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Purchase Date: 07/05
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/⚡-p...om-octane-butterfly-knife-420-lvl-fa.2458807/
Approximate value of item/service: 60.00 USD + payment fee (for using usdt crypto payment)
Date the problem began: 07/05
Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site?
- If off-site, what website or chat? We used discord too to discuss before and after
--- What was your username? dodoTV#5530
--- What was the username of the other person? p04k4#0440
DISPUTE Information
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I discussed beforehand with the seller...
We then proceeded on epicnpc, created a discussion and invited a middleman (Useeds) whom I paid.
Then the seller asked me to pay 60 usdt, which I did (I paid 62 usdt instead since that was what I had on my account), but not having specified that the shipping costs were 15 usdt, we had a dispute. Indeed, the seller lives in Russia and because of the restrictions it was difficult for me to know that I had to pay so much (knowing that he didn't specify it and that there were already a few problems leading to confusion, he was wrong when he told me about btc first and then contradicted himself,...)
I pay him again 17 usdt thinking that the shipping cost is a percentage... It was in fact 15 usdt for each shipment, so at that time he had received 47 usdt from the first payment and a little more than 1 usdt from the second... I sent a third time this time 30 usdt (always a little more than the amount requested) and he received 15 usdt more, that is to say approximately 63 usdt in total and for me approximately 106.83 euros spent for an account that I had to pay 60 approximately...
At the last payment, he said he didn't receive anything... we waited and I ended up sending the proof of my payments (the coinbase statement of my shipments) on the chat to Useeds and the exchange was finally accepted. At this point, the exchange had been going on for several hours so Useeds had gone to sleep. I got a little stressed since I wasn't getting the info, and it was the next day that I finally received the codes.
Playing on steam and having bought an origin / ea account, I had to re-download the game on this platform, so I go to work by downloading the game and in the evening, I try to connect to the account. I first encounter connection problems (the password that Useeds gave me does not work) so I ask for a password reset and I finally manage to connect.
The problem is that before launching the game, I see that there is no success on the account... I start to doubt, launch the game and find a blank account.
The seller says that he is not responsible for this problem and that he gave the account as it should be to Useeds, I wanted to check the level of the account on a tracker site (to see if the account I bought existed at least and so I could start researching) but the seller doesn't remember the EA id of the account.
So I ended up paying more for an account than I should have, only to find it was blank.
It's important to know that the seller also insisted the same evening after the sale (when I didn't have the account yet) to get his account back and that I paid him 20 euros in ethereum against another account (this one: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/⚡-p...i-octane-butterfly-knife-heirloom-fa.2458803/) that he was selling at the beginning 100 euros
I did not accept this exchange since the account was not even in my possession yet (the one I had just bought)
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Link to the transaction : https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=tg&group=2940383
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1I3ZuA5oSVRQZydbxve2trbYj5H4J4xdg?usp=share_link
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? No, he is not (in the drive you have the screen)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? mail and password, no phone or double authentification needed (that's what he said). By the way, Useeds took care of the account and change the email and the password of this one
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? I'm not sure that it is recalled, but if so, then just after the transaction I guess
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
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Purchase Date: 07/05
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/⚡-p...om-octane-butterfly-knife-420-lvl-fa.2458807/
Approximate value of item/service: 60.00 USD + payment fee (for using usdt crypto payment)
Date the problem began: 07/05
Did the transaction occur on Epicnpc or off-site?
- If off-site, what website or chat? We used discord too to discuss before and after
--- What was your username? dodoTV#5530
--- What was the username of the other person? p04k4#0440
DISPUTE Information
######################
I discussed beforehand with the seller...
We then proceeded on epicnpc, created a discussion and invited a middleman (Useeds) whom I paid.
Then the seller asked me to pay 60 usdt, which I did (I paid 62 usdt instead since that was what I had on my account), but not having specified that the shipping costs were 15 usdt, we had a dispute. Indeed, the seller lives in Russia and because of the restrictions it was difficult for me to know that I had to pay so much (knowing that he didn't specify it and that there were already a few problems leading to confusion, he was wrong when he told me about btc first and then contradicted himself,...)
I pay him again 17 usdt thinking that the shipping cost is a percentage... It was in fact 15 usdt for each shipment, so at that time he had received 47 usdt from the first payment and a little more than 1 usdt from the second... I sent a third time this time 30 usdt (always a little more than the amount requested) and he received 15 usdt more, that is to say approximately 63 usdt in total and for me approximately 106.83 euros spent for an account that I had to pay 60 approximately...
At the last payment, he said he didn't receive anything... we waited and I ended up sending the proof of my payments (the coinbase statement of my shipments) on the chat to Useeds and the exchange was finally accepted. At this point, the exchange had been going on for several hours so Useeds had gone to sleep. I got a little stressed since I wasn't getting the info, and it was the next day that I finally received the codes.
Playing on steam and having bought an origin / ea account, I had to re-download the game on this platform, so I go to work by downloading the game and in the evening, I try to connect to the account. I first encounter connection problems (the password that Useeds gave me does not work) so I ask for a password reset and I finally manage to connect.
The problem is that before launching the game, I see that there is no success on the account... I start to doubt, launch the game and find a blank account.
The seller says that he is not responsible for this problem and that he gave the account as it should be to Useeds, I wanted to check the level of the account on a tracker site (to see if the account I bought existed at least and so I could start researching) but the seller doesn't remember the EA id of the account.
So I ended up paying more for an account than I should have, only to find it was blank.
It's important to know that the seller also insisted the same evening after the sale (when I didn't have the account yet) to get his account back and that I paid him 20 euros in ethereum against another account (this one: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/⚡-p...i-octane-butterfly-knife-heirloom-fa.2458803/) that he was selling at the beginning 100 euros
I did not accept this exchange since the account was not even in my possession yet (the one I had just bought)
Proof
######################
You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Link to the transaction : https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=tg&group=2940383
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1I3ZuA5oSVRQZydbxve2trbYj5H4J4xdg?usp=share_link
Account Recalls
######################
Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? No, he is not (in the drive you have the screen)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? mail and password, no phone or double authentification needed (that's what he said). By the way, Useeds took care of the account and change the email and the password of this one
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? I'm not sure that it is recalled, but if so, then just after the transaction I guess
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
