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Account seller scam - Money + Account traded = kept + took back sold account.

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Scam Accusation

Blargh44

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Purchase Date: 26/04/2018
Date the problem began: 30/04/2018
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Your Instant Messenger ID: PKBowsy#9236
Instant Messenger username of the person you are accusing:
erickelrojo#4966

Other information: Kaiser2102 has been online multiple times but ignored PM's from PKBowsy + blocked him on discord.

- Kaiser2101 is selling the account given to him here - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1298109-Cheap-account-39-5*-New-Hinoka-Zelgius-Seasonals-and-more!!

- PK has spent money on the account that was bought in in-app purchases before it was taken back (70$).

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1298109-Cheap-account-39-5*-New-Hinoka-Zelgius-Seasonals-and-more!! (Where previous account of PKBowsy is being sold)

Approximate value of property: 45 dollars

Was Trade Guardian used? No.
What is the dispute about?

- Dispute opened on behalf of user @PKBowsy. @Kaiser2101 and PKBowsy started a trade where it was PKBowsy's account + 45 dollars for Kaiser2101's account. However Kaiser2101 didn't give recovery email to PKBowsy, and when he asked for it, Kasier2101 then went on to recover/change password of the account, getting his account back + keeping what was given to him in the trade (and then continuing to sell that account after the scam).​


- Kaiser2101 is selling the account given to him here (After playing on it somewhat and getting a few more units.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1298109-Cheap-account-39-5*-New-Hinoka-Zelgius-Seasonals-and-more!!

- Proof that this was PKBowsy's account previously https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/129...for-10!!-Micaiah-WT!Hinoka-seasonals-and-MORE! (Look at unit order, account has been played on so a few added on)

Other details / notes: Discord was gotten from this thread
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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1298109-Cheap-account-39-5*-New-Hinoka-Zelgius-Seasonals-and-more!!
However after hearing about his scam, my first reaction was to edit out his discord so no one else could contact him and potentially get scammed. Seeing how in other disputes this is needed to show proof of where the user got the seller's discord, can any admin/mod re-edit it/check edit history to see his discord was gotten from that thread.

However he has included his discord on his other threads
, such as here https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/129...-70orbs-(Bridal-cordelia-reinhard-1-and-more) and https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1294102-End-game-8ssr-22sr-gilgamesh-okita-waver-and-more

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

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Agreeing to trade -
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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
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Kaiser2101 paypal email provided was - [email protected]

Other proof:

Kaiser giving PKBowsy Paypal information on discord -
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Kaiser Blocking PKBowsy on Discord
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Account having password changed - https://media.[Social group links n..._2018-04-30-18-41-54.png?width=226&height=401​

Account Recalls
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Did the seller say he is the original owner? (provide proof) -
Not Directly, however strongly implied he is/has access to the nintendo account's email when asked for the recovery email/change recovery email code -
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Account Email and password.

How long did you have the account before it was recalled? 4 days.
 
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