Scammed while exchanging money

[Dragos32]

Dispute Against

Flraidaccount

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DISPUTE Information
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Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/my-crypto-for-your-paypal-wise.2531957/
Approximate value of item/service: $853.26 USD
Date the problem began: 16.06.2023
Show proof of payment (screenshot):

Describe the problem: I was scammed out of 850$ by Flraidaccount while exchanging my Paypal balance for Ethereum. I contacted this unscrupulous person a couple of days ago. We talked on Discord and he told me to transfer the money first, because. he has many feedbacks. I believed him and transfered. After that, silence. The seller has stopped communicating. And I am very amazed and annoyed by the fact that the seller got in touch here, but the money was'nt returned.



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[Angel]

@Flraidaccount

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

That’s not my PayPal. Show the PayPal email. My PayPal has a profile picture. Nice try. You made a fake PayPal with a fake name and transferred it.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Doesn’t show the PayPal email, and it doesn’t have my PayPal picture.

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

I also don’t have that transaction in my PayPal history. Show the email you sent it to….. what a crap attempt of trying to get me banned for something that didn’t happen. Show the discord messages with my discord and show the email the money was sent to. That transaction isn’t even in my payment history.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/rem...occurred-brand-new-user.2543105/#post-9097932

He didn’t even respond to the thread I made about fake feedback.

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Show the PayPal email you sent it to. I showed my whole transaction history for the 17th which is the date that BS payment was sent on. So one of 2 things is going on. You’re a disgruntled scammer who got mad you couldn’t scam me or 2 someone on discord faked being me and you sent it to that. I have no messages with you on epicnpc and no messages with you on discord.

@Dragos32

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

@Flraidaccount

Not sure what’s going on or why you’re getting involved. Pretty sketchy after your side conversations with activated.


He didn’t show the PayPal email he sent the payment to… so either one of 2 things happened someone is trying to throw dirt on my name for 0 reason. Or 2 someone pretended to be me. I have no epicnpc or discord messages with this user at all. They showed a payment with no recipient email just a name and amount.

Prove it’s my PayPal email you sent that money to. I showed my whole PayPal history for the 17th the day that transfer supposedly happened.

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Also post the PayPal email you received as confirmation of the payment with the date.

Pretty easy to edit an invoice buddy. Show PayPal confirmation emails with my PayPal email.

My hustory doesn’t have it in the history. So you’re either BS or you got duped. I have no epicnpc messages from you and no discord messages from you. And if you say I do post the discord and a non nitro account so we know you didn’t make a name change.

Can’t believe I’m dealing with this fake BS.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

LOL the PM with the blue circle is literally blurry from alteration. Show the PayPal email receipts and confirmations and the email it was sent to and your actual PayPal history.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

On top of that every single rep on here I’ve gone first. Every single one and I just randomly told you to go first? Okay. Get out of here guy. What a waste of time and space.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Downloaded my PayPal statement for this week of June and have it ready to post this non existent photo shopped transaction never happened. Best part about PayPal is they log everything.

Download your last week of june 2023 PayPal statement highlight the transaction showing it to my email.

So again either 1 of 2 things here.


You’re a disgruntled scammer and are trying to ruin my rep or 2 someone else scammed you. I know for a fact you can’t show it in your statement with my name and email because I downloaded mine and it’s not there.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Here are pictures of a downloaded statement. “Your transaction” supposedly occurred this month on the 17th. The statement shows that transaction never occurred.

I’ve whited out the transaction ID’s for security but left the amounts charged and the transaction names to show this never happened.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

EpicNPC does NOT investigate disputes unless Trade Guardian was used. Instead we will conduct a review of the accused member's account. Please give the user a negative feedback instead.

If Trade Guardian was used, please go to the Trade Guardian > History or Active Transaction page and click the "Report" button. Someone will then join the chat and investigate your claim.


DISPUTE Information
######################
Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/my-crypto-for-your-paypal-wise.2531957/
Approximate value of item/service: $853.26 USD
Date the problem began: 16.06.2023
Show proof of payment (screenshot):

Describe the problem: I was scammed out of 850$ by Flraidaccount while exchanging my Paypal balance for Ethereum. I contacted this unscrupulous person a couple of days ago. We talked on Discord and he told me to transfer the money first, because. he has many feedbacks. I believed him and transfered. After that, silence. The seller has stopped communicating. And I am very amazed and annoyed by the fact that the seller got in touch here, but the money was'nt returned.



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I got in touch here? As in I messaged you on epicnpc? Show the message. I have no messages with you except you telling me you opened this. We have no previous messages ever and your message count verifies that… you have 4 messages under your profile that’s it. Lol. Everything you’re saying is BS lies.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Why didn’t you respond here? Oh I know… because it didn’t happen… but then you realized it won’t get investigated unless there was a trade guardian and this transaction is fake so there couldn’t be one so you just made a fake feedback again and then made this post just so the fake feedback would stick


This is all so obvious and you think you’re so smart

@Dragos32 im pretty sure which user you really are mr side conversations.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

@EpicNPC CM

This is ridiculous. Please look at all the evidence provided and ban this fake user.

 

[Angel]

Paypal name where @Dragos32 sends the payment is yours and that's something that the impersonator would be unable to know.

@Dragos32 can you post an entire conversation image please

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Paypal name where @Dragos32 sends the payment is yours and that's something that the impersonator would be unable to know.

@Dragos32 can you post an entire conversation image please

Lol that’s so false. If someone in the past wanted to mess with me they could create a fake PayPal with any name they wanted, I don’t have a PayPal balance account or seller profile so he wouldn’t be able to send to my name it would have to be email. Tons of people here have had my email bexause I’ve done deals with many people and there have been many scammers that tried to scam me that have my email too.

All they have to do is make a fake PayPal under my name send it to that account for a transaction and then send it back to themselves.

Which is very clearly what happened. It doesn’t have my email on it, and it doesn’t hve my PayPal profile picture and it’s not even in my transaction history.

Seems like you’re in on this @Angel because you disregarded me asking for him to post his actual statement showing exactly what email or number the money went to. The image doesn’t match, it doesn’t have my email in it and it’s not in any of my transaction history…..

How is that possibly to me if I’ve posted my statement and it’s not there? It seems like you clearly took a side and are in on this.

Now here comes a fake discord conversation that I won’t have either. If any of this were real my PayPal email would be in the picture, he’d post his whole PayPal transaction history and his PayPal confirmation emails of the payment like I asked. How come you’re not asking for those things when they’d clearly fully prove my theory? Lol it’s so clear you’re in on this you’re mad I didn’t sell my account to defiled because you would’ve made the money from your cut and I didn’t end up selling because I didn’t like how defiled responded.

Unless this person has epicnpc messages with me, proof of discord messages with me without a nitro account for a fake name, and shows their PayPal email receipts with my email and the transaction, and downloads a PayPal statement then uploads it here to show the PayPal went to me then it’s all BS and you should be ashamed of this deepfake BS.

 

[Angel]

Please stop spamming and wait on him to reply

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Paypal name where @Dragos32 sends the payment is yours and that's something that the impersonator would be unable to know.

@Dragos32 can you post an entire conversation image please

The amount of middleman tht have my PayPal email…. Like you… very easy for someone to give out a name and then make a fake PayPal and not show the PayPal email in the transaction lmfao. You literally just said “oh the names the same must be him”… that right there tells me your sketch. 1000’s of people have the same name so yes the email does matter and the statement proof does matter because it shows exactly who it went to. Otherwise it would be easy to fake all of this just using and knowing someone’s name.


Exactly what’s going on here.

Such BS. I’ve done over $40k in transactions here all with admins and verified vendors and this bs fake is saying I took $850. LOL. I don’t need $850.

What a waste this is.

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

Please stop spamming and wait on him to reply

I’m good on you angel. You know exactly what this is pretty shocked a middleman and admin would work behind the scenes like this. All good you’ll know deep inside whats good.

Peace out.

 

[Angel]

Yes MM is involved against you, Admins, and also the whole universe

Now be patient and wait on the victim to respond, or do you want to get banned before

 

[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

This is a joke. “Victim” you said he couldn’t have my name? Every single person that has done a deal with you has your name. Any disgruntled person mad enough… or who has no life which is probably the case in this case could easily jsut copy a name.

The fact you didn’t have him provide the confirmation emails, the email the transaction was sent to, and his statement with the transaction in the history with a matching transaction ID shows me you’re somehow tied to it. What unbiased moderator wouldn’t read that and say that is a great way of proving it let me make that person provide it. The fact that you automatically said a name was enough and you disregarded all of that tells me you’re bias and implicit in this.

Deny it and think you’re smart all you want. I do not care. Won’t be using this site full of BS anymore. What a joke an admin would act like this behind the scenes and then show a pretty face in the forum.

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

And of course he would say discord because he never messaged me ever. He’s gonna send screenshots from some BS nitro account. You and defiled think you’re slick.

There’s no epicnpc conversations because it can’t be faked here. There’s no transaction history with the transaction in it because it never occurred it’s a fake. My email or phone number are nowhere to be found just my name which many people I’ve dealt with know. And the people I’ve dealt with are literally all mods or verified members and I went first in every single transaction.

Now out of the blue a random fake brand new account is made and you A MODERATOR say a name is enough? Completely disregarding all of the proper proof I asked the scammer to provide then you “without bias” call him… the brand new user with no rep and no posts the victim when he hasn’t even provided solid proof of anything? Sounds like you have a bias there… unless this how you handle every case.


Seems pretty sketch especially because you and defiled were mad I didn’t sell my $8,000 account with you. And now a few days later this happened.


Yeah not implicit at all.

Gaslight all you want gaslight the forum with indifferent vague responses. Anyone with a brain would say I’m asking for solid proof and any real mod would agree that the fact this transaction is no where in my history, not in my statement and doesn’t have my email is more than enough to say this is BS. But a name is all you need?

Screams bias and implicit.

 

[Angel]

The fact that you are not banned yet is because i am asking to see more evidence. In case he fails a warning sign will be removed and the dispute closed.

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[Flraidaccount]

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

The fact that you are not banned yet is because i am asking to see more evidence. In case he fails a warning sign will be removed and the dispute closed.

*Staff-Only Content*

You should be a diplomat great at playing all the sides. That’s why I’m not banned yet? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Especially when I have all the feedback and all 7 are with mods or members with 100’s of feedback. Yet you’re already siding with him calling him the victim and saying the only reason I’m not banned. Even how you talk shows your bias and a side.


It’s interesting that 5 days after me canceling the deal with you and Defiled, and then 3 days ago you two chatting privately about me then I get all these random password resets on my PayPal email, then this fake new account pops up and MAGICALLY you respond to this thread within 7 minutes of it being created and you’re the moderator on it? And you immediately take a side? Youre not as slick as you think buddy. I took screenshots of you 2 having side conversations in the trade guardian after I canceled the deal. I simply didn’t like how defiled acted and I my instinct was right. You’re both bullies.


No wonder why you’re not an epicnpc employee and you’re just a middleman who was promoted.

You use your weight to bully and who knows how many others you deepfake when you don’t get to middleman their big deals.


The bias is palpable in your responses even though you’re trying so hard to be indifferent the bias shows in all of your responses.

Immediately calling the new account with no feedback or deals that was opened days ago and only 4 messages and he’s immediately the victim?

A little suspicious the timing of all of this.

But please…. I’ll post screenshots of our deal and me canceling it and I took a screenshot of you two typing in the trade guardian on the side.

Miraculously 5 days later a fake account is leaving me fake feedback with a fake PayPal invoice that doesn’t have my email, isn’t in my PayPal transactions, isn’t in my PayPal statement I downloaded and posted and your immediate bias


It literally screams your involvement in this. You just use your position to bully, thank god you’re a non employee mod and not someone in real power like a diplomat. Who knows the gross things you’d do.


You know deep inside you’re wrong and should drop your rouse.

I’ll be sitting waiting with all of my screenshors to keep blowing your fake spot.

 

[Flraidaccount]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-while-exchanging-money.2543525/

The fact that you are not banned yet is because i am asking to see more evidence. In case he fails a warning sign will be removed and the dispute closed.

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@EpicNPC CM @EpicNPC Mod

You guys should look into his account and check his side conversations.

I canceled a deal that he was supposed to middleman with a buyer that was rude to me and I didn’t want to work with him. This is about a week ago.

Now days later a fake account is made and their only interaction is with me, and they leave me a fake feedback. Which I get removed because it was bs, then they make a post here… knowing the feedback won’t be removed because they made a fake transaction and there was no trade guardian which they know because the transaction was fake which means you guys leave the feedback.

It’s literally planned slander. Then right after this fake loser makes an accusation WITHIN MINUTES, the middleman of the said deal is the one who responds to this and without any real concrete proof is calling me a scammer??? When I’m the one with out over $40,000 in deals all with global and local mods all where I went first and this guy angel takes his side immediately? Then just asks him to provide conversations??? Why??? Because discord nitro users can change their name. Of course there’s no messages on epicnpc BECAUSE THE TRANSACTION NEVER HAPPENED. So there’s no messages. Just fake messages these frauds are gonna make up on discord.

My email isn’t in the fake PayPal receipt, he didn’t post any of the receipts from PayPal, didn’t post a PayPal account statement, didn’t post the PayPal hustory.


If he clicks the transaction there’s a drop down of my email and personal information… if he was scammed for $850 he’d post all of this without me asking because he’d want to show he was right and I did that…. Yet this person posted none of that… why? Because it’s fake.

But yet angel was gungho to take this new accounts side and threatening early bans to me? The member with rep and $40,000 in verified deals with mods??

That’s not suspicious?

Epicnpc owners you should De-mod this guy.

Clearly has his own agenda or deals with the gray area members here and uses his weight to ban and gaslight people like me who do good deals and brings a lot of business to this site

You’re a joke and a disgrace of a mod

@Angel

 

[Angel]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Alright, even i do not like putting myself on this level, you asked for it, and I'll do this because of all people who read this

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Summary

1. May 10, 2023 I claimed TG transaction between @d3fil4d and this member

I great them both and i got a response from @d3fil4d but not from @Flraidaccount

The first couple of hours there was nothing on @Flraidaccount side even though he was online checking forums

A few hours later @d3fil4d informed me that the seller is busy at work so i decided to keep transaction active for the next day.

2. May 11, 2023

The next day was still no response even though he was active on the forum. @d3fil4d asked me to cancel transaction

I decided to keep it a bit more active but I added a trade with caution tag because there was a chance that we have a false sale. Having a buyer for 8000$ trade and just vanish without a word is extremely suspicious everyone could agree on this.
The same day seller finally answered asking why he got trade with caution tag, and explained that was busy at work. I accepted his word and removed the warning from his profile so we can continue with the trade.

@Flraidaccount paid the fee because buyer was unable to, and i asked to deliver the account so i can secure it. He poofed again, but i didn't find it suspicious because he already paid the fee and he looks to me as a serious seller.


3. May 12, 2023

Seller finally respond but not to me, he messaged the buyer on Discord

So are you calling me unprofessional?

I canceled the trade and there was no further action taken from my side. I had full right to ask you to prove that you own the account you are selling. TWC tag was also never returned.


A few days ago i got a message from the same buyer

This is my whole answer but he got a notification about chat even though he could not read it about what so he tried to argue with @d3fil4d but he ignored you completely. Only who was unprofessional and rude here was YOU but you are too busy with your own ego to be able to see that without someone's help.

Today i saw a dispute but i already forget that he is this person, there are too many to remember the name after i see them once.

I am Moderator here and i am handling disputes no matter if they are against you or someone else, someone who claims that was scammed posted an image with payment send in your name. I notified you and asked him for extra info. What is for you unprofessional in this case? If i was sure that you are a scammer i would not ask anything, you would be banned by now.


@EpicNPC @EpicNPC CM please check my TG conversation with this person and confirm if i was rude in any way or a single word.

I am going to close this so this persona can not slander and insult anymore. He is obviously ignoring my warnings. Admin will reopen this tomorrow after review. Is very interesting how he is free today to argue for hours and weeks ago was too busy responding for entire 3 days.

@Dragos32 you can send me an image on private and i will repost them here

Evidence that payment is sent to @Flraidaccount email

https://imgur.com/a/PM5fdZG

 

[Angel]

Banned for scamming

Flraidaccount

[email protected]
carsandcigars#7324