Scammed by CUBOT - Youtube account seller

[Msafti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

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Purchase Date: 7. June 2018
Date the problem begain: 7. June 2018
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): DISCORD
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/125...-19-261-Subscribers-and-13-000-00-Views-Total!
Approximate value of property: $260 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? If so, what is the TG ID# NO

What is the dispute about? I BOUGHT A YOUYUBE CHANNEL FROM CUBOT WHO SEEMED LIKE A RELIABLE SELLER, WITH HIS FEEDBACK AND THREADS. BUT WHEN I TRANSFERED THE MONEY THROUGH PAYPAL, HE TOLD ME IT WOULD TAKE 30 MIN. TO TRANSFER THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL TO MY ACCOUNT. HE DELETED HIS DISCORD MESSAGES (AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO) AND STOPPED RESPONDING! HE IS ONLINE BUT NOT RESPONDING!

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[Cubot]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

Hello,

I dont know how or why i am personally involved into this situation here, but in my defend i can tell that i only aceppted that dude, after what he started writting messages since yesterday. None of those messages actually was responded i dont know if this should be a trick to get our bussines involved into ban or something but this person obviously have some mental issues. However i wont agree on anything he just claimed here, we get much requests, and for sure we wouldn't sell channel for a tip of 260$ not reasonable at all price. Currently at the work as i have job aside of this and recieved notification on email about this so i had to check, discord is always on on mobile so its obvious why i am always on due to aceppting requests, however this is completly lie! I dont know what games is he playing or what is he trying to do with all this, but honestly this is not my bussines, and i wouldn't deal that way for sure with customers! We respond when we get atleast 15 requests for buying

This doesn't make sense! EPICNPC Handle situation as how you think is best, but this is just abnormal.



+ i'd like to add that is not our email, one of epicnpc know the email we use for paypal! as we worked with one user that wanted through middleman!

 

[EpicNPC]

This was not a Trade Guardian transaction, thread has been edited.

[email protected] is a known scammer and was already banned here 7 months ago.

I do not know who that person on Discord is as your images do not show the profile page so I can't see the username.

In the future, I recommend using Trade Guardian, it provides item and payment guarantee.
https://www.epicnpc.com/tradeguardian.php

 

[Msafti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

[email protected] is the son of a ***** that is running CUBOT...

YOU SAY YOU ARE CURRENTLY AT WORK, AND THE ONLY REASON YOU RESPONDED WAS BECUASE YOU GOT A NOTIFICATION.. WELL I CAN SEE YOU'RE ONLINE ON DISCORD AND YOU'RE PLAYING FORTNITE.. SO TELL ME NOW EPICNPC WHO IS THE LIAR??

If i am the scammer the why the **** would i send CUBOT 260$ that is not how scamming works!. This son of a ***** told me to transfer 260$ for the youtube channel and he would only accept paypal transanction though "Friends and family" because thats how they do their business. And now i cant even get a refund!

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

This was not a Trade Guardian transaction, thread has been edited.

[email protected] is a known scammer and was already banned here 7 months ago.

I do not know who that person on Discord is as your images do not show the profile page so I can't see the username.

In the future, I recommend using Trade Guardian, it provides item and payment guarantee.
https://www.epicnpc.com/tradeguardian.php

However in defend i can only say we didn't request any payment of him, we didn't speak with him back, we didn't ask him for 260$ as that doesn't make sense, there is no chance we would sell channel for 260$ which is worth for us over 400$ + we are currently looking for offers! So this all doesn't make sense what he written to us! This is just showing how corrupted and how tricky people can be to ruin something to someone! It is obviously his email or copyed from somewhere just to convince here ...As i said we do not use that email, and that email doesn't belong to our bussines at all!

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[email protected] is the son of a ***** that is running CUBOT...

YOU SAY YOU ARE CURRENTLY AT WORK, AND THE ONLY REASON YOU RESPONDED WAS BECUASE YOU GOT A NOTIFICATION.. WELL I CAN SEE YOU'RE ONLINE ON DISCORD AND YOU'RE PLAYING FORTNITE.. SO TELL ME NOW EPICNPC WHO IS THE LIAR??

If i am the scammer the why the **** would i send CUBOT 260$ that is not how scamming works!. This son of a ***** told me to transfer 260$ for the youtube channel and he would only accept paypal transanction though "Friends and family" because thats how they do their business. And now i cant even get a refund!

Fortnite is always online on PC! anything else?

 

[doomedtofail]

https://www.epicnpc.com/members/711644-JustSmileTwice That email belongs to him

 

[Cubot]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

[email protected] is the son of a ***** that is running CUBOT...

YOU SAY YOU ARE CURRENTLY AT WORK, AND THE ONLY REASON YOU RESPONDED WAS BECUASE YOU GOT A NOTIFICATION.. WELL I CAN SEE YOU'RE ONLINE ON DISCORD AND YOU'RE PLAYING FORTNITE.. SO TELL ME NOW EPICNPC WHO IS THE LIAR??

If i am the scammer the why the **** would i send CUBOT 260$ that is not how scamming works!. This son of a ***** told me to transfer 260$ for the youtube channel and he would only accept paypal transanction though "Friends and family" because thats how they do their business. And now i cant even get a refund!

We do not use paypal attached to your request! Stop putting the blame on us! I dont know who you did actual deal i dont know who scammed on you, but you wont make blames on us! We use everywhere same email, discord & skype & paypal! So please stop lying here! our email is for all services [email protected] ...

 

[Msafti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I wish i had taken screenshots of when our conversation on discord before you deleted your messages.. Why did you have to scam me for 260$ ? if you wanted 400$ i would have paid that you ************!
I am new here and i dont know how much these youtube channels are worth.. so you just had to scam me?

I see CUBOT has been a member since Jan 2018, if anyone else was scammed here by this ***** please post it here on this thread.

 

[Cubot]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

I wish you actually did so i can see that conversation my self, as all i see is you talk to your self my friend, and that is completly true from my side! This is our bussines and we dont risk any trades, however i didn't even have time to speak back to you while you were messaging to my discord, however if thats all i should continue work on my job, as its primary place of where i earn money, thanks!

Would be glad to see if someone had issues dealing with our services btw aswell, all those hm i'd say 15 deals we had zero issues or 16

Epicnpc i am free to continue working on my job?

 

[Msafti]

you say that the paypal email belongs to this guy: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/711644-JustSmileTwice

I see he was banned just at the end of December 2017."JustSmileTwice" was banned for having multiple accounts.. And Cubot opened his account at the beginning of January 2018.. surely this cannot be a coincidence.

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

you say that the paypal email belongs to this guy: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/711644-JustSmileTwice

I see he was banned just at the end of December 2017."JustSmileTwice" was banned for having multiple accounts.. And Cubot opened his account at the beginning of January 2018.. surely this cannot be a coincidence.

Okej this is becomming so retarded situation, what coincidence, some started a profile on january of 2018 sorry i didn't know thats a crime...

 

[Msafti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

You say im talking to my self on Discord? Well you ***** it takes 5 minutes to delete all of your messages from Discord! Thats why you told me to wait 30 minutes so that you would have time to delete your ****! **** YOU. You say i spent yesterday writing to my self, why the **** would i do that? I have written to several other EpicNPC members about purchasing a youtube channel.

As you see these messages were sent on the same time! WHY? because thats the time i was home and looking for channels to buy.. EPICNPC i dont give a **** about my money anymore, i just want you to ban this *****! He stole from me and deleted his messages on Discord and now he acts as if he is a holy *****

 

[Cubot]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

Listen this is 2018 year and for transactions you feel insecure there is always option to take middleman! You know middleman who is high reputated as nerd did with us one of our customers from the past, however we do not take any risks, but if our customers do request middleman we agree on that and we let them pay fee + all costs of transaction, however since you obviously trying to do make whatever of us, i'll just end my story here, as i really really dont have no longer time to discuss this story that is really ridicilous. We do have a channel on sale, we do own discord but we did not reply to you! I dont know if you feel cool replying to your self, sending money to your self or to random people or what so ever, but you wont involve us into your problems! You should know that by using internet! and if you're not sure of doing the right thing then rather dont even do it!! As i really dont have attention here to stay whole day and discuss something what actually shouldn't be my case to discuss, time is money and when it comes i am there! So man i wish you luck with trying whatever you do, fix your health issues and stop accuse random people for your mistakes!

 

[Msafti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Listen here you CUBOT *****, do you think i created a EPicNPC account and Discord account both yesterday just to waste my time and report people? You little ****er its obvious i only created it to buy a channel!
And CUBOT ***** the only reason you're respoing with long messages to this thread is because you know you ****ed up, and now you're trying to get away with it by saying i have health issues and what not.

As i said earlier i am so mad that i don't even give a **** about the money, i just want justice for what you have done!

EpicNPC you can always check my private message, where i have written to alot of sellers to find the right youtube channel.

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

I am out cheers! Feel whatever you want but those accusations doesn't bother me! I agreed to this bussines, so i might meet lots of unstable people who are just trying to do bad things, goodbye Cubot is out.. I wont listen this attacks over my name anymore! Bye

 

[Msafti]

Yea and **** you too

 

[doomedtofail]

[MENTION=718723]Cubot[/MENTION] you do realise that account i linked was banned right before the one you are using now and share a country and internet service provider as you? Its almost impossible to say that user is pretending to be you.

 

[Msafti]

[MENTION=718723]Cubot[/MENTION] Use VPN next time you stupid ****! [MENTION=183265]doomedtofail[/MENTION] Thanks for checking up on it! Appreciated!

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

@Cubot you do realise that account i linked was banned right before the one you are using now and share a country and internet service provider as you? Its almost impossible to say that user is pretending to be you.

I do realize it now, but it is not me...

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

@Cubot you do realise that account i linked was banned right before the one you are using now and share a country and internet service provider as you? Its almost impossible to say that user is pretending to be you.

But from what i see nothing is attached to my account, so i dont really know the country of that account, but i can only say in my defend that is not me, however! I will not risk my account from what i write for doing criminal activities, suspicious is suspicious, if youre going to ban me regardless me to that, then ok i deserve to be banned, but i can only say it would be unfair

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

@Cubot you do realise that account i linked was banned right before the one you are using now and share a country and internet service provider as you? Its almost impossible to say that user is pretending to be you.

Just want to add, provider in our country is primary optima, which is connected all to HT so all users use almost the same connection, as its most reliable here in our country, however! You do realize that it might be true? or i'll get even more accusations? I HAVE DONE already lots of transactions you think i would **** with this person over some 260$? when i could get much more for my account, yeah go ahead listen everything thats been said from newly created account gg EPIC!

 

[Msafti]

[MENTION=718723]Cubot[/MENTION] Just stop already. You should have never ****ed me over!
[MENTION=183265]doomedtofail[/MENTION] - If you want to be sure its him or not. Check his IP-address see the location on Cubots IP and the other one.. If they are both at same place then you know that he is a scammer

 

[Cubot]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1316774-Scammed-by-CUBOT-Youtube-account-seller/page2

@Cubot Just stop already. You should have never ****ed me over!
@doomedtofail - If you want to be sure its him or not. Check his IP-address see the location on Cubots IP and the other one.. If they are both at same place then you know that he is a scammer

If he noticed that me and that person are same i think i wouldn't be here even before as i think thats how system works, so please Msafti screw you.... hope at the end they will release that i dont have to do anything with your issue!

No longer responding here.

 

[Msafti]

[MENTION=718723]Cubot[/MENTION] Ip addresses can show your location but only in the radius of 50KM so never the precise location stupid ****.. so [MENTION=183265]doomedtofail[/MENTION] .. if the 2 radius are insides 50km of eachother.. then ban this ************. [MENTION=718723]Cubot[/MENTION] If its only 260$ then just return it! dont ruin the status you have worked so hard for here on EpicNPC.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

We have confirmed cubot owns that paypal account and is the previous user who was banned.


banned


CUBOT
[email protected]
cubot#6991
[email protected]

 

[Msafti]

[MENTION=452232]EpicNPC CM[/MENTION] THANK YOU! I haven't got my money back, but at least this is satisfaction enough! Thank you again

 

[ITALY]

@EpicNPC CM THANK YOU! I haven't got my money back, but at least this is satisfaction enough! Thank you again

Sorry for posting in the scam report, i know i should have not done so by the rules, all i want to say is :

I can help you win the Dispute via paypal.
PM Me, i'll gladly help you

TIP: CALL THEM AND TELL THEM YOU WERE TRICKED INTO SENDING THE PAYMENT AS Friends and Family BY THE SCAMMER !
If you want more help please PM ME, i lost a lot of money lately due to a chargeback and i really want to help you.
I dont ask for money, i will help you for free.