Lmao, you're so mature, hope life will treat you with a sudden lesson soon.
-How can I do that when Riot emailed me and to refund on what i spend on the account while in the time fram of me possessing it?
You've done nothing but target me when I am clearly not the original owner and have zero capability of doing any of the above claimed actions.
-Then why you have to delete your comment about you needing my password for a mods to check the account?
So with that being said, go **** yourself. @iPyroSushi
-Lmao, you're so mature, hope life will treat you with a sudden lesson soon.
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Has there been an update from riot support yet giving any information on the ban?
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For the dispute opened here : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/leminnno-dispute.2171513/#post-8199484
@Simp757 you were given a full refund for this correct?
@Simp757 you were given a full refund for this correct?
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