User - bdoevoacc4sale impersonating multiple verified Users

[AZURAKAGAMI]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 20.05.2021
Date the problem began:24.05.2021 - The day victim contacted me
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: @bdoevoacc4sale
Your Instant Messenger ID: @pavelli

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/tokoyami-account-eu-max-10-€.1950438/
Approximate value of the property: 10 - 20EURO
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? --

What is the dispute about? Scammer/Hacker/User @bdoevoacc4sale is impersonating multiple verified people including me. He is spoofing his Discord ID almost without any mistakes (even ID after hashtag). He scammed user @pavelli via Discord. I would like to notify all EpicNPC members that I do not add people on my own. I only add them if they contact me here on EpicNPC first. As a relatively new member, I could not believe, that someone is impersonating me already. Please, be aware of it.

Other details/notes: All chat logs between me and the victim will be attached down below + proof that user @pavelli got scammed.

Regards,

K

Proof
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[pavelli]

I'm the guy who is reporting it, i would like to add that after i started to report him he gave a negative feedback to my account and i would like it to be removed because it proves nothing and its just a a try to attack me pointlessly

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

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first of all, I don't play mobile games. I have no idea of this game you are talking about. The only games I sell here are games I've played and those are Black Desert, Rainbow Six Siege, AQW, and 1 steam account with 3 games. I would never impersonate anyone because I'm not that kind of person. I've sold an account worth 450$ without a middleman and the buyer even sent the money first.

and second, my user id doesn't have "-" before the letter "b"

and third, I don't even have a discord nitro and my number is #9590 and I definitely don't use anime pictures as profile picture lmao (except for berserk xD)
also I use the same email address I use with my Paypal. Paypal is the only mode of payment I use and I have proof that I never had any transaction with this guy - refer to this thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1953160/

and lastly, I'm NOT the one who looks for buyers of certain games. I just wait for buyers to pm me here on epicnpc or discord. If a buyer messaged me on discord first, then I make sure to confirm the buyer by asking them to message me on epicnpc.

example:

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

@pavelli Please, reply.

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

LOL! this impostor you transact with accepts mode of payments i never used. I only ask PAYPAL for all payment.
THIS GUY SOLD OVER 20 ACCOUNTS OF A GAME I DON'T EVEN KNOW EXIST. I've only sold 2 game accounts here on epicnpc since i joined this website.

Look at these games I sell man. Do I look like a mobile gamer to you?

 

[pavelli]

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Imma just answer very rapidly because I'm tired of these bullshits argumentation.
Showing a random discord account without nitro proves anything, I could make one too and post a photo right here.
Same thing for the fact that you really sold an account to a bunch of people.
I don't care if you were honest with two or more people, I know for sure that you scammed me that's all.
And you don't need to sell mobile games to scam someone, you just have to send a screenshot of an account and change your discord nick to do it.
I could go into the world of warcraft section save a photo of a endgame account post, send it a to a guy (with my discord Nick changed) and scam him even if I don't sell pc games.
I'm tired of these stupid argomentations, it's like stealing something and saying "it can't be me, I was honest 3 times with 3 people", I don't care if you were honest with 3 people, you scammed one and that's why you were reported.
Under the division account the guy he's selling now there is another nick in the description , if there is an ad mind right here he just have to check the edit history and he will find it.
Stop creating other accounts with the same name and showing them as a proof

 

[pavelli]

Do you really all think I would lose time answering and all without having any proofs?

 

[pavelli]

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The funny thing is that i reporting him and wasting my time even if he will not be reported because this is a discord dispute.

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

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Imma just answer very rapidly because I'm tired of these bullshits argumentation.
Showing a random discord account without nitro proves anything, I could make one too and post a photo right here.
Same thing for the fact that you really sold an account to a bunch of people.
I don't care if you were honest with two or more people, I know for sure that you scammed me that's all.
And you don't need to sell mobile games to scam someone, you just have to send a screenshot of an account and change your discord nick to do it.
I could go into the world of warcraft section save a photo of a endgame account post, send it a to a guy (with my discord Nick changed) and scam him even if I don't sell pc games.
I'm tired of these stupid argomentations, it's like stealing something and saying "it can't be me, I was honest 3 times with 3 people", I don't care if you were honest with 3 people, you scammed one and that's why you were reported.
Under the division account the guy he's selling now there is another nick in the description , if there is an ad mind right here he just have to check the edit history and he will find it.
Stop creating other accounts with the same name and showing them as a proof

showing random discord account? are you insane? that is the discord user id that was advertised on my sell post and is linked to my personal email. Email that I also use as my PAYPAL email.
"sold an account to a bunch of people" what? I ONLY SOLD 2 ACCOUNTS ON THIS SITE, how many times do I have to say that? there's already a screenshot for that. are you blind?
the fact that I don't play a damn mobile game that you are trying to buy and accept any payments aside from PAYPAL is already proof I'm not the one you transact with. How thick-headed can you be?
You are the only one with stupid arguments, not me.

The other discord ID under that "the division post" was back when I sold to Volraad and I can show you that the old discord account still has the same ID now and it has no fckn nitro

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

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Just imagine how dumb this is. You are literally reporting me for selling you a game I never played and never heard of which is a mobile game. A platform I never use for playing. Check all my sell posts. "PAYPAL only" check all the genres of games I posted to sell. Literally no mobile games and definitely nothing of that Tokoyomi bullshit game you are accusing me of. And seriously? that guy who has the same discord name as me use a picture of a tiny anime girl with blonde hair? really dude? I'm fckn 26 yrs old I ain't about that weeb sh*t

 

[Alice.]

Just to clarify and not taking sides
Cashapp is sole US and UK based
It does not work on my country / nor its even meant for my country
But who knows

 

[pavelli]

Just to clarify and not taking sides
Cashapp is sole US and UK based
It does not work on my country / nor its even meant for my country
But who knows

What do you want to say with this?

 

[Alice.]

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What do you want to say with this?

The one you are talking with have cashapp as his payment option(CashAPP is only US/UK based)
Which isnt avaiable for PH , in which the accused is from
but idk maybe someone else is involve or whatever
Next time . try to chat here first in epicnpc before you try contacting anyone in Discord

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

Next time . try to chat here first in epicnpc before you try contacting anyone in Discord

Unfortunately, only people with common sense do this

 

[pavelli]

Oh thank you for the explanation, yeah I know I should pm here but I didn't knew it befire.
I guess I learned a lesson, but now i have to report this guy

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

Oh thank you for the explanation, yeah I know I should pm here but I didn't knew it befire.
I guess I learned a lesson, but now i have to report this guy

report me for what? mistaken identity? what a way to ruin someone's reputation over something I did not do. I'm trying to build a good rep here in order for me to sell all my other r6 accounts but you just ruined it for me because a random guy scammed you with the same name as me and you assume I'm the same guy. Logic not found

 

[Angel]

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I am not sure what i have read here. Is there any real evidence that @bdoevoacc4sale is the impersonator? We do not accept discord as proof unless there is match with the member payment method

 

[pavelli]

Unfortunately i paid this ****er with a steam card which is the worst method possible, and unfortunately there is no evidence, i have my receipt but i dont know it it matters.
I can try to contact steam but i dont know if they will help me.

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

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I am not sure what i have read here. Is there any real evidence that @bdoevoacc4sale is the impersonator? We do not accept discord as proof unless there is match with the member payment method

Sir, If a buyer messaged me on discord first, I always ask them to send me a message on epicnpc site for confirmation that I am chatting with a legitimate buyer. I never had any conversation with this Pavelli guy

 

[pavelli]

can i ask at least the have my negative feedback removed? he gave me one only because i accused him, out of spike.

 

[pavelli]

Sir, If a buyer messaged me on discord first, I always ask them to send me a message on epicnpc site for confirmation that I am chatting with a legitimate buyer. I never had any conversation with this Pavelli guy

stop sending this photos claiming to be the good guy respecting the rules, because WE ALL KNOW the anyone can do that and still scam people.
It's more common than you think

 

[AZURAKAGAMI]

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UPDATE:

I am closing this ticket due to a lack of specific evidence for the suspect. I will leave the remaining evidence that my client provided. There is no direct evidence of the suspect although he could be the scammer with multiple discord accounts. I will reopen this ticket again if some necessary evidence will be found.

K

 

[pavelli]

ticket closed then, just delete the negative feedback if you can or investigate about it

 

[bdoevoacc4sale]

stop sending this photos claiming to be the good guy respecting the rules, because WE ALL KNOW the anyone can do that and still scam people.
It's more common than you think

STOP TRYING TO FORCE THIS **** ON ME DUDE. THE GUY WHO SCAMMED YOU ACCEPTS MODE OF PAYMENTS THAT IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN MY HOME COUNTRY! WHAT MORE DO YOU FCKN WANT?

 

[Angel]

Moving this on the offsite scammer's forum.

@bdoevoacc4sale @pavelli please open a feedback dispute to get your negative feedback removed