DevilTz is scammer

[Atros]

Dispute Against

DevilTz

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Information
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Purchase Date: 18/2/2023 in Facebook
Date the problem began: 18/2/2023
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Messenger
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Adnan Sal
Your Instant Messenger ID: Hiền Phạm

Other information: I was scammed on Facebook, and saw DevilTz selling the exact account in epicnpc


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/high-100-collection-global-lexington-have-many-resources.2442978/
Approximate value of property: $400 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No


What is the dispute about?
I was scammed on Facebook, and saw DevilTz selling the exact account in epicnpc
Other details / notes:


Proof

Account Recalls

 

[STCOOL]

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Hi, im Azur lane forum Moderator and saw that thread
DevilTz Stated he is original Owner in the thread https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/high-100-collection-global-lexington-have-many-resources.2442978/

however, im contacting him and he said he helped his facebook friend named "Adnan"
He provide me the chat history but it suspicious (Prob Fake Chat) because it not showing all the chat
so i ask him his Facebook Login to check the messenger and match the date and time
he give me the facebook login, but i can't find the conversation between him and "Adnan"
when i ask, he said he already delete his conversation

This is the proof that he said he deleted the conversation with “Adnan”




So DevilTz said he got scammed by “Adnan”
Got blocked
But DevilTz Deleted the convo between him and "Adnan"
So i can’t match the date and time


DevilTz also lies, he said someone buying the account around 2 am indonesian time and
account got take back by Atros (the righful owner)

DevilTz did refund to buyer and send me the convo between him And the buyer, but when i saw the convo
I saw suspicious statement that DevilTz said “I bought it for $330 month ago”

 

[DevilTz]

Ok let's talk from the beginning, adnan ask my help to post his account in epic npc,i don't know anything about he scamming some account, he ask my help to me for selling account is like 1 week ago, and then someone want to buy it @silenceonyia he buy the account and then I tell adnan to enter his recovery email and phone,

Then the gmail get locked,and I ask adnan what happens he didn't say anything,I thought that he the one who recall the account so I refund @silenceonyia I already refund his money a minutes after he can't enter

 

[DevilTz]

You can see in here the time when I refund his money, I immediately refund, eventhough i don't know what happens to him,that 12 hours ago, me and the buyer already agree and I already send it way before I know that adnan is scamm,

I helping him because I'm the moderator of his group, he said his PayPal got limited for 1 month because he got refund 2k so I lend my PayPal and help him to sell his account in epic

 

[DevilTz]

And then 10 hours after it,like 2 hours ago @STCOOL give me a hard threat he slandering me without knowing that I already refund buyer money after the problem started, he even asking all of my data including personal and home, and he slandering me telling to everyone without knowing anything

even though I the one who pay the buyer money,yeah I lose $200 because I already send the money to adnan

Sorry with my English

 

[DevilTz]

@silenceonyia let's ask the buyer

 

[DevilTz]

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https://facebook.com/groups/503548960623029/

This his group I a former moderator in there, and you can see when he recruit me because I send him the proof of my epic npc month ago

 

[DevilTz]

What I understand is both the first owner and the buyer already get their money and account back,yeah I lose $250 because I take responsibility for selling someone account without knowing anything about it, I'm a man

The moderator of azurlane slandering me right and left, without knowing I already refund the money after the problem start

 

[STCOOL]

The problem is not you did refund or nah
You selling Stolen Azur Lane Account and stated you are the original owner
When i verify your chat and "Adnan" you said you already deleted it
So you said you got scammed by "Adnan" and you deleted the conversation between you and him

not only that, you said to your buyer you bought the account for $330 last month

 

[DevilTz]

The problem is not you did refund or nah
You selling Stolen Azur Lane Account and stated you are the original owner
When i verify your chat and "Adnan" you said you already deleted it
So you said you got scammed by "Adnan" and you deleted the conversation between you and him

not only that, you said to your buyer you bought the account for $330 last month

I already tell to buyer later after the problem started, I believe adnan because he my admin,and when problem started I take responsibility you didn't even know I already refund the money

 

[silenceonyia]

$450 was the amount money I sent to DevilTz and wasn't properly informed about the account being original? Was the situation I was brought in. Was refunded $300

 

[DevilTz]

Me when refund the money
2am
Him first message 9 am, he slandering me right and left, he like sending death threats and asking my personal information, I already give him my fb, I mean it's ok if you want to ask, but ask first before slandering people

 

[DevilTz]

$450 was the amount money I sent to DevilTz and wasn't properly informed about the account being original? Was the situation I was brought in. Was refunded $300

Yeah him and I already agree even before the problem started I immediately refund $350 of his money and I get the rest because he probably fell pity to me

I mean if I want to scamm I will not immediately refund his money and just block him

 

[silenceonyia]

 

[silenceonyia]

 

[STCOOL]

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$450 was the amount money I sent to DevilTz and wasn't properly informed about the account being original? Was the situation I was brought in. Was refunded $300

He stated he is the original owner of the account on his thread

He said to you He bought the account $330 Last month right ?



But then he said he scammed by his friend named "Adnan"
but when i ask his facebook login to confirm and verify the chat
he said he already deleted the chat/conversation between him and Adnan
Or he is Adnan Himself

i think is already clear, that he is a liar and might be connected to Adnan

 

[DevilTz]

He stated he is the original owner of the account on his thread

He said to you He bought the account $330 Last month right ?



But then he said he scammed by his friend named "Adnan"
but when i ask his facebook login to confirm and verify the chat
he said he already deleted the chat/conversation between him and Adnan
Or he is Adnan Himself

i think is already clear, that he is a liar and might be connected to Adnan

Already said I did that because I trusted adnan, when the problem start I take responsibility my English is bad but at least you had common sense right?

 

[silenceonyia]

 

[silenceonyia]

 

[silenceonyia]

This was when I was informed that he didn't have complete full access of the account when the gmail and phone number lock up cause it reverted back to the first owner email and phone number

 

[DevilTz]

He stated he is the original owner of the account on his thread

He said to you He bought the account $330 Last month right ?



But then he said he scammed by his friend named "Adnan"
but when i ask his facebook login to confirm and verify the chat
he said he already deleted the chat/conversation between him and Adnan
Or he is Adnan Himself

i think is already clear, that he is a liar and might be connected to Adnan

I also already tell to buyer that I so confused and tired, that why I deleted him, but you still can see the screenshot,

The fact I take responsibility and refund the money after the problem started already telling it all

 

[DevilTz]

This was when I was informed that he didn't have complete full access of the account when the gmail and phone number lock up cause it reverted back to the first owner email and phone number

Right this 2 am when I start to refund his money, the azur lane moderator message me at 9am and slandering me

 

[DevilTz]

2am

 

[DevilTz]

It's so sad I literally take responsibility, yeah I'm wrong that why i take responsibility both owner of the account and buyer already get their money and account back, I lose money because I take responsibility if I want to run I just can block the buyer at 2am
Again the slandering moderator message me at 9am morning, I'm fine if he want to ask, but he just immediately attack me, and again I can just block him but no,

 

[silenceonyia]

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I just straight type what I see and discuss with Devil. I paid $450 thinking I'm getting a Azur Lane account that has facebook bind "dead". Proceed to change username and password that resulted in me getting locked out. Gmail and password reverted back to originally owner which I assume DevilTz would have full control. At that point it spiral out where both of us don't have account? Which just leave me a refund of $300 and with $150 on DevilTz for pity I guess

 

[STCOOL]

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i see no reason you deleted the conversation between you and "Adnan"
you also lies that you the original owner of the account on the thread

not only that you lies to @silenceonyia that you bought the azur lane account for $330 last month


You Provided the chat history Screenshot to me at 8:58 AM indonesian time
the transaction between you and @silenceonyia began around 2:00 AM indonesian time
however you took the screenshot about you send the money to "Adnan" at 8:56 AM indonesian time
that mean you still didn't delete the conversation at that time


Proof:



So you deleted the conversation after i DM you to ask the facebook log in to match and verify is that real chat or fake chat

 

[STCOOL]

i think it's already clear
i'll Leave it to admin to Judge

 

[DevilTz]

i see no reason you deleted the conversation between you and "Adnan"
you also lies that you the original owner of the account on the thread

not only that you lies to @silenceonyia that you bought the azur lane account for $330 last month


You Provided the chat history Screenshot to me at 8:58 AM indonesian time
the transaction between you and @silenceonyia began around 2:00 AM indonesian time
however you took the screenshot about you send the money to "Adnan" at 8:56 AM indonesian time
that mean you still didn't delete the conversation at that time


Proof:



So you deleted the conversation after i DM you to ask the facebook log in to match and verify is that real chat or fake chat

So?

Yeah I deleted it, as you can see at 10am I already said I'm tired so I just block and delete him

and will take responsibility
and ur logic make no sense
even if you don't belive me and you still stick with ur own Headcannon, I already refund the money 12 hours ago that long before your message me at 9am,so if you still stuck with ur headcannon

I refund him once the gmail get locked
you just want to look like a hero,without even know that i already refund it,
Yep hope karma get you for slandering me

 

[DevilTz]

You keep repeating that over and over again, I already reply to you in the first page,
And the buyer already send the proof too, so what the problem again? Did I scamm money or account? Again I already solved it 12 hours ago

 

[DevilTz]

Here the first screenshot he starts message me at 3am 3-5 days ago,why I deleted it?I already said in the first page I tired and I will take responsibilities, you message me at 9am

And my point is did I take responsibility or not?the buyer already said it,so your point doesn't even make sense

 

[STCOOL]

Here the first screenshot he starts message me at 3am 3-5 days ago,why I deleted it?I already said in the first page I tired and I will take responsibility,that 9am when I give u the proof and after it I deleted it

And my point is did I take responsibility or not?the buyer already said it,so your point doesn't even make sense

You said it’s first screenshot he start message me at 3am 3-5 days ago

But look at the bottom screenshot
So he already block your fb 3-5 days ago when you took the screenshot lol

@EpicNPC it’s clear now

 

[DevilTz]

https://wise.com/en/track/92c76892e...&utm_source=android&utm_content=activity-page


Here the wise refund at 2 am, the slandering moderator didn't even know I already refund him

 

[DevilTz]

You said it’s first screenshot he start message me at 3am 3-5 days ago

But look at the bottom screenshot
So he already block your fb 3-5 days ago when you took the screenshot lol

@EpicNPC it’s clear now

Yeah that the firs message he send to me? Wdym

 

[DevilTz]

I screenshot it at 8am, after you asking me the proof and then deleted it, so why can it be 3am? When you message me at 8am?

 

[DevilTz]

Use some logic

 

[DevilTz]

There probably a date above it, but unfortunately, I didn't screenshot it, you message me at 8am and his first message to sell the azurlane is 3am

That almost the same time when I chat him why the gmail locked

 

[STCOOL]

If it’s chat 3-5 days ago
There will be date/month and time

If it’s today chat there just only time
And your screenshot is only time that mean the chat is not over 24 hours yet

 

[STCOOL]

Okay i’ve enough

@EpicNPC i’ll leave it to you

 

[DevilTz]

If it’s chat 3-5 days ago
There will be date/month and time

If it’s today chat only time

Yeah it's have the date,I forgot when, but he message me at 3am and You start message me at 7am

 

[DevilTz]

Didn't know that his first message or no because he spam me, but as you can see it's 3am, not 8am

 

[DevilTz]

I refund him at 2:45am,so why I make fake message on 3am when I already refund him?, or that time is when I ask him why the gmail get locked,I don't know it's very confusing, I already pay $200 more and this slandering moderator still go on

 

[EpicNPC]

A negative feedback has been added to DevilTz account for false advertising. If that happens again, we will issue a permanent ban.

It appears DevilTz is resolving the issue by sending a refund.

We do not investigate non-Trade Guardian disputes. This dispute should have been closed immediately. Negative feedback can be given to the seller.