Wunderkind scam of 755$

[Troma178]

Hi this person also contacted me for cash app transfer to receive money from someone for an amount of 550

 

[Ezger]

Well, Ig that makes sense why he doesn't answer me anymore about our trade, just adding $125 to his impressive list of scams. I wasnt expecting that from a moderator, I swear if he didnt have this title I would have never bought his suspicious offer, but he had it so I got scammed just like everyone on this post sadly.

sad to hear it, epicnpc doesnt seem to be a safe environment
the owners dont give a damn about you and i, 0 protection here
they are offering scam ranks to anyone who pays a subscription
and the wheel goes on and on

 

[mazdi]

 

[mazdi]

sad to hear it, epicnpc doesnt seem to be a safe environment
the owners dont give a damn about you and i, 0 protection here
they are offering scam ranks to anyone who pays a subscription
and the wheel goes on and on

they only care about their money as you told " known scam quit scamming " what a pity

 

[Angel]

Hi this person also contacted me for cash app transfer to receive money from someone for an amount of 550

So you are scammed for 550$ amount?

 

[Troma178]

Well he was about to scammed me for an account but he asked me to get a transfer money that someone was going to send me and convert it into cripto and send it to him

 

[Troma178]

Also, this guy has been doing this for a while last year I got an account that he sold me for 500+ and he told me that was one of his personal accounts he's selling after a while the account gets banned for n reason bc I was rarely playing on the account and that exact same week a person contacted me that the exact same thing happened to him.

 

[BlakeMistHand]

Well he was about to scammed me for an account but he asked me to get a transfer money that someone was going to send me and convert it into cripto and send it to him

$550 is the amount I paid him. He's probably tryna trade the money I sent him into crypto.

 

[Troma178]

$550 is the amount I paid him. He's probably tryna trade the money I sent him into crypto.t

$550 is the amount I paid him. He's probably tryna trade the money I sent him into crypto.

The person that sent me the money was named Randy Gale

 

[Ezger]

guys !
stop trying

you read what the owners said " we do not investigate your crap , we dont care , unless Mr scammer is generous to pay back, we will not react or even provide info "

 

[Exotic101]

I am really sorry for everyone's loses, I hope god reimburse all of you for your loses. Try not to get upset guys, I would prefer losing money than spending them on a surgery Good luck everyone

 

[Exotic101]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@Angel
Also we need to chage the rule of investigating Discord disputes at least for mods and well known people, Cause like that you are opening for mods to scam maybe at least one a month? And they can just get away with it since it was on discord. And the negative rep will be removed easily, I am talking for mods and well known people like me at least.
Excuse my English for any mistakes

 

[Ezger]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@Angel
Also we need to chage the rule of investigating Discord disputes at least for mods and well known people, Cause like that you are opening for mods to scam maybe at least one a month? And they can just get away with it since it was on discord. And the negative rep will be removed easily, I am talking for mods and well known people like me at least.
Excuse my English for any mistakes

they didnt investigate my situation on epicnpc chat
its not about discord
' THEY DO NOT WANT TO INVESTIGATE ANYTHING ' just ban the scammer thats it

 

[Exotic101]

they didnt investigate my situation on epicnpc chat
its not about discord
' THEY DO NOT WANT TO INVESTIGATE ANYTHING ' just ban the scammer thats it

Unfortunately even after investigation, They will just ban him and no one will repay you. I am sorry for that. But trust me a ban here isnt worth the money the scammer took. So he will regret it so much, for example having an income for 1k per month or get 5k once forever? And he can never be again on Epicnpc unless the ban is lifted and he repayed all, and no other platform is such as good as Epicnpc after all. I got scammed a lot most what I could do is just ban the scammer, Sorry again for your loss I can feel you

 

[mazdi]

Unfortunately even after investigation, They will just ban him and no one will repay you. I am sorry for that. But trust me a ban here isnt worth the money the scammer took. So he will regret it so much, for example having an income for 1k per month or get 5k once forever? And he can never be again on Epicnpc unless the ban is lifted and he repayed all, and no other platform is such as good as Epicnpc after all. I got scammed a lot most what I could do is just ban the scammer, Sorry again for your loss I can feel you

Put yourself to 8k lose person and think it twice mate I can understand your good wishes but we cannot throw it away this isn't a normal scamming this is different. They have normalized the quit scamming and this cases will be happen soon again and again. The mod ( employee of forum ) scams most of users and owner of it doesn't do anything.

 

[Ezger]

Unfortunately even after investigation, They will just ban him and no one will repay you. I am sorry for that. But trust me a ban here isnt worth the money the scammer took. So he will regret it so much, for example having an income for 1k per month or get 5k once forever? And he can never be again on Epicnpc unless the ban is lifted and he repayed all, and no other platform is such as good as Epicnpc after all. I got scammed a lot most what I could do is just ban the scammer, Sorry again for your loss I can feel you

that 520€ that i got scammed was my Rent + food for next month, i will be kicked out of the house in August 02 if i dont pay
dont know where to go, or where to get money to eat
i have been a trusted seller in epicnpc since 2017 , i sold game accounts from 10€ up to 1150€ and i never had a problem
when clients dont like it i refund them
i don't use fake feedback like many here do to bump their reps, i dont pay for Mod to attract clients
i am LEGIT

but this is what i get in the end, and Epicnpc dont give a *** about my situation

 

[Angel]

Please note that Mods are volunteers, not employees, and we are not affiliated with Admins. Mods are not paid for their work. Becoming a Local Mod (green) is relatively easy; you need 70-80+ positive feedback ratings and a decent history. So, you should not blindly trust them.

If you were scammed by a Middleman (MM) or a Global Mod (red), I would call it a disaster. Such actions from Local Mods do not surprise me and am surprised there are not more of them. There have been instances where Local Mods and even Global Mods have decided to scam people. But yet, we are not responsible for each other's actions and cannot predict them. Sometimes is impossible to recognize a bad apple even in your close family, and not to mention people on the internet where we are all strangers to each other.

The best way to protect yourself on EpicNPC is by using TG system. Although it may not offer full protection from chargebacks and such, it is better than nothing. For currency exchangers, I recommend requesting an ID with a selfie from their clients to prevent scammers from attempting similar actions in the future.

When it comes to EpicNPC, there isn't much that can be done. Admins' hands are tied by law, so the best thing you can do is contact an attorney and start from there.

Again, I feel sorry for all that has happened to you, and I wish we could do more to help. If anyone has an idea on how to help Ezger, to not get ejected from his house, whether through donations or other means, please message me privately so we can come up with a plan.

 

[mazdi]

Please note that Mods are volunteers, not employees, and we are not affiliated with Admins. Mods are not paid for their work. Becoming a Local Mod (green) is relatively easy; you need 70-80+ positive feedback ratings and a decent history. So, you should not blindly trust them.

If you were scammed by a Middleman (MM) or a Global Mod (red), I would call it a disaster. Such actions from Local Mods do not surprise me and am surprised there are not more of them. There have been instances where Local Mods and even Global Mods have decided to scam people. But yet, we are not responsible for each other's actions and cannot predict them. Sometimes is impossible to recognize a bad apple even in your close family, and not to mention people on the internet where we are all strangers to each other.

The best way to protect yourself on EpicNPC is by using TG system. Although it may not offer full protection from chargebacks and such, it is better than nothing. For currency exchangers, I recommend requesting an ID with a selfie from their clients to prevent scammers from attempting similar actions in the future.

When it comes to EpicNPC, there isn't much that can be done. Admins' hands are tied by law, so the best thing you can do is contact an attorney and start from there.

Again, I feel sorry for all that has happened to you, and I wish we could do more to help. If anyone has an idea on how to help Ezger, to not get ejected from his house, whether through donations or other means, please message me privately so we can come up with a plan.

Well, users cannot know your work plan inside. Even in terms and conditions it says

We're all counted that mods as employeers of EpicNPC the trusted them with no cares. Terms and Conditions don't tell us mods aren't employee of this company and don't trust them.
(any user can easily think that mods are employee of epicnpc when they see big MODERATOR badge)

The biggest mistake here there isn't any information chart regarding this case even in known scams. there isn't " EXIT SCAM " in section of known scams. (They were all know that scam type but don't prefer to add known scams section IDK WHY)

In conclusion there isn't any precaution for it and if you're all put yourself into an user you easily think that you can trust a mod in epicnpc because they are employee of this site. and will trust them with no cares

so from now on you should add on welcome site " HELLO USER YOU SHOULDN'T TRUST ANYONE IN EPICNPC EVEN MODS CAN SCAM YOU!"

 

[Fluentcee]

To everyone upset with the actions taken in this unfortunate circumstance, you have to remember that precaution must be taken by the individual members using this site. No one can know when someone, even a trusted moderator, will decide to conduct a scam of any kind or scale. Engaging in any sort of online activity will be inherently risky, especially services that involve exchanging digital goods or currency. Users need to be prepared when using any such service, accepting that they may lose everything in the trade.

If you use Trade Guardian, the result of an investigation will generally result in a finding of no fault, some form of refund/ replacement requirement, or a ban of the user who refuses to comply with the outcome of the investigation. That's exactly what happened here. The scammer was banned.

There is no way that anyone here can be can be held accountable for the actions of another individual who is not an employee, even if they were a moderator. The Rules of this forum state that individuals, including moderators and global moderators, buying/selling/ trading are acting on their own and are not a representative of EpicNPC. There is no way to fully avoid the associated risks other than not trading or engaging in the services offered on this website entirely.

What happened was a crime, but the obligation to repay any money or disclose any information about the scammer illegally is not the proper response. I hope you can all understand that.

 

[giuliana]

To everyone upset with the actions taken in this unfortunate circumstance, you have to remember that precaution must be taken by the individual members using this site. No one can know when someone, even a trusted moderator, will decide to conduct a scam of any kind or scale. Engaging in any sort of online activity will be inherently risky, especially services that involve exchanging digital goods or currency. Users need to be prepared when using any such service, accepting that they may lose everything in the trade.

If you use Trade Guardian, the result of an investigation will generally result in a finding of no fault, some form of refund/ replacement requirement, or a ban of the user who refuses to comply with the outcome of the investigation. That's exactly what happened here. The scammer was banned.

There is no way that anyone here can be can be held accountable for the actions of another individual who is not an employee, even if they were a moderator. The Rules of this forum state that individuals, including moderators and global moderators, buying/selling/ trading are acting on their own and are not a representative of EpicNPC. There is no way to fully avoid the associated risks other than not trading or engaging in the services offered on this website entirely.

What happened was a crime, but the obligation to repay any money or disclose any information about the scammer illegally is not the proper response. I hope you can all understand that.

I do not agree with this response, you say disclosing information is not appropriate, so are you assuming that the scammer deserves to go unpunished when he carried out a 30k scam? This is a joke, really, any scammer deserves to be doxed, it's the only way they feel afraid for having harmed so many people.

 

[Fluentcee]

I'm just saying that doxing him without due process to legal authorities is illegal and obviously you can't expect the owner to do that. That's why EpicNPC says to file a police report and so that he can disclose it the right way, to the police. That way that the scammer can actually face justice, as he should. Just adding context. Not part of this or wanting to start a debate.

 

[giuliana]

For all those who were scammed via paypal friends and family there is a chance that they can refund the money through bank, it is tedious but it is possible, make the sacrifice and hopefully this situation will not be repeated again epicnpc is a website where thousands of dollars a day, the intermediary service is not cheap either and beyond the fact that you will not be scammed at the moment, it does not guarantee anything else in the future, In my opinion, scammers and more of this caliber do not deserve anything good in life. I hope they provide better security methods for this website that we love so much.

 

[giuliana]

I'm just saying that doxing him without due process to legal authorities is illegal and obviously you can't expect the owner to do that. That's why EpicNPC says to file a police report and so that he can disclose it the right way, to the police. That way that the scammer can actually face justice, as he should. Just adding context. Not part of this or wanting to start a debate.

It is not a debate, it is a statement, I believe that if you were in the place of the 8k that the guy lost, you would at least want the scammer and his entire family to die, this is a place where thousands of dollars are handled a day, we are not here to play Let's see what happens, but I won't discuss it further since at the end of the day we users don't have the right to our opinion.

 

[Savager@_@]

For all those who were scammed via paypal friends and family there is a chance that they can refund the money through it, it is tedious but it is possible, make the sacrifice and hopefully this situation will not be repeated again epicnpc is a website where thousands of dollars a day, the intermediary service is not cheap either and beyond the fact that you will not be scammed at the moment, it does not guarantee anything else in the future, In my opinion, scammers and more of this caliber do not deserve anything good in life. I hope they provide better security methods for this website that we love so much.

The problem with this is he had people convert money for him and send him money via bitcoin so this is a win lose situation for a lot of people

 

[giuliana]

The problem with this is he had people convert money for him and send him money via bitcoin so this is a win lose situation for a lot of people

is sadly but the people who pay paypal have the chance , for crypto f

 

[cal1nn]

yeah unless we take it to the police us who did crypto have 0 chances

 

[Ezger]

yeah unless we take it to the police us who did crypto have 0 chances

i think you can report to the wallet platform
i think: the Epicnpc team ( because they have reputation on the internet ) can make a major report about all this and file a report to the wallets
at least worth a try , but obviously we know the answer to that

 

[cal1nn]

I already tried that and they did not help me

 

[mudkip555]

I can confirm that Wunderkind was not hacked, that he is most likely exit scamming. I sent him $235 in bitcoin on 7/13 for 4 W101 codes. He provided 1 code that worked (which means it was most likely him and not a hacker, since why would a hacker have his codes available). He said the next 3 codes would be available in 5 days. After 2 weeks (today is 7/28), he has not provided them. Whenever I ask, he claims that they are "not ready yet", and has been saying that for the last week or so. They are just codes, so there's not reason to delay them, so it's safe to say there were no additional codes in the first place. It's funny because initially, I was only interested in buying 3, and only asked about the 4th one, and he kept urging me to get the last one by offering more discounts.

Here are some pics

So yeah, this guy is a scammer

 

[Troma178]

same thing with acronis which is crazy after I found out they’re linked properly wanted to exit scammed as wunder and then stay in the scene as Acronis

 

[mazdi]

I wonder how long will the scammed person continue to show up

 

[Ezger]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

he has a lot of clients that he made over the lasr few years, and he is using personal discord
as long as some of them dont know about this, he will bite every one of them and keep making profit

he needs to die or be thrown in jail

 

[Exotic101]

that 520€ that i got scammed was my Rent + food for next month, i will be kicked out of the house in August 02 if i dont pay
dont know where to go, or where to get money to eat
i have been a trusted seller in epicnpc since 2017 , i sold game accounts from 10€ up to 1150€ and i never had a problem
when clients dont like it i refund them
i don't use fake feedback like many here do to bump their reps, i dont pay for Mod to attract clients
i am LEGIT

but this is what i get in the end, and Epicnpc dont give a *** about my situation

yes you are totally right, I feel you brother I have been doing the same here too, I am here from 2017 and I hope you can pay your rent easily have some faith in god <3 Allah is with you habibi but next time try not to risk any necessary money for living, rent and food money should be left aside from any online transaction. but I can not blame you of course If it was me I would got scammed too.

 

[Exotic101]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

he has a lot of clients that he made over the lasr few years, and he is using personal discord
as long as some of them dont know about this, he will bite every one of them and keep making profit

he needs to die or be thrown in jail

you are totally right the discord is still scamming people until this moment unfortunately we tried to report it multiple times and nothing happened, I keep getting messages of people that got scammed over Discord. of course he did has relations and clients who wont check Epicnpc since they bought before and they are still being scammed until now.

 

[kimuwara]

@EpicNPC

 

[EpicNPC]

I checked out of an abundance of caution and there's no evidence to support the above claim. Ezger, please do not accuse random members of being a scammer.

 

[Kai]

I'm sorry to everyone affected by this. My heart goes out to all of you!

For those deciding on next steps, I would encourage anyone who used PayPal or other payment platforms to try and get your money back through the dispute process through your payment provider. If you are having challenges that way, you can always open a claim through your bank or credit card provider. This method does work, so it's worth a shot. Good luck!

 

[Kai]

Also we need to change the rule of investigating Discord disputes at least for mods and well known people, Cause like that you are opening for mods to scam maybe at least one a month? And they can just get away with it since it was on discord. And the negative rep will be removed easily, I am talking for mods and well known people like me at least.
Excuse my English for any mistakes

That's not entirely the case, if there is enough evidence to show clear involvement, it does get looked at. Mods or sellers trying to abuse the system, have and will continue to get banned here.

 

[mazdi]

You guys should add a section on site " MODS CAN ALSO SCAMS YOU " and then add that it on known scams section " QUIT SCAMMING " I didn't understand in spite of all of you know this scam type, you didn't want try to show it to your users. Treat like this scam type is a big secret therefore caused lots of users scammed. Then with banning you guys figured out the case ( in terms of you not users ) it seems you guys only care your profit and reputation. User ? Hah! who cares

 

[Exotic101]

I'm sorry to everyone affected by this. My heart goes out to all of you. I will be praying for you; stay strong!

For those deciding on next steps, I would encourage anyone who used PayPal or other payment platforms to try and get your money back through the dispute process through your payment provider. If you are having challenges that way, you can always open a claim through your bank or credit card provider. This method does work, so it's worth a shot. Good

The case is he made everyone convert his money into crypto where is no disputes and If I am gonna charge back I will be taking money from innocent Guy who just converted paypal to crypto for him, It was all planned well. Everything is in crypto

 

[cal1nn]

@recneps321 have you proceeded something against him?

 

[mudkip555]

Any updates on the situation?

 

[Ezger]

Any updates on the situation?

i dont know why is this thread still open

careful using your money in epicnpc, 0 protection

only use paypal via your bank, incase something happens you can call your bank to refund the amount
just try to limit your epicnpc usage as much as you can