Scammed by EpicMember Premium user imposters

[Guryamp]

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Information
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Dispute Date: Dec 12, 2017
Method of Contact Used: Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing:

ionize[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6)]#2115[/COLOR]​

EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Legionfarm & Dev1l
Your Instant Messenger ID:

Guryamp[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.6)]#2440[/COLOR]​

Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? I posted a WTB thread about a wow account. This person contacted me and said he had an account for me. We agreed on 40euros+tax in the form of gamecards. After I gave him the codes he went offline.
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1235179-WTB-ICECROWN-horde-druid-resto-pvp

Was a middleman used?
no
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Other details / notes: He said he is a member of the Legionfarm website. Then he gave me his personal account on epicnpc, both accounts were verified via pms.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
https://imgur.com/a/VpJVd

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes, I looked up the user's past trades and feedback.
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? I have made one other transaction successfully.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Can you post their actual discord ID with the #

 

[Guryamp]

Sure, it's Izaac#2115

 

[doomedtofail]

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unfortunately those pm's do not prove anything.

1) legion farms discord is legionfarm#5625
2) did dev1l pm you the discord information at all? He only deals in dota and csgo by every post hes ever made.

what an imposter does is contacts you. has you send him a code to verify via pm. he then contacts the person he is pretending to be with same code and makes you believe its him. This is why we tell people not to use the pm system to verify identity. its a very common scam.

 

[Legionfarm]

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Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/

Our Discord is legionfarm#5625
We DO NOT sell any accounts and has no idea who Dev1l is and never contacted via Discord with Izaac#2115 or Guryamp#2440.
The guy may have told anything about what website he is from.
It's a total mistake.

 

[Guryamp]

Well, both times I asked him to send me pms from the two different accounts, he did with these epicnpc accounts, I know it's a mistake to trust the pm system but the timing was just too convincing. Can we find out who messaged Legiofarm & Dev1l maybe?

Guess there's nothing much that can be done. I'll stay away from trading going forward, please remove my WTB thread if possible also.

Thanks.

 

[Legionfarm]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/

So, lets clear. I want to know, if there is someone in our team. When you asked him, to PM you here on forum from our Legionfarm account you got answer, that you showed on your screenshot? Am I correct?

 

[Guryamp]

That is correct, both times I asked him to send me pms here, it happened with a minute.

 

[Dev1l]

Banned - Banned on getdota2: https://getdota2.ru/threads/moshennik-380660428756.56695/

U added in skype me coz u want to buy telephone numbers ( https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1236475-WTS-Phone-numbers-(Only-2-49-)?p=5775777#post5775777 ), and u asked to write you on forum. Nice try. I never played in wow. Close thread

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hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024266561,hi

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024269807,Still selling phone numbers?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024272795,yes

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024282937,how much do u need?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024310026,10 numbers

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024322136,but can you pm me on epicnpc?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024324893,no problems

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024327080,yes

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024330708,link?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024338917,"<a href=""https://www.epicnpc.com/members/706786-Guryamp"">https://www.epicnpc.com/members/706786-Guryamp</a>"

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024347245,Tell me 123 123

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024349948,or anything

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024350589,xD

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hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024493107,for sale?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024497056,yes

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024512654,Alright prepare them i will be home in 30 mins

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024517748,i will pay via paypal

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024522732,friend / family

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024523779,okay?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024537780,can we use other metod?

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024550186,in my country I can&apos

t use paypal and they closed my account

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hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024568515,u can buy items dota/sc go for paypal and offer me on steam

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,dev1l_accounts,Dev1l Accounts shop,"--?T::Z",1513024572874,or skrill

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024813689,skrill

hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC """,hydrogen336,"Emma \| "" Verify On EpicNPC ""","--?T::Z",1513024815408,fine

 

[Guryamp]

[MENTION=570316]Legionfarm[/MENTION] , who asked you to PM me?

 

[Legionfarm]

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Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/

I don't understand what is going on. Guryamp you actually came to our website, asked to PM you to verify this is our thread on Epic and then just left. Didn't bought any service. I have your chat in our intercom with our manager.
And waht the hell is this: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1235179-WTB-ICECROWN-horde-druid-resto-pvp
And who is that guy Dev1l ))))
What is you up to?

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You've just said you personally... via Discord...
But i see a conversation in intercom on our website where you asking our manager to PM you

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@Legionfarm , who asked you to PM me?

[MENTION=706786]Guryamp[/MENTION] Please, send a screenshot of your conversation, with the guy, who tried to sell you an account and said, that he is from Legionfarm.

 

[Guryamp]

@Legionfarm I already did that, on the top there is a link.

I am just wondering how can we get this hydrogen336 person to stop doing this.

Can see he's been doing this for a while.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1228678-scammed-by-impostor-on-skype-for-46

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/711...23-Champions-173-Skins-Rare-amp-Championships

 

[Dev1l]

Banned - Banned on getdota2: https://getdota2.ru/threads/moshennik-380660428756.56695/

[removed]

 

[Guryamp]

@Dev1l you obviously don't understand what happened so take it easy, I was the victim here.

hydrogen336 impersonated you & Legiofarm and scammed me of $46.

 

[doomedtofail]

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[MENTION=425614]Dev1l[/MENTION] if you want to continue being rude, I will gladly give you a break from the forum since you cannot play nicely in the sandbox.
[MENTION=706786]Guryamp[/MENTION] the best way to verify identity is making a user post in your thread with the skype or discord they are speaking to you on. that way when in this case legion farm posts on your thread, they see your user name too, then you post in thread your contact information too to prove they are talking to you.

 

[Legionfarm]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/legionfarm-scammers.1450064/

I think i get it. That guy, that came to our website was from Cairo. You are from Canada, if i'm not mistaken. So it's not you, i think. He pretended to be our buyer and wanted to verify our feedbacks. He asked our sales manager to send him PM here on Epic and told him your nickname. In the same time he was talking to you. When you got message from us, you believed him. I don't know how to help you. Next time if someone tells you he is from some company, or website better go directly there. All sites has chat support, or list of service and so on. So you can check it by yourself.