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Dispute Against
ricegang
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Information
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Purchase Date: March 3, 2022
Date the problem began: March 9, 2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord (User ID: 748614977404928091), EpicNPC.
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]
Your Instant Messenger ID:

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-tmr-716-acc-with-yabaki-and-ganda.2169407/
Approximate value of property: $325.00 USD (Total spent: $379.34, Fees Detail: Coinbase fee $29.89, MM fee: $24.45, Account cost: $325.00)
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? 54906

What is the dispute about? The account got banned after 6 days of using the account.

Other details / notes / Proof:
Email I received.

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When I try to log in on Glyph, this shows up.
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Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
I can investigate this further. But seeing has the user immediately tried to flip this account. And did not take any safety precautions to insure the integrity of the account, i do not think any lf this is related to me whatsoever, I took precautions. As I do with any account, you can see my rep on "Bluntpanther" aswell.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Proof he did nothing to secure integrity of account when trying to resell
 

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Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
You understand we are talking about a 1 of 8 in the world mount correct?
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
@EpicNPC CM
Is there anyway to get this trade with caution removed? I'm still trying to sell my tarkov account, and seeing as this clearly was not my doing I'd rather not scare away customers
 
1.Currently registered email address on the account: (i will provide)

2.Account creation date: 2016 something (Ricegang can you help provide? It should be deep in your email, look for the registering email)

3.Date of birth: (Ricegang can you provide or we can skip if you don't remember)

4.Country of the account: (Ricegang can you help provide?)

5.Security Question 1: What is your favorite video game of all time? (I will provide)

6.Security Question 2: What is the name of your favorite movie? (I will provide)

7.Character names, levels, and server/region: (can you provide with the previous name and the server you usually play (i forgot to check which you played on), the rest I will provide)

8.First and Last name: (Ricegang can you help provide? otherwise skip)

9.Last 4 digits of the credit card: (skip)

10.Order numbers or Transaction IDs: (not sure)
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Seeing as I'm not the original owner there is not much for me to provide, and I'm not sure what you did to expose the account, are you trying to recall this account from someone else you sold it to by chance?
 
This is all to verify the account, then get details about why the account was banned. I'm requesting the information from you as you are the original owner, also because you have the information. Although you've passed the account to me, there are some information I don't know about. I also haven't sold the account so please do not jump to conclusions, for all I know, you could had been the one who reported the account thus are responsible for the ban. So let's work together and clear this first before jumping into further conclusions.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
As I stated above I am NOT the original owner, and I have never claimed to be
 
This is just a note: Ricegang is being quite suspicious and delaying the investigation, I don't even know if he has even tried to investigate the situation, given that he didn't provide anything.

I am looking at the bright side that ringgang is totally innocent and it had been my result of not being careful. But there's also the possibility of ricegang being the one who reported the account. I am going through this with a open mind and if in the end really isn't ricegang who reported the account. I take full responsibility for getting the account banned by other users.

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Note: Ricegang doesn't seem to remember his own account name, granted he has had it for 4 years. (Gave no effort in recalling his account name, it's not tinkysinky).
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
I had this account for over 3 years, and havnt played in over a year and a half, please don't expect me to suddenly recall everything just because you ask.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
I've sold accounts for years as you can see on my bluntpanther epicnpc, but have also never sold to someone incompetent enough to resell 1 hour after purchasing, and showing FULL name and details.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
I am unsure who it is anymore, but I know they weren't on the site, I can so my best to remember who and attempt contact
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Looks like it was on playerauctions, but I'm not sure I can reopen the conversation
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Currently just awaiting responses from previous owner
 
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I'll request another one when we get all the information. Once you have the information, you can just send it towards the discord.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Hello, seeing as he had full account possession, and went out of his way to resell the account without taking any security precautions, this reliability is souly on him
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
A refund will not be given as my side of the deal was in fact completed, what he did with the account, or what he did to get it banned is not my fault, I cannot be held responsible for what a buyer chooses to do after a purchase
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
I've sold many accounts as you can see on my other epicnpc account, and have never hsd this happen but have also never sold to a buyer who took absolutely zero precaution, I hope you understand
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Yubaki is one of only about 5 in the world, which means the account is a target, the ban could of been a result of him reselling gone wrong, someone reporting his account after seeing his resell post, or anything else. The account was not in my possession and this is not my fault
 
I came here with an open mind and I've tried my best to figure out who reported the account to no avail on figuring out if your innocent or not. As that would solve everything and I do find your words reasonable but I'll say it again, I will take full responsibility if the person who reported the account isn't you. But since we can't figure out who that person is and you make it sound like you aren't willing to help recovering the account. But if you were to help recover the account, I think the only way is probably asking for the original owner to try to reclaim which hypothetically would unban the account but I really doubt that. Also judging that there isn't any update from the original owner replying back any time soon, it seems he won't be of help. I don't see any other way then a refund.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
Why would I report an account I sold, just to give myself a headache and cause myself issues? It sounds like you are trying to pin this on me and use me as a scapegoat for your amateur mistake, please use this as a learning lesson not to be so wreckless
 
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I truly want to believe that you are innocent but without any proof, I really can't help as I tried my best, I really did. Unless you have any other suggestions please don't mind and share. Otherwise, please send me a message in discord and I will send my BTC wallet as refund payment.
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
You won't be getting a refund, epic, please do the right thing, I should not suffer becuase of someone naive trying to resell
 
Banned - fail to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trove-account-ban.2183193/page-3
This is not reasonable at all, as I am still out money for something i didn't do, I took all the precautions I needed to take, and he did not take any
 
EpicNPC made it so it would be a win win scenario, if you can't see that, I can't help you. Yes I can see from your perspective if you are innocent it would hurt you a little, Just think as if you bought it for half the price of the original price. But if you weren't innocent it would just be one sided, your side. Also if I were to get full payment then it would be my side but EpicNPC generously offered a 50% so that both party win and given that we can't proven if your innocent or not, it is reasonable. If you still can't get that, @EpicNPC I'd like to request full victim funds as I want to end this dispute.
 
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