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Scammed by Alice241421

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Purchase Date: June 1
Date the problem begain: June 1
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: https://www.epicnpc.com/members/alice241421.1328958/ DISCORD: AIice
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Your Instant Messenger ID: Chengu0#1010

Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sold.1960759/#post-7668125
Approximate value of property: $380USD
Was Trade Guardian used? no

What is the dispute about? Purchased a league of legends account and within a day he changed password, email, everything related to the account log in and unfriended/blocked me on discord.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? yes, no proof because he blocked me on discord and all chat history is gone
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? gave me the email that he created the account on, but the email doesn't show anything
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? less than a day
 

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
First and foremost, I don't even know you, and I'm not even home; I had a league account for sale due to financial issues, and my discord isn't even that; and I wasn't the original owner of the account AS it can also be seen in my previous post that was also edited by my friend (I will continue to mention about him further) . However, I am not blaming you; I believe I know who may have caused you to have your league account lost (I wasn't the only one playing on it, it was a joint account) and blocked on that one; I recognise it, and I will contact the person. However, I have nothing to do with this, and I don't even have you on my main, but I can add you to my main if you send me your discord, and we can make a gc with that person and sort it out if he accepts me.

There is also a mistake that I will admit is my fault: I shared both of my accounts with my friend (HE also blocked me on Discord), and he agreed to assist me in finding buyers because, as you can see, that was my first actual post on this platform; did I check it after? Yes, but not in detail; did I know he was going to defraud you? No, I trusted him; is it my fault as a result? Yes, but I did not proceed with any payments, and that is not my discord; that person has also blocked me, and I am attempting to contact him.

If he does not respond, I will give you a refund from my own funds, but it will take some time, so please be patient, because I know this isn't fair to you and I am sorry that this happened. However, I did not scam you, and it was not me, because my real discord does not have a fake I lol, but I recognise him because of his tag, and I was just not online yesterday because I was away for work.

You should have dm'd me on the EPICNPC platform messages because I was checking it more than discord because I don't use discord as much and I would know if he would try to twist things or scam you. I also don't have access to the email ( I just checked, tried to log in, nothing was working), but I will be contacting Riot Games about the account because neither me nor him are the original owners. It was a purchased account that we obtained in late 2019 when I began playing, and he agreed to assist me, which is why it is a joint account, but I was the primary person who spent money on it and played on it.

Please understand that it is partially my fault, but I did not scam you in person, nor did I try to twist things to make some sort of excuse for this; I am just as concerned about the account because I've spent over £2k+ on it. It's very valuable to me, and I'm surprised he only got $380 for it. However, if he does not respond, I will need time, as previously stated.

Thank you for your patience, and please accept my apologies for this situation, I shouldn't have agreed to have a joint partnership or help for the main post.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
@Alice241421 Are you saying your "friend" spoke to him on Discord, and asked him to pay to YOUR PayPal account? And you're saying he only got $380 for it meaning you didn't receive said payment, but your friend did? So your friend has access to your PayPal as well? Explain this.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
Yes he did, who else would because he was the joint person I was working with. No, he does not have access to my paypal account, if he did I would straight up know because I have 2FAC on it with my phone and with my email. I am logging on my PC and getting all the chat logs I've had with him about it.
 
The payment was sent to your PayPal account. Kindly log into your PayPal, and refund him immediately. Post a screenshot here with the refund complete.

Do not send him money, go to the transaction (you can see which transaction it was from the OPs picture) and click the refund button in there.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
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Edit: Can he provide when the transaction was made because he deleted his account and I'm trying to contact Riot Games now, I can try to recover the account, It should take about a day.

No, the payment was not made through "MY" Paypal, as I previously stated. Because it was not made directly by me, there is nothing for me to refund, but as I previously stated, if this does not get resolved, I can pay him out of my own money to compensate for his loss. I don't have access to any of this right now because 1) it wasn't me who made the payment, 2) it wasn't on my paypal account, and 3) it didn't happen on my discord, which, as I previously stated, SHOULD have happened on EpicNpc. I'm at a loss for what to do; I've stated everything that was going on; if you want to ban me, that's fine; if not, I'll see to it that his loss is refunded in any case.

Edit2: Im sorry but paypal amenity does sound suspicious, and that name he provided you isn't his actual name, so he pretty much faked the information before the transaction happened.

Edit3: I got a hold of him, I am talking to him right now
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
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Okay can you give me your paypal I will pay you the amount you got scammed @DinoK
he doesn't wanna cooperate but I banned him everywhere
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
And no i did not, He probably closed the paypal account and faked the name with it, his name is Justin, but I believe the email he provided him was the original one we got from the 2019 seller, and I can't even access that myself
 
Alice241421 If you haven't done so yet, please change your EpicNPC password and email immediately to one only you have access to. As far as I'm aware, there is a scammer who has access to your EpicNPC account. And to boot, it's not allowed here to share your EpicNPC account in the first place.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
I'm doing it now, It is my fault for sharing it, I'll just wait on the payee so we can arrange a time i can pay his loss
 
Thank you for taking responsibility. Waiting on DinoK to give you his PayPal info. Make sure to send it to him as Friends and Family method so he isn't out of pocket while also providing a little extra security on his refund.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-alice241421.1962192/#post-7674551
@DinoK When you do dm me make sure the info and email is through epicnpc messenger, I changed my email and pw so the guy won't access it.
 
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