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Scammer: MD Username: Abestsupport AIM: AbestSupport eBay: tallest123

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Just got scammed by this person,
After about 10 hours of trying to deal with him, he sounded legit. After sending payment via MoneyGram, he then supposedly was to go him and give me the info.

Next I talked to him, he said "one second, getting the account and removing the authenticator" and then didn't respond to me for about 10 hours. Upon his arrival back to his computer he did not say anything and blocked me (tested it with a different AIM username)


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First he says he sent me the info and activated the account. Then later he tells me he decided to do more research on bank transfers so I guess he just straight lied about sending me the account info? Not sure what this dude is trying to do here. I'm in the process of reversing the wells fargo transfer. Beware of this guy. I deleted my personal information from the convo.


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Live and learn from mistakes, refunded Richard (907ak).

Also mods: please remove all personal information that has been posted In the chat logs.
 
I have not been refunded, and I am demanding compensation. Not a good guy, will not respond to any contact I am trying to make with him.
 
when i talked to him he seemed really shady
 
The only conversation I ever had with lolerstepftw is as follows:

Friday, January 08, 2010
Lolerstepftw (3:46:15 PM): hey
abestsupport (4:34:28 PM): yo
Lolerstepftw (4:34:40 PM): would u be interested in trading ta all or no
abestsupport (4:35:48 PM): no
Lolerstepftw (4:35:50 PM): kk
Lolerstepftw (4:35:54 PM): gl

How that makes me shady is something I will never be able to understand, regardless... If you do not have anything to do with the situation then you should not post here.

I also will not be responding to to thread until everyones personal information is removed. When it has been removed we can continue with the resolution of this accusation.

Thanks
 
It's funny because Abestsupport will answer everyone else, except mine. He scammed $750.00 of mine and has yet to say anything on his behalf regarding it.

edit: I used moneygram and expect the full refund via moneygram plus what they charged me (an extra $49.00) if the account will not be delivered to me.
 
Still trying to contact him, apparently he's talking to the other person he scammed and completely ignoring me.

And as of right now (1:00PM EST) he is logged on to the MD forums, where as 30 minutes ago he was not.

Also, apparently Abestsupport is claiming that he gave me the priest when he in fact did not (Thanks for the info 907ak).

AAebedi14 8:30 am
nice
AAebedi14 8:56 am
did you refund that other kids cash?
abestsupport 9:01 am
No i never [censored] scammed him, I really sold him the priest and scammed you, i don't know what he's trippin on but I can't be arsed to deal with it today.
AAebedi14 9:01 am
ahh
abestsupport 9:01 am
and yes he's going to [censored] that I'm ignoring him, he's telling the truth

He's completely denying the fact that he scammed me now.

Edit: He finally responded to me.

abestsupport 1:10 pm
(1:10:10 PM): Hi, I provided you with the account information over the phone and will do what I need to do to prove that, but as of right now I have no willingness to help you at this point, do what you think you need to do, but trying to fight me over something I didn't do is not going to be easy and will cost you a lot of money.


This, in fact, is a complete lie, he is completely denying the fact that he scammed me, and now taking it to the next level of "I gave him the account".
 
I never claimed that I scammed you okih. If you are asking me if I scammed Richard (907AK) the answer is yes. And he has been fully compensated and has accepted my apology.

As for Okih, I never scammed you and would like to see screenshots of all the chat logs, please make sure you remove any and all personal information that was discussed between us.

P.S I am celebrating my birthday today and will check back tomorrow to see if my input is needed further.

Thanks
 
Logs are too long to paste, as you and I talked for 2 nights and a morning.
You can tell from the beginning that he just happens to say the right thing at the right time, even though most of it is fake. He seems like an experienced scammer, and has already scammed 2 people so far for the same account.

I will post the important stuff that needs to be seen, as the entire log is extremely long.

hiko36 (9:23:35 PM): sure why not :-P
hiko36 (9:23:56 PM): but i also realize you have an authenticator on it meaning even if I was to buy it now
hiko36 (9:24:01 PM): i would have to wait for the auth to get here, right?
abestsupport (9:24:13 PM): nah
abestsupport (9:24:18 PM): basically how I plan to work it
abestsupport (9:24:22 PM): is once you pay for it
abestsupport (9:24:29 PM): I will pick up the money which is about 10 min away
abestsupport (9:24:39 PM): I will call you with the account name and pass so you can at least login
abestsupport (9:24:58 PM): then when I get home, which should take about 10-15 min, I will give you the rest of the info along with my ID
abestsupport (9:25:14 PM): then I will ship the boxes/cds/cd keys along with my authenticator
abestsupport (9:25:35 PM): but I can actually remove the authenticator until you get it
hiko36 (9:25:40 PM): oh, can you?
abestsupport (9:25:40 PM): it can be added and taken off very easily
abestsupport (9:25:45 PM): yeah
abestsupport (9:25:52 PM): just need the serial on the back of it
hiko36 (9:26:00 PM): right
hiko36 (9:26:02 PM): that works then
abestsupport (9:26:07 PM): but you will get it
abestsupport (9:26:23 PM): I want to make sure everything that possibly can be done to make sure it's YOUR account IS done.
hiko36 (9:26:44 PM): right
abestsupport (9:26:44 PM): Theres nothing worse than spending $750 and then having an account taken back from you after a few months of YOUR hard work.
hiko36 (9:26:53 PM): yep
abestsupport (9:27:09 PM): So whatver I need to provide you with, I will.
hiko36 (9:27:20 PM): i agree and appreciate your professionalism, it's not often you find a seller like yourself.
abestsupport (9:27:32 PM): I will even attempt to go as far as sending in my ID and requesting the last name to be changed to your due to me getting married
abestsupport (9:27:42 PM): yours*
hiko36 (9:27:49 PM): that would be very helpful as well
hiko36 (9:27:58 PM): anyway, could you show me ingame?
abestsupport (9:28:28 PM): Like i said, I can possibly show you in-game, I would have to activate the account and go to a friends house to show you
hiko36 (9:29:04 PM): bleh
abestsupport (9:29:22 PM): Let me rephrase, I can show you in-game I'm just not sure if I will have access to a computer with WoW on it tonight, but if you are in no rush then I should be able to show you sometime tomorrow, and tonight POSSIBLY.

Log #1: First he says he will call me with the login/password, then get home and send me the ID / CD-Keys, and then ship out the game box and authenticator the next day. Which he didnt. He then also states that he could show me the priest in game, which he couldn't, and as you will tell from later logs after he says he would go to his friends house, he then said the he would be unable to.
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abestsupport (9:53:10 PM): not going to scam you, can't wait until you see i'm legit
hiko36 (9:53:17 PM): with that being said, what information do I need to know of yours for western union
abestsupport (9:53:54 PM): Name: - Phone: - City: - State: -
hiko36 (9:54:12 PM): you can go get it tonight
hiko36 (9:54:14 PM): and call me
hiko36 (9:54:15 PM): not text me
hiko36 (9:54:18 PM): call me with the account info
hiko36 (9:54:19 PM): right?
abestsupport (9:54:44 PM): Well, will call with the account name and pass
abestsupport (9:54:50 PM): I took the authenticator off
abestsupport (9:55:06 PM): so you can at least login and that will put you at ease, when i get home which won't take long
abestsupport (9:55:14 PM): I will give the rest of the info
abestsupport (9:55:17 PM): along with Id scan
hiko36 (9:55:21 PM): ok
abestsupport (9:55:21 PM): and ship your things out tomorrow
hiko36 (9:55:28 PM): overnight? :-P
abestsupport (9:55:32 PM): no
abestsupport (9:55:33 PM): lmao
hiko36 (9:55:35 PM): hehe
abestsupport (9:55:41 PM): Waste of money to overnight it
abestsupport (9:55:54 PM): but I will do UPS since i have a 20% discount with them and you can at least track it in real time.
abestsupport (9:56:23 PM): you will also get an email when i pick it up
abestsupport (9:56:30 PM): so expect a phone call like 2-3 min after the email
abestsupport (9:56:45 PM): If you don't have an email saying i picked it up, then I haven't picked it up yet

Log #2: He then again says that he will call me with the information after he gets the money, and when he returns home he will give me the rest of the info. Which again, he did not call me to give me the info, and did not return home to give me the CD-keys or ID scan.
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abestsupport (10:24:47 AM): Name: - Phone: - City: - State: - is my info, if you want to walk, then walk but if you don't, then don't do it... If you are going to walk though I'm going to work well you are doing it so I can get some things done while you are busy, you can call me when your done and I can go pick it up and come home to give you the info

Log #3: This time he states he will give me the info once he returns home.
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abestsupport (12:24:05 PM): sorry about that my phone died and i called you back but it died mid voicemail let me get you info
hiko36 (12:24:12 PM): okkkkk
abestsupport (12:24:25 PM): your prolly flippin out atm huh?
hiko36 (12:24:30 PM): yes................
abestsupport (12:24:34 PM): lmao
abestsupport (12:24:36 PM): ok one sec
hiko36 (12:24:37 PM): i [censored] called your phone 30 times
abestsupport (12:24:42 PM): my phone is dead
abestsupport (12:26:08 PM): gotta take the authenticator off again forgot about that
hiko36 (12:27:10 PM): ok
hiko36 (12:27:58 PM): got it?
hiko36 (12:32:57 PM): hello?
hiko36 (12:35:54 PM): aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
hiko36 (12:38:35 PM): sooooooooooooo.
hiko36 (12:46:00 PM): can you call me
hiko36 (12:46:04 PM): lets get this [censored] done with
hiko36 (12:50:32 PM): 20 minutes later.......................
hiko36 (1:02:36 PM): the time it takes for you to respond really gets annoying
hiko36 (1:39:53 PM): so.... hey....
hiko36 (2:17:39 PM): hi
hiko36 (3:22:51 PM): so
hiko36 (3:28:59 PM): 4 hours later......
hiko36 (3:58:55 PM): so about dat
hiko36 (4:18:54 PM): i can't believe you'd say "sec" then not return any IM for 5 hours
hiko36 (5:15:55 PM): www
hiko36 (6:28:19 PM): 6 hours and counting
hiko36 (6:28:25 PM): 7 hours and counting *
hiko36 (7:01:16 PM): goin on 8 hours
hiko36 (7:53:35 PM): back yet
hiko36 (8:46:17 PM): 9 hours and counting
hiko36 (9:29:08 PM): like.....what the [censored]
abestsupport signed off at 9:49:56 PM
abestsupport signed on at 10:14:27 PM
hiko36 (10:26:19 PM): so
hiko36 (10:26:26 PM): ABOUT THAT..............
hiko36 (10:27:51 PM): are you just ignoring me now
hiko36 (10:27:57 PM): do i really have to make a thread about you being a scammer
abestsupport signed off at 10:28:54 PM
hiko36 (11:26:07 PM): hope you got my message.

Log #4: After he picks up the money, he admits that he only got my voicemail, which in it he states, "trying to contact you, phone is about to die". I think to myself that this sounds rather fishy, but I'm still hopeful that when he gets home he will just give me the login/pw, as well as the rest of the information. After his return home, he states "let me take the authenticator off for you" even though I have not received the login / pw to the account, and after that completely ignores me for the rest of the day.
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hiko36 (3:01:49 PM): Are you going to refund me?
hiko36 (3:05:47 PM): ahh I see, ignore me until you put yourself on hidden again, smart move
hiko36 (3:19:49 PM): seeing as now I have your address, I can start getting things into motion
abestsupport (4:02:38 PM): Sup
hiko36 (4:02:49 PM): what do you mean sup
hiko36 (4:02:53 PM): you know very well what is up
abestsupport (4:02:59 PM): Just got home
abestsupport (4:03:52 PM): brb
hiko36 (4:04:19 PM): im requesting either the account or a refund
hiko36 (4:04:31 PM): judging by the fact that you lied the entire time about the account, that means I want a refund
hiko36 (4:10:04 PM): I prefer the same exact way I sent it to you, via moneygram, in the amount of $750.00 USD.
hiko36 (4:25:51 PM): I'm leaving for work now, and I will be expecting you to be on tonight around 10:15 EST, which is 7:15 your time.
hiko36 (4:26:26 PM): You have my number if you want to talk before then.
hiko36 (10:16:02 PM): Hello.
hiko36 (10:17:18 PM): So, Are you going to be refunding me?
hiko36 (10:22:42 PM): Scammer thread has had your "personal information" removed

Log #5: This is the entire logs from the next day. Hey pops on, says sup and brb, then doesn't answer to me. Tried to contact him later that night, still ignores me.
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hiko36 (12:10:53 AM): so are you ready to talk to me yet
hiko36 (12:20:28 AM): of course not, you just sign onto aim while standing up at your computer and instantly go afk.......
hiko36 (1:12:41 AM): still ignoring me?
hiko36 (1:24:59 AM): il take that as a yes
hiko36 (3:19:50 AM): like... what is going through your mind right now reading all of these messages and just ignoring them
hiko36 (12:41:21 PM): still ignoring me?
hiko36 (12:57:27 PM): why are you talking to Rfrye and not me
hiko36 (12:57:42 PM): you see, unfortunately I contacted the other person you scammed and it proves to me that you are ignoring me.
hiko36 (1:02:17 PM): I can't believe you'd sit there and lie about selling me the priest... what is going through your mind right now
hiko36 (1:02:32 PM): I have a friend who paid for a background check on you, after that has gone through I will be filing an IC3.
hiko36 (1:02:58 PM): aim logs, your address, email, phone number, parents names, should work out.
hiko36 (1:04:33 PM): you can't be "arsed" with it today...? You SCAMMED my money and are completely ignoring me.
hiko36 (1:09:01 PM): im glad you start typing and then stop
abestsupport (1:10:10 PM): Hi, I provided you with the account information over the phone and will do what I need to do to prove that, but as of right now I have no willingness to help you at this point, do what you think you need to do, but trying to fight me over something I didn't do is not going to be easy and will cost you a lot of money.
hiko36 (1:10:32 PM): I would like you to prove the fact that you "provided" me the account over the phone.
hiko36 (1:10:56 PM): I have our full aim logs which states you would give me the CD keys and ID when you got home, which you never did.
hiko36 (1:11:28 PM): In also the same logs, you completely ignore me for about a day and a half. You make no effort to contact me after I sent the money. You are a scammer. End of story.

Log #6: entire logged conversation from today. Half way through (when he finally responds) I contact the other person he scammed to make sure he was really there (check my last post). It turns out he has been ignoring me the entire time. He also now claims that he already gave me the information, and that he will "do what he needs to do prove that he gave me the priest". Even if he did give me the information over the phone (Which he did not, and is lying directly to my face) he still has yet to give me the CD keys / ID scan, and says he is "unwilling to help". I don't know what more can prove a scammer than this.

Once the background check on this user goes through, I will be calling the police and submitting an IC3 against him unless I am refunded in full. According to the previous person he scammed, the account was never in his (abestsupport's) possession, never showed him any screen shots or the priest in game.

Note: I also have Skype call logs of the entire day after he received the payment, which is approximately 15 calls with no answer over a 14 hour period. You would think if someone just paid you $750.00 for an account and you have not given them the info yet, you would answer the phone to actually give them the info. As an addition to the Skype Logs, I also made numerous calls on my cell phone which obviously I have no record of, but to still be ignored the entire day. I also left approximately 4 voicemails on his phone to which he did not respond to.
 
Also, Once Armory fixes itself (It seems broken right now), The account was logged into approximately 2 hours before I paid him, when he claimed the account was inactive. A heroic was done, and when he went to pick up the money, I called him asking why a heroic was done, which is when he said "Uhh.. I don't know... I haven't renewed the subscription or logged onto the account in about a month." I then asked for the username and password directly before he went to get the money and he said "Wait a minute, let me get it for you."

At this time, I was put on hold and I figured I was getting scammed. I called MoneyGram to see if the money was picked up yet, because I was ready to cancel it, but unfortunately he Already picked it up and then ignored me for the remainder of the day, minus the voicemail.
 
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Well, another bit of evidence to add to my accusation of this scammer: I made a character on Abestsupport's server and spoke with an officer in his guild and asked him if Shawtglass, the priest Abestsupport claims he owns and is the original account creator for, was named Andrew (Abestsupport's actual name.) And without surprise, of course he says it's not, and he is absolutely certain about it. Not once did he give me info or even log on to show me he actually had his character, and of course, it was because he never had the account info in the first place.
With all that's happened so far, (his scamming another person for the same character, his ignoring me, lying about giving me the info, this epic screenshot) I expect a FULL REFUND plus the money MoneyGram charged me (which is $49.00).
 
Another quick thing, not once did I give him or did he ask for my address, meaning not only did he not give me the account, but he also never intended to send the game boxes or Authenticator.

edit: Ic3 has been filed.
 
I agreed to refund his money with a personal check VIA US mail on friday, It's now wed and I have not heard from him. I need his address or PO box to send it to him.

So that's what I'm waiting for.
 
Have been really busy with school, however I have been on aim... Just texted Abestsupport with my address, the plan is that he will send me 400 right now, and the rest when he gets it.

Please do not lock thread until full refund is received.
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okih</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have been really busy with school, however I have been on aim... Just texted Abestsupport with my address, the plan is that he will send me 400 right now, and the rest when he gets it.

Please do not lock thread until full refund is received.</div></div>

How long are you allowing for this money to be set and this issue resolved? </div></div>


He says he will be getting it within 2 weeks. I assume if I don't receive it within about 14-20 days then it won't be resolved.
 
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