Wunderkind scam of 755$

[BlakeMistHand]

i swear i was about to refuse the trade cause that amount is my rent and food for next 2 weeks,
he sounded smooth and insisted, i suspected it but i went to Stree if this Wunderkind is legit, Stree confirmed his Mod rank is not fake
i went for the trade , now i dont have living for next week

i mean, my money went to Ascendance
somebody else's money went to Kuwa and we cant anything about it

Same, since I've bought from him before, I felt comfortable with purchasing. I was SO CLOSE about backing out of the deal but then he gave me an offer I couldn't refuse.

 

[punklordementality]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@Wunderkind Scammed me out of $1000 for the SAME "2008 wizard101 account featuring the valor sword frontier dragon and more" BlakeMistHand was also scammed for yesterday at 11am PST via discord. I have screenshot proof of this! DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM

Here's almost all of the screenshot proof @EpicNPC @kimuwara @Ascendance_

 

[punklordementality]

I don't know, it doesn't say

That $998.98 and $0.01 transaction was definitely from/with me @Ascendance_ @kimuwara

 

[kimuwara]

@EpicNPC

 

[Angel]

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[recneps321]

Found an old transaction I made with him back in March and the email to the paypal was [email protected]

don't know if that helps in anyway

 

[punklordementality]

 

[rosieflower]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Bro got over 1k out of me with the same situation as @BlakeMistHand, I confronted him on discord once I'd seen the reviews and this is all he said before removing me.

 

[recneps321]

@EpicNPC
I know you guys don't deal with things that don't happen on TradeGaurdian but we bought from this guy because he was a mod and we trusted that. It is over 10k that has been stolen give us some info on who he is if you guys decide to not do anything.

 

[Ezger]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

obviously that Dog on discord is the same Wunderkind , even Ascendance showed me some screenshots about their trade that Wunderkind scammed me with, he is the same profile and they were both talking about the same amount on paypal.

some of us spoke to him on discord , he mocked some, and denied his identity and blocked them all

 

[AnitaPoosay]

Scammed as well for $1000 btc which was meant to be exchanged into paypal. Unfortunate reality of this type of business. May he get banned and then if we can get dox, that'd be amazing. Thanks

 

[punklordementality]

@EpicNPC -- I know you guys don't deal with things that don't happen on TradeGuardian but we bought from this guy because he was a Verified mod and we trusted that. It is now over $11,000 that has been stolen-- give us some info on who he is if you guys decide to not do anything about this.

 

[Ezger]

am waiting for a clarification about what will happen here, i have rent for next month in 5 days + groceries

 

[cal1nn]

@EpicNPC drop his location and id

 

[EpicNPC]

We do not give out other members sensitive data. I'm sorry.

 

[Ezger]

We do not give out other members sensitive data. I'm sorry.

you kidding me right ? he pays 10$ to get Mod rank
he scam people for 14k

and we get no refund, no info ? nothing ?
he is a scammer ! what are you protecting ?

 

[EpicNPC]

We have never given out sensitive data. Only chat usernames and emails. You asked for location info which we will not provide. I'm sorry.

I'm giving Wunderkind some extra time to resolve these disputes. If they are not resolved within 10 days, we will post his know contact info.

 

[mazdi]

I scammed also

 

[cal1nn]

no ****ing way victims still show up

 

[doomedtofail]

you kidding me right ? he pays 10$ to get Mod rank
he scam people for 14k

and we get no refund, no info ? nothing ?
he is a scammer ! what are you protecting ?

Not involved but can explain. While at end of day it would be great to be able to give out sensitive information so people can try to get a refund or recovery, Privacy laws protect the release of information that is stored, even scammers from getting their information released. Any release of said information with out a court order is violation of laws in many countries.

 

[cal1nn]

what if one of use brings this to the court because the guy who lost 8k wants to. you would be forced to release the info?

 

[cal1nn]

@EpicNPC

 

[Ezger]

@EpicNPC
the scammer @Wunderkind used Ascendance as middle payment point,
i have proof of my payment via Paypal,
Ascendance also admitted it that he traded my money with the scammer
the scammer was a moderator
we made the deal on epicnpc chat not outside

so you already banned the scammer, but that doesnt pay my rent or groceries for next month, am at edge of getting kicked out of the house
i need my money back so i can survive this, you have every details you need

 

[cal1nn]

i believe the fact that its not accepted to release this kind of personal info is just making it a little harder for us but not impossible. since he left marks in many places someone who knows how to get through boundries can find his ip and locate him and then it aint about money anymore. personally i will save money once i am done with my payments for grandma find some hacker to locate him and catch a flight straight to his crib and then we will see what happens. its the last thing to steal money in any scenario but stealing when you know the person has huge problems irl and needs it more than ever its another story
i will get through this but what about ezger who cant pay his rent? we have to help him

 

[mazdi]

He scammed me 120$ I have all of proofs

He scammed me 120$ I have all of proofs

 

[Savager@_@]

Damn this situation sucks, but i'm also kind of apart of it wunder came to me asking me to send him bitcoin and his customer will cash app me. I decided to say all this so the admins can know the severity of the situation and how many people were apart of it. I say release his information he scammed everyone combined out of probably 20-30k at this point

 

[Savager@_@]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@EpicNPC CM Wunder just dmed me on discord threating to Dox me so if you have information on him its only right to post his info especially if hes doxing members of ur forum I cant be the only one cause im barely involved in this ****

 

[punklordementality]

@EpicNPC CM Wunder just dmed me on discord threating to Dox me so if you have information on him its only right to post his info especially if hes doxing members of ur forum I cant be the only one cause im barely involved in this ****

@EpicNPC @EpicNPC CM @EpicNPC Mod

 

[Ezger]

72 hours passed , and Epicnpc Staff is not doing anything
they havent gave us any info about what is happening , or what could happen
looks like its just another closed thread and nobody cares

the victims we did chat for 2 days and extracted every information they need
- the crypto adresses
- paypal transactions and amounts
- they have the scammer id and info

why dont they file a major report about this to the scammer's Crypto platform and help us file a report to Paypal
surely they have reputation and they know about the process,

we need a hint about the situation so either we move on in life or keep hanging to hope

 

[Pirate Lord]

-450$

 

[Ezger]

He was supposed to transfer money to my clients and just took it and stopped responding
Maybe you shouldn't give every other Moderator on EpicNPC? They take personal advantage of it, they can also do bigg exit scam. In this case people trusted him because he is a Moderator on your site.

this is bullshit to be honest
still have 6 days to pay my rent and epicnpc staff doesnt even reply

 

[cal1nn]

after this is concluded i am done with epicnpc you dont give a **** about its community

 

[EpicNPC]

Wunderkind has contacted us to claim his Epicnpc, Discord, email, phone (2FA) were all compromised. Checking his Epicnpc account data, there is no evidence to support the account was compromised.

We are acting under the assumption this is a false claim and this is indeed an exit scam. Wunderkind stated he will try to resolve all issues, but will need some time.

As your issues are resolved, please post an update here. We'll leave this thread opened for a few weeks to see if any of these disputes can be settled.

 

[Ezger]

Wunderkind has contacted us to claim his Epicnpc, Discord, email, phone (2FA) were all compromised. Checking his Epicnpc account data, there is no evidence to support the account was compromised.

We are acting under the assumption this is a false claim and this is indeed an exit scam. Wunderkind stated he will try to resolve all issues, but will need some time.

As your issues are resolved, please post an update here. We'll leave this thread opened for a few weeks to see if any of these disputes can be settled.

how long would that be Sir ? i am extremely tight on time
i dont mind to wait to get a result at the end, but as things are really bad here ,
i need a hint about how long ?

 

[EpicNPC]

He did not provide a timeline, but stated it would be more than 10 days which I had originally posted above.

 

[BlakeMistHand]

Wunderkind has contacted us to claim his Epicnpc, Discord, email, phone (2FA) were all compromised. Checking his Epicnpc account data, there is no evidence to support the account was compromised.

We are acting under the assumption this is a false claim and this is indeed an exit scam. Wunderkind stated he will try to resolve all issues, but will need some time.

As your issues are resolved, please post an update here. We'll leave this thread opened for a few weeks to see if any of these disputes can be settled.

@EpicNPC You just admitted that there's no evidence to support that his account was compromised and that it was indeed an exit scam. Why are we giving him more time to "resolve" this issue? I'm sure you guys have a legal team you can work with, right? Why don't you turn over his information to them?

 

[Ezger]

He did not provide a timeline, but stated it would be more than 10 days which I had originally posted above.

looks like i am going to be kicked out of the house at the end , in 02/08
i will definitely make this public on reddit and other forums

a Mod that scamms people for over 20k and the owners cannot do anything

 

[mazdi]

@EpicNPC You just admitted that there's no evidence to support that his account was compromised and that it was indeed an exit scam. Why are we giving him more time to "resolve" this issue? I'm sure you guys have a legal team you can work with, right? Why don't you turn over his information to them?

I am also wondering about this. 10 days is a very long time and our friend Ezger is in a very difficult situation. I think someone needs to take action on this issue.
A large majority of users, including me, who use the exchange service were involved in this incident

We can't normalize quit scamming. If this is a known scam, it shows that this incident has happened before. Didn't the admins take precautions for this before? Can anyone become a moderator easily?

 

[cal1nn]

so you are saying you are acting like it is an exit scam but giving him time like his account was compromised. not doing what you re preaching

 

[Meebling]

If I had known this was going on, I wouldn’t have listened when he was trying to sell a Wizard101 account to me the other day

Oh well, it is what it is

 

[EpicNPC]

Disclaimer: The claims and amount totals below have not been confirmed.
It appears most communication was on Discord with the exception of cal1nn and Ezger.

cal1nn = $755 USD
LowX = 100$
Ezger = 520€
BlakeMistHand = $550
punklordementality = $1000
recneps321 = 8k in eth
kimuwara = 899 usdc
rosieflower = $1000
AnitaPoosay = $1000 btc
mazdi = $120

Total = $13,400 which is very close to the $20-30k reported above.

I'm sorry, but we do not investigate disputes unless Trade Guardian is used. However due to the amount of reports and evidence provided we took action regardless to remove this member as a moderator one day after the first report and they were banned one day after that.

EpicNPC does not have the resources to investigate every dispute reported. This is why our dispute resolution services are limited to Trade Guardian transactions only. This is an optional service, but we will not investigate disputes otherwise. I'm sorry.

I recommend contacting Discord support for assistance as nearly all communications occurred there.

We do not post members sensitive data for legal reasons. If you were scammed, please file a police report. We can provide this data if we are contacted by law enforcement via an official government channel or a court ordered subpoena.

 

[cal1nn]

recneps has already got a lawyer and proceeding to file a report

 

[Ezger]

Disclaimer: The claims and amount totals below have not been confirmed.
It appears most communication was on Discord with the exception of cal1nn and Ezger.

cal1nn = $755 USD
LowX = 100$
Ezger = 520€
BlakeMistHand = $550
punklordementality = $1000
recneps321 = 8k in eth
kimuwara = 899 usdc
rosieflower = $1000
AnitaPoosay = $1000 btc
mazdi = $120

Total = $13,400 which is very close to the $20-30k reported above.

I'm sorry, but we do not investigate disputes unless Trade Guardian is used. However due to the amount of reports and evidence provided we took action regardless to remove this member as a moderator one day after the first report and they were banned one day after that.

EpicNPC does not have the resources to investigate every dispute reported. This is why our dispute resolution services are limited to Trade Guardian transactions only. This is an optional service, but we will not investigate disputes otherwise. I'm sorry.

I recommend contacting Discord support for assistance as nearly all communications occurred there.

We do not post members sensitive data for legal reasons. If you were scammed, please file a police report. We can provide this data if we are contacted by law enforcement via an official government channel or a court ordered subpoena.

owww
myyy
god !!!

this is the EPIC bullshit of all bullshit
my deal with him was done on epicnpc chat, not on any external platform
you have all the evidence to file a refund from Paypal and all the Crypto wallets, but instead you cover the scammer

 

[Ezger]

@EpicNPC
and what about us huh !!!
we got scammed on your platform by a Moderator that you gave rank to

i have been a decent and legit seller for 8 years ! this is what i get ?

 

[EpicNPC]

my deal with him was done on epicnpc chat, not on any external platform

Yes, I stated this above. You and cal1nn conducted your loan via chat on EpicNPC. However chat is not Trade Guardian and will not be investigated. I'm sorry.

EpicNPC does not offer any warranty or guarantee even when Trade Guardian is used, so I'm not sure what you're asking in this situation. Are you stating that Epicnpc should guarantee all transactions conducted by every moderator and be financially responsible if there's a dispute or scam?

We have done everything we plan to do. The user was removed as a moderator within 30 hrs, then banned within 24 hrs of that.

As stated above, we will provide their personal information to law enforcement or a court order subpoena.

I do not plan to reply any further as I'm an already repeating myself.

As we receive reports of disputes resolved or if Wunderkind contacts us again, I will update the thread at those times.

 

[Ezger]

Yes, I stated this above. You and cal1nn conducted your loan via chat on EpicNPC. However chat is not Trade Guardian and will not be investigated. I'm sorry.

EpicNPC does not offer any warranty or guarantee even when Trade Guardian is used, so I'm not sure what you're asking in this situation. Are you stating that Epicnpc should guarantee all transactions conducted by every moderator and be financially responsible if there's a dispute or scam?

We have done everything we plan to do. The user was removed as a moderator within 30 hrs, then banned within 24 hrs of that.

As stated above, we will provide their personal information to law enforcement or a court order subpoena.

I do not plan to reply any further as I'm an already repeating myself.

As we receive reports of disputes resolved or if Wunderkind contacts us again, I will update the thread at those times.

this is definitely going public
enjoy

 

[mazdi]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

hahahaha really? So you're saying that the person you authorized as an EPICNPC moderator doesn't concern you if they communicate with all of us via discord and do business with us? Then local or global moderators have the right to scam us via discord and if we have a problem, we're at fault not because they broke the forum rules and directed us to discord but because we trusted them as moderators. Oh by the way, doesn't moderator mean the authorized authority on the site? Don't we go to the moderators when we have a problem?

Moderators are responsible for the forum rules, but when they break what they're responsible for and drag us into it, they're safe with the money they've stolen and we're left hanging like pieces of ****. You're also responsible for what the person you authorized does and you can't just get away with it! Because you're the boss and wunderkind was the manager. The mistakes the manager makes affect the company and we, as users, can't pay the price for it, sorry, we're not stupid. There is indeed a big scam going on and you are still on the scammer's side, but you are as responsible for this scam as the person who did it because it was done by someone you authorized and you should not just direct us to the police and run away from this situation. You should also cooperate because the culprits of this scam are not the victims but those who created such a gap!

 

[cal1nn]

hahahaha really? So you're saying that the person you authorized as an EPICNPC moderator doesn't concern you if they communicate with all of us via discord and do business with us? Then local or global moderators have the right to scam us via discord and if we have a problem, we're at fault not because they broke the forum rules and directed us to discord but because we trusted them as moderators. Oh by the way, doesn't moderator mean the authorized authority on the site? Don't we go to the moderators when we have a problem?

Moderators are responsible for the forum rules, but when they break what they're responsible for and drag us into it, they're safe with the money they've stolen and we're left hanging like pieces of **** as the scammers. You're also responsible for what the person you authorized does and you can't just get away with it! Because you're the boss and wunderkind was the manager. The mistakes the manager makes affect the company and we, as users, can't pay the price for it, sorry, we're not stupid. There is indeed a big scam going on and you are still on the scammer's side, but you are as responsible for this scam as the person who did it because it was done by someone you authorized and you should not just direct us to the police and run away from this situation. You should also cooperate because the culprits of this scam are not the victims but those who created such a gap!

i was about to say it

 

[shanks0]

Well, Ig that makes sense why he doesn't answer me anymore about our trade, just adding $125 to his impressive list of scams. I wasnt expecting that from a moderator, I swear if he didnt have this title I would have never bought his suspicious offer, but he had it so I got scammed just like everyone on this post sadly.

 

[mazdi]

Well, Ig that makes sense why he doesn't answer me anymore about our trade, just adding $125 to his impressive list of scams. I wasnt expecting that from a moderator, I swear if he didnt have this title I would have never bought his suspicious offer, but he had it so I got scammed just like everyone on this post sadly.

omg still victims show up