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Alright. Im going to be relatively brief on what I sold, for thats not the subject Im addressing. I sold two World of Warcraft accounts (A 70 druid in full venge/brutal, and a 70 rogue in full merciless). The buyer sent me a total of $650.00 USD. Once he/she recieved my full account information and had the accounts fully in their possession, they recalled the $650.00 USD. It was recalled within 6 minutes of me recieving it. Sigh.

Anyhow, the money was refunded to the buyer and paypal's so called investigation concluded that I would not be re-embersed due to the items I sold were not tangible/physical goods. So apparently they aren't covered. The buyer recieved their money back, and here I am with nothing. HOWEVER.....



After being incredibly pissed off, I committed my time to researching this person and obtaining all the information I could muster. I happen to have gathered so much information (Relatives, Every place they have lived at, Birthdate, Schools, Mothers maiden name, etc). Now... on to the juicy stuff...


The user that stole my accounts, has a "yahoo" email as their registered paypal email. I have gathered enough information to successfully use the "Password Reset" to their yahoo email, and gain access to it. Then, I can use the "Forgot Password" option at the Paypal login screen and request a password reset. I can then have access to their paypal account and do anything at my own discretion.

Now heres the sticky part. Apparently paypal happens to have a policy where you "CANNOT" file a second dispute over the same product. If I were to log into this persons paypal, send myself the $650.00 USD, (keep in mind Im planning on doing this from a local computer, possibly a library to keep my connection information masked), then this person couldn't do jack piss about it.




So, the question is, to retaliate... or not to? Should I just let it go? Or should I grab this situation by the horns and F*** this person back? Looking for opinions, and yes I understand their are possible consequences, but thats why Im asking for opinions. Thanks for your time guys.
 
well, that being said there are a few consequences that could come back and make you Butt Hurt. As payapl can retain all IP logs on to the said account trace them to w/e public place you use and look at the time stamps of who was on the PC as the time of the event pointing to you. Another option you have is now that you have this persons information you can file a police report as well as bring them to small claims court.


And as far as your accounts go you can always recall them. And if you are the OO/have ID to the said account in question can have the SQ n A changed as well as unlock/freeze the account.
Thats just my opinion on the matter.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: toemic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well, that being said there are a few consequences that could come back and make you Butt Hurt. As payapl can retain all IP logs on to the said account trace them to w/e public place you use and look at the time stamps of who was on the PC as the time of the event pointing to you. Another option you have is now that you have this persons information you can file a police report as well as bring them to small claims court.


And as far as your accounts go you can always recall them. And if you are the OO/have ID to the said account in question can have the SQ n A changed as well as unlock/freeze the account.
Thats just my opinion on the matter. </div></div>



I appreciate your response. The thing about taking the person to small claims court, I believe is simply out of the matter. Mainly because, it's against Blizzards policy to sell/trade accounts in the first place, so if I did go to court, I'd have no ground to stand on. I would easily lose.

So.. Im thinking I either should just let it go, but I feel as if I could still find a loop hole here to get revenge. Still thinking, and still working at it. Thanks again for your response, more are appreciated.




**Oh and quick edit**

You brought up the fact that I can recall the accounts. Technically, it won't matter. The person already transfered the characters off the accounts to fresh ones. And once thats done, it's literally hell to try and do anything about it, and Blizzard deffinately loves to take their time in these situations. World of Warcraft will have gone into virtual reality before I ever see those characters again.
 
The case would not be over the char it self what was sold was the time and effort put into it as i am sure blizzard does not own your time (well maybe) but any matter where money is involved is able to be taken to court =)
 
Hacking another persons paypal account this way would be illegal and immoral, and shouldn't be posted about in the forums.
 
oh ace, your always the one to bring out the least fun in every situation
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but i have to agree with him, of you did the paypal thing, and he took you to court, you would MINIMUM be charged with online fraud (felony, you could get jail time) and probably more. plus, he could take you to a civil court and get a heap of money by sueing you for getting on his email account and his paypal account.

you saying that he scammed you out of a WoW account will be overlooked, i assure you.

best practice is to recall the accounts, say that your characters were xfered by someone else, etc.

the last thing you can do is get the SQA from the account he xfered to by doing a SQA retrival. im sure someone here has the link, just ask, and then recall that/those account(s) too, just so you have it all. the last name has to be the same, so just make sure you get the SQA, and viola!, back to you
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