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Scammer sold me an account & recovered it

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Silver Rock

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Haimona1804
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This guy sold me an account and recovered the email , i bought it using goods & services so i hopefully get my money back. I just want him banned so people don't get scammed by him
Just to precise that the account he sold was alread sold and he recovered it back after he somewhat got scammed here's the forum thread : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-rave_apollo.1936634
He even proved himself that he can get access to the email and change it.

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I have the discord discussion too if the admins will ever need them
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I will add that the buyer has full access to the account, and the account data and mail data that I did not touch. I don't understand what he wants, I can't even restore the mail because they ask for the phone number of the buyer who is linked to the mail.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
At the expense of the last dispute, I bought an account from me and returned the money to myself, after which I had to contact technical support where I returned the account since nothing was linked to the accounts. I tried my best to resolve the issue, but the buyer from the previous dispute ignored it.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I also do not understand what this buyer wants because he has everything and mail data and account data. What you need from me I am ready to do everything and go to a meeting to resolve the issue.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I have no problems with nmk, but Silver Rock wants to steal my account and has also requested a refund. You do not do well, if you have decided to return the money, then return and the account with the mail.
 
This clown right now asking me to give him back the account after i recovered it .
I just don't want to post IPs but i have the logs of IP that prove he connected to the email & changed the game account details .
Look buddy you scammed another person of his money you want your account back you give that persons back money then we'll talk.
You better think my friend this account is worth a lot more of what you got from both of us . here's the other guys thread https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/got-scam-by-haimona1804.1963327/
 
I should change the title of this thread of GUY TRIED TO SCAM BUT F$$k UP NOW GONNA LOSE HIS MONEY AND ACCOUNT what a loser
Now listen you'll get banned anyway but right now i will give you back the account if you refund the other guy if it's an F&F transaction
And you know refund me too so we can do this faster.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
You tell me to give him the money back, but we don't have a conflict, and everything is fine.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
He received his account on the same day that he bought it
 
So you're telling me it was just a little misunderstanding between the two of you ?
So that means you getting access to my email and changing all the details with your IP just a coincidence or just a misunderstanding ?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I didn't change your email, when will you understand
 
Everyone calm down , Haimona is Russian and sometimes he doesnt know how the speak english very well .
He sounds like suspicious but he's not .
I bought an account from him , an good one , i pay via Paypal Friend close .
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I communicate through a translator, there may be errors. Sorry about that.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Hello everyone I'm gonna explain the situation right now .

2 days ago I bought an account to Haimona for 100 eu , I contact him on discord , everything was correct , I paid , he gave me the access on the MAIL and the W.T account . I was happy . BUT !!
The next time when i woke up to plya on the account , the password didnt work for the mail AND the WT account , i was like WTF I GOT SCAMMED ! So i tried to write to Haimona on discord BUT HE BLOCKED ME !
I was like wtf he just scammed me , i tried to send some message on EPIC , he gave me back an anwser 7 hours later and he said sorry bla bla . He have me back the access on the account and everything was fine .

I just would like to tell u guys that i changed the password of the WT account when i got the account and same for the mail .

Conclusion : I dont know if he's honnest or not .
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I found out how it happened, my friend and I pumped the account odinetot, played rarely, sometimes he, and sometimes I, I decided to sell this account, but I did not tell my friend this and yesterday a friend wanted to play and thought that the account was hacked and decided to restore it, since he knew the mail data, he decided to restore it through the mail recovery system. He partially succeeded. And we have the same Internet, so the IP addresses are the same. But I was only able to find out today. Since I personally did not make sense to restore the account because I knew that the buyer can return the money at any time. If the buyer does not want to deal with this incident, then I am ready to return the money for the account, and in return, the buyer will return the data from the account to me. Since he still has full access to the account and mail and account. Or he can keep the account for himself but then cancel the refund to paypal. Since the buyer has already requested a refund, but he also wants to keep the account for himself.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
Paypal screen
 
Haimona1804 said:
I found out how it happened, my friend and I pumped the account odinetot, played rarely, sometimes he, and sometimes I, I decided to sell this account, but I did not tell my friend this and yesterday a friend wanted to play and thought that the account was hacked and decided to restore it, since he knew the mail data, he decided to restore it through the mail recovery system. He partially succeeded. And we have the same Internet, so the IP addresses are the same. But I was only able to find out today. Since I personally did not make sense to restore the account because I knew that the buyer can return the money at any time. If the buyer does not want to deal with this incident, then I am ready to return the money for the account, and in return, the buyer will return the data from the account to me. Since he still has full access to the account and mail and account. Or he can keep the account for himself but then cancel the refund to paypal. Since the buyer has already requested a refund, but he also wants to keep the account for himself.
Click to expand...
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This story about your friend , same IP , same connection ... Hmm , suspecious , your " friend " live in your house , with you 24h/24h ?
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
nmK said:
This story about your friend , same IP , same connection ... Hmm , suspecious , your " friend " live in your house , with you 24h/24h ?
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So we Haimona we have your IP & a confession of you trying to scam nmK of his account .
You only gave him back his account after asked you to do it
From what i see all of this story is a failed attempt to scam that went very wrong
But right now you're still loitering around here trying to find a way to escape with the goodies
You attemped to scam 2 people of 240 $
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I'm waiting for the administration's decision. The accounts were purchased from me by customers, and the data was issued to customers. The money is paid for them.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
1) Did you buy an account? Yes
2) Did you get the data from account? Yes
3) Did I get money from you for account? Yes
4) Are you playing on my account right now? Yes
5) Have you decided to return the money for the account? Yes
6) Do you want to return my account? No
7) Do you want to take both the money and the account for yourself? Yes
So you're a scamming. So you need to be banned.

And people who leave their opinion, do not write. This is forbidden by the rules and you clog up the topic.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Hahaha this guy sould be in a hall of fame or something
1)Did you sell an account and recovered it Yes
2)Did i catch your attempt and logged your IP in it Yes
3)Did you scam NMK Yes
4)Did you gave him back the account after i threatened you Yes
6)Did you confess on discord to NMK that you tried to scam him Yes
5)Do you feel dumb now Yes
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
If the nmk does not like something, it can solve this problem by using a separate topic.
We can analyze the nmk problem.

1) nmk buy an account? Yes
2) nmk get the data of account? Yes
3) I get money from nmk for account? Yes
4) Are nmk playing on my account right now? Yes

Obviously, you are trying to turn the nmk against me by telling the nmk what to write against me. That you're tricking him into looking like a victim. Since in the beginning he wrote about me normally, and then started against me. For such actions, you and he can be banned from epic. I am for good and I want to resolve the issue peacefully, but you are only making it worse.
I am for good and I want to resolve this issue peacefully and fairly, but you only make the situation worse.
 
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Nmk is still a victim here it's just that i helped him so that he doesn't lose his money but even then he's still at risk after you'll get banned.
The only thing NmK did wrong is still trusted you after that failed attempt but i conviced him to play dumb with you so he'll get that confession out of you.
you're like a thief that stole a car but when he got caught you gave it back, then you comes back to the police saying look i gave back the car i'm a good guy.
You were going to scam 240$ from 2 members of this site .
You failed and thankfully i took care of the situation and stopped you from getting away with it.
Now we just wait for the admin to hit you with the good ol' banhammer.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I'm tired, it's impossible to talk to you. Let the administrator decide. I suggested a peaceful solution. you are against it. But know that everything has consequences.
I will not answer any more questions or conduct a dialogue with you, only with the administration.
If still ban me, then add me as a friend in discord, I will write you the last message. And I will write why you were wrong in everything.
 
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I asked him to refund me but he says he doesn't have the money.
I still have access to the account for now after i recovered it .
The account has additionnal 40$ worth of golden eagles in it that i personnally put in .
When i purchased the account i made sure to change passwords backup email & phone number but he still recovered and don't say how.
I opened a dispute with paypal after he said he won't refund me.
Right now i consider the account as still as Risk
 
Oh btw admin , Haimoma blocked me , change the password on the mail . But , i still have the access on the account . He tried again to scam me ...
 
I tried to prevent this by pressuring Haimona1804
Well now i think the guy will just run with his tails behind his legs
I did my hardest effort to atleast have nmK not lose his money but in vain
The guy will never refund any of us he was always planning to scam 2 people of 240 then get away
I tried to stop his plans but i failed i'm sorry for nmK
 
I have a proposition for the admins so that no one get shafted
If i get my money from paypal chargeback i'll give it to nmK he paid 100 euro and i paid 120 dollar i will send a screenshot of the dispute results when it ends 11 june so friday
I will keep the account even though it's still high risk i don't mind losing it
Because in the end it'll leave a bad after taste if i get away with a free account and nmK with minus 100 euro
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
Silver Rock will receive money on the 12th in a paypal dispute. Nmk I will also refund the money, provided that there are 120,000 golden eagles on the account, if he spent them, the account has no value and I will not return the money to him. Also nmk lied that I blocked it and tried to return the account. I tried to contact him but he does not answer and does not add to friends. So he lies for his own purposes.
 
nmK i can understand your frustration seeing this scammer still trying to make amends
@Haimona listen you will refund him or i'm going with the plan i mentionned, i know what you're doing with the 120 000 GE & playing mind games i'll explain to you something ,If you sell an account and recover it you will refund even if there's zero GEs .
The scammer need to get banned ASAP after all those proofs, for each day he's still here he'll find a new way to get away with minimum repercussion.
I gave a solution that will end in good terms .
 
Secondly you need to refund me what i paid 120$ + 40$ of golden eagle i have 7800 that i added i can send proof i added them + the time i spent grinding
It's inacceptable you'll get your account after i spent 2 weeks grinding and playing in it
If it's that way anyone can try to scam and if he fail he can just get away with no repercussion
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
This is your choice, I have no right to change anything. If nmk doesn't like something, let him create a separate dispute where we will decide with his account. If I get banned just like that, the war thunder nmk account will also be banned.If silver rock receives money on the 12th, and I will not receive the account that was sold to him. The warthunder account will be banned.I don't value my epic account, but I'm still trying to solve your problems. I said my terms for silver rock.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
Silver Rock said:
Secondly you need to refund me what i paid 120$ + 40$ of golden eagle i have 7800 that i added i can send proof i added them + the time i spent grinding
It's inacceptable you'll get your account after i spent 2 weeks grinding and playing in it
If it's that way anyone can try to scam and if he fail he can just get away with no repercussion
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After these words, you drove me into a dead end. It turns out with a good outcome, if you return the account, you can still block the account. Then I have no choice but to simply block both accounts and close this issue. This is how you substituted nmk.
 
i fully understand how nmK got fed up with you
4 days of status quo and still no end to this
I'll talk real right now i don't care about money
I just want you to pay for your crime (Yes this is a crime)
As a seller on this site i do not tolerate scammers and i'll do my utmost to destroy them even if it's not in my best interest
 
Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-sold-me-an-account-recovered-it.1964315/page-3
I also want you to pay for your scammer.
 
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