Dispute against Merjovitch for SEA saint seiya account theft.

[TheReed]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 01/08
Date the problem begain: 01/08
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] : Hidd3X#7098/Merjovitch#1767
Your Instant Messenger ID: Aldrich#8887

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/complete-roster-sea-offer-your-price.1661068/#post-6927414
Approximate value of property: $120 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? no
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? x

What is the dispute about?

Other details / notes:

Okay so he contacted me via Discord yesterday and offered to buy the account, I was totally down with it obviously and I even gave him the IDs to GTarcade and the backup Email (I thought what are we without some trust? he just proved again that we are a doomed race lol)
Obviously he went straight up to blocking me on discord and changing the GTarcade backup email/login, but the thing is he didn't change the original Gmail's password I gave to him, and THAT is the founder mail for the account,
so I can still access the GTarcade login page, and here is a screenshot showing that PRIOR to yesterday
all logins where from TUNISIA (obviously where I live as shown here) and only yesterday there were this "Earth" logins (I'm guessing he is using a VPN). and that is obviously easily verifiable by a Middleman from here.
and there are other means to verify it also.


Proof
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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
The GTarcade login showing that the account was originaly bind from Tunisia (oldest login) (where I live) and how strangely those "Earth" logins (poor kid must have went on a frenzy of password changes after he noticed that I can still access the thing) where only there AFTER the scam.

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[Angel]

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Please post an image of the discord ID with the #

 

[TheReed]

 

[Angel]

@Merjovitch can you explain this

 

[Merjovitch]

Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

Hi

I buy account logs in bulk, to website like Dread or Empire Market. Sometimes directly from private buyer that submit me new propositions.

Please contact Hidd3x

 

[Merjovitch]

Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

I did mention in the thread i was not original owner.

You can see it's true. That's why i sell cheap.

High Price high quality. Low price...


By the way i'm sorry for your loss but that's how mobile game market usually works.

There is premium high quality sellers, occasional sellers, and the others

 

[Angel]

@Merjovitch you can't sell the stolen stuff. Please post the full conversation image between you and Hidd3x

Also an image with payment proof

 

[TheReed]

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I did mention in the thread i was not original owner.

You can see it's true. That's why i sell cheap.

High Price high quality. Low price...


By the way i'm sorry for your loss but that's how mobile game market usually works.

There is premium high quality sellers, occasional sellers, and the others

Here is a very good start filled with lies @Angel ,he is claiming that he mentioned in the thread that he WAS NOT the owner yet :

Also, Hidd3x and you, are the same person, how ? hiddex is from France and you are from France, but OK coincidences might happen, yet what cannot happen so fast is the rest, (everything is in time in the screenshots)
the timing I gave you the credentials on discord the backup email that have been changed so fast in seconds to Yumm******* and the name of the account inside the game, If you were not hiddex you wouldn't have kept the Yumm***** email you used until this moment
just give up as told above I can prove so easily that the account was stolen from me. And you just, by starting with a lie gave me another bullet.

 

[Merjovitch]

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Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

Well i talked to him through Telegram and he just told me that "he had a good account on the way from reddit"


So i got it immediately.

So apprently the events didnt happened on Epicnpc

He changed the pw to his. Then to a generic one. Then i changed it to mine, then another.

Hidd3x speaks French, German and Russian. He does not live in France. He just use a French VPS.

Also, i have no way to know it's stolen or not (by the way according to the TOS account is the property of the company of it. So stolen is not the correct word) and i don't ask.

People probably know it when they buy.

When you buy a car for 100USD, you don't expect it to be fully clean. Same for account.

Again sorry for your loss but i can't do nothing. This guy sells account in bulk, he probably dont even remember of you.

You should never go first with someone that has lower rep than you.

 

[Angel]

Well i talked to him through Telegram and he just told me that "he had a good account on the way from reddit"


So i got it immediately.

So apprently the events didnt happened on Epicnpc

He changed the pw to his. Then to a generic one. Then i changed it to mine, then another.

Hidd3x speaks French, German and Russian. He does not live in France. He just use a French VPS.

Also, i have no way to know it's stolen or not (by the way according to the TOS account is the property of the company of it. So stolen is not the correct word) and i don't ask.

People probably know it when they buy.

When you buy a car for 100USD, you don't expect it to be fully clean. Same for account.

Again sorry for your loss but i can't do nothing. This guy sells account in bulk, he probably dont even remember of you.

You should never go first with someone that has lower rep than you.

Ok please post the evidence that you indeed talked with this person. I will need the payment proof as well.

 

[Merjovitch]

Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

Sure. Will get back to home at 11pm.

Will post everything here if you want.

By that time you can try to talk ti Hidd3x but he won't do anything except offering you a replacement @TheReed

But if all of this happened on reddit you should do this on reddit

 

[Angel]

Sure. Will get back to home at 11pm.

Will post everything here if you want.

By that time you can try to talk ti Hidd3x but he won't do anything except offering you a replacement @TheReed

But if all of this happened on reddit you should do this on reddit

If you been able to prove that you indeed purchased this account from that person you will have to return the account to the original owner. We do not allow selling stolen accounts here. [yes they are stolen no matter what game TOS said]

 

[Merjovitch]

Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

I bought that account 20USD so i would like to get them back.

And account cannot be legally stolen, no matter what morality and language can suggest.

Not to be rude @TheReed but never deal on reddit, especially with unknown members.

I did nothing wrong i just bought an account.

Please contact Hidd3x and deal with him. I'm not responsable if you've been scammed.

I'm a buyer/reseller and i do not offer replacement or refund after account has been delivered and i don't give accounts in my stock for free.

If this guy want his account back he should contact Hidd3x for a replacement or pay it back to me.

You can also ban me if you want but that would change nothing : Reed won't get his account back, Hidd3x will continue his business and I will do the same.

Have a nice day. Will provide you the screenshots after

 

[Merjovitch]

Banned - Selling stolen Accounts - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dispute-against-merjovitch-for-sea-saint-seiya-account-theft.1671126/

As it's writter in Tencent License and service agreement :


2.6 The game account is the identification that Tencent authorizes you to log in and use Tencent Games and related services in accordance with this Agreement, and its ownership belongs to Tencent. You only have the right to use the game account in accordance with this Agreement, “QQ Number Policy”， “Tencent WeChat Software License and Service Agreement”, "Standards of WeChat Personal Account Usage"，relevant account usage agreement and special rules issued by Tencent for it. You shall not provide your game account to anyone else for use in any manner, including but not limited to assigning, leasing and lending your game account to anyone else for commercial use, including but not limited to live broadcasting, videotaping, surrogate training/ gaming and other commercial use. Otherwise, you shall be responsible for any legal consequences and liabilities caused by your action, and Tencent will be entitled to take punitive measures against your game account, including but not limited to issuing warning, restricting or prohibiting the use of all or part of your game account function, deleting game account along with Game Data and other related information, banning or canceling of game account, and you will be responsible for all the losses caused thereby.

 

[Angel]

I bought that account 20USD so i would like to get them back.

And account cannot be legally stolen, no matter what morality and language can suggest.

Not to be rude @TheReed but never deal on reddit, especially with unknown members.

I did nothing wrong i just bought an account.

Please contact Hidd3x and deal with him. I'm not responsable if you've been scammed.

I'm a buyer/reseller and i do not offer replacement or refund after account has been delivered and i don't give accounts in my stock for free.

If this guy want his account back he should contact Hidd3x for a replacement or pay it back to me.

You can also ban me if you want but that would change nothing : Reed won't get his account back, Hidd3x will continue his business and I will do the same.

Have a nice day. Will provide you the screenshots after

This is a bunch of nonsense. You are responsible for everything you sell here, you can't act like you don't care and purposely buying the stolen accounts without to care or ask about how is obtained.

@Merjovitch has been banned for purposely selling a stolen accounts


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Merjovitch#1767
Possibly related to Hidd3X#7098

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