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Seller refuse to refund after the account is disabled (Epic Seven)

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NoahN

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Information
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Purchase Date: January 21, 2021
The date the problem began: January 22, 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] https://www.epicnpc.com/members/kimi11.828743/ on EpicNPC or LyiiL#5192 on discord
Your Instant Messenger ID: NoahN on EpicNPC or Yoshi#4295 on discord

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/global-server-7-ml-5.1840500/
The approximate value of the property: $220.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
- I've decided to buy an Epic Seven account from this seller. After I've paid in full, the seller then provides me with the google account details to access the account. Which I then attempt to log into the google account and change password, due to the high security of google and different IP address login, Google decided to disable the account temporarily. Then we try to recover the google account but couldn't because the seller has lost the recovery phone number linked in the google account and without it, we cannot recover it. Now, the seller intended to keep the money after cannot recover the google account due to his loss of the recovery phone number with much more details of his in the google account and leave me with nothing. It's been 3 days but the conversation I've had with the seller is not going anywhere and the seller kept decided to keep my money and will not agree to a refund.

Other details/notes:
- The seller doesn't want to talk much so this conversation has been going on for about 3 days now and nothing happened

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
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Other proof:
- Seller didn't reply to my messages intentionally because the seller immediately checks EpicNPC for a dispute thread a few minutes after I've told him.
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
- Google account details of username and password to log in

How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
- 5 minutes, at the moment I've successfully log in and change password

If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)
 
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@NoahN Can you please show discord ID screenshot and the email you sent payment to?

@Kimi11 Respond here please.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
@NoahN Can you please show discord ID screenshot and the email you sent payment to?

@Kimi11 Respond here please.

Okay, here is the email I sent the payment to : [email protected]. And do you know how can I screenshot discord ID? Is LyiiL#5192 the discord ID? Thank you!
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
Yes, im here
 
@Kimi11 Okay... are you going to address this issue? You not having the phone recovery is not your customers fault. You must refund him.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
If i refund what happent with my account?
So if i refund him, i lost may account
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
Oh so this my fault?
Make the account got blocked?
 
It's common knowledge that google accounts are hard to access for any new IP logins. They're notorious. It's your account, you recover it.

Refund the user please, immediately.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
funny dude
if you wanna me refund him
waiting 21 days
 
You can go to the transaction directly on PayPal and issue a refund through the refund button. There's no need to wait 21 days for that option to come available, it's always there.

We won't be waiting 21 days, if that is the ultimate case we will ban you and once you've refunded the user, you can then appeal the ban.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
My paypal got review
I cant go bank for looking to same document bcs covid
If you wanna banned its okay
What ever you want
Im already said need 21 day
 
I really can't wait that long, can you please screenshot your PayPal that said under review? I've just searched and found out that PayPal reviewing transaction only took from 24-48 hours to complete, doesn't need you to go to the bank or anything.
 
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
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I see, in that case, you can also create a new PayPal account and use it to transfer my money back for now. After that, you can continue to use it or not it's on you.
 
With upgrades removed and TWC tag added, we can keep this open for now. If no refund is given within a week or so, we will issue a ban.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
He already take back the money
 
I just talk to PayPal yesterday about that transaction but at my side, I haven't received anything yet.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
-200+++
So what now?
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
so what happent on my paypal -200?
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
okay ill try to call paypal
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
Already call paypal
And they said, im lose of the dispute
 
@NoahN Did you get these funds back? Or did you dispute the payment with your card issuer / bank?

@Kimi11 Go to PayPal and find the transaction you had with this user and show the screenshot proof of the transaction dispute closed in his favour.
 
I did not receive any refunds. I've talked to a PayPal assistant and confirmed that the case already closed and was not in my favour. The negative balance will be removed soon as the PayPal assistance informed me. So definitely @Kimi11 misheard the information.
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
be gone once the founds back?
 
We'll wait a little bit for those funds to come back to @Kimi11. When you have that money back, do you plan on refunding him in full?
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
Lets wait
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/seller-refuse-to-refund-after-the-account-is-disabled-epic-seven.1846614/
still nothing
 
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