Scammed $150 and fees ($6+) by tokyo1337 using OpSkins

TeamKillerKing · Jan 16, 2018

Information
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Dispute Date: e.g. Jan 17, 2018
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: aseck123
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: tokyo1337
Your Instant Messenger ID: allan

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DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? steam account
Link of transaction thread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1232141-sick-main-acc-with-faceit-lvl10-GE-850w-2500h-115steamlvl-2k9-coins
Approximate value of property: $150 USD + g2a via opskins fees

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
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Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:

here's the prepared item for 150$ https://opskins.com/?loc=shop_view_item&item=365227945

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Pictures/Screenshots:

Other proof:

Notice how the opskins link have the pencil icon beside it? It means it has been edited. That's why I have been wondering, why would I be able to buy anything else from opskins, if I was a first time user and I have no other links open. Daylight clear evidence that tokyo1337 has edited his opskins link into making me think that he did send the "right" link for his item, where in theory, he could have multiple boreal forest p250s on his account. And knowing that there's no way to find out who you're buying skins from opskins, I have to hand it to him. This is in fact a good scam.

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? No
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? 12
This ******* kept me up late. Made me wait 5 hours. He knew before his phone went "dead" (from the screenshots you could see him saying that he has to check his items on that account blah blah) that I already bought something from opskins. If you were in his position, wouldn't you check your balance right away? Checking opskins doesn't take a minute to refresh. He stalled too long. But thank goodness I realized I got scammed by this guy who verified his identity on this site with lots of feedback.

Again the devil is in the details. Why would he EDIT the link of the item that he wanted me to buy? There's no way I could check. But that's good enough reason for me to think that I got duped by this poor kid. I'm sure he won't admit it. And there's no way OPskins would refund me or disclose the owner of the p250 skin I bought, so I will just report this to my credit card company.

Thanks for looking. My advice, don't follow instructions from people even with high feedback. Stick with the safest way for you to pay. Opskins is a legit site, but paying for someone through opskins (or any skin market site), would be hard to trace and chances are you won't get your money back.

To admins and mods, I want to send every single chat we had. But it's already 6am as of right now. I'm really tired and I need to sleep. If you need more proof, I could send it to you. Turns out, he edited a lot of his messages. Didn't know what that pencil icon was until I google'd it. I'm also willing to give any admin my account details on Skype so you could read the whole conversation. He was saying at the last parts of our convo that my screenshots from opskins could be photoshopped, or I bought a skin from a friend's account. Lol hahahaha I hope your computer explodes on your face tokyo1337. You poor scammer ****.

tokyo1337 · Jan 16, 2018

"Notice how the opskins link have the pencil icon beside it? It means it has been edited."
"Turns out, he edited a lot of his messages."
Yeah, exactly. I'm editing typos all the time, as soon as I spot them, is that really a reason I deserve a ban?

"wouldn't you check your balance right away? "
Well, maybe because to login to opskins I need my phone too?

"by this poor kid"
You're a random guy from PHILIPPINES flaming about 150$ and you dare to care others "poor", no comment. Also - "kid" - look how you're using stuff like "lol" in sentences where it makes no sense etc, also randomly insulting people on the internet, also pretending to be a nice guy on skype writing how you want to fix this then 10 minutes later posting this thread... I'm pretty sure we both know who's the "kid" between the two of us.

I don't know if you bought a different item on purpose or not anymore, but the situation is really funny.

TeamKillerKing · Jan 16, 2018

Blah blah blah. Proove it. Yes it's funny. Typical scammer. Do insults but never show proof. Don't worry. Opskins will ban you too.

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How can you have a typo on your product link in opskins when its copy paste. Let an admin connect on your computer with team viewer. I'm willing for an admin to even login to my skype. Or team viewer. Instead of insulting back, prove your innocence if you can. Goodluck.

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Admins, if this guy wouldn't let anyone of you do teamviewer on his computer to check his opskins item sales history. That's it.

tokyo1337 · Jan 16, 2018

"Opskins will ban you too."
No, they won't.

"How can you have a typo on your product link in opskins when its copy paste."
The typo was in a word by the link, there are some in the same line, I assume you can read properly.

"team viewer"
I can show my opskins history or skype chat, there is nothing to hide.

"prove your innocence if you can"
This is not how life works, I don't really care about your opinion on proving guilt, and frankly noone else does.

EpicNPC CM · Jan 18, 2018

Okay so Team contacts tokyo for GE account.
Tokyo tells Team he cant be paid with paypal, prefers OP skins
Tokyo sends OPskins link, confirms Team purchased the item from the link
Once Team confirms this, Tokyo claims his phone is dead
Some hours later, tokyo returns, claims he never received payment, and the item he linked is still up for sale
Team has no OPskins balance, claims he bought the item linked earlier.

Correct?

TeamKillerKing · Jan 18, 2018

EpicNPC CM said:
Okay so Team contacts tokyo for GE account.
Tokyo tells Team he cant be paid with paypal, prefers OP skins
Tokyo sends OPskins link, confirms Team purchased the item from the link
Once Team confirms this, Tokyo claims his phone is dead
Some hours later, tokyo returns, claims he never received payment, and the item he linked is still up for sale
Team has no OPskins balance, claims he bought the item linked earlier.

Correct?

Yes. Will post screenshots of my opskins transactions later as ifs 530am here already. Should he do the same, I suggest a teamviewer seasion would be better. As he could photoshop it. I’ m willing to do a teamviewer session so any admin could check i really did purchase a $150 p250 boreal forest from opskins.

TeamKillerKing · Jan 19, 2018

ARMIK · Jan 19, 2018

[HIDE=9999999]I find it hard to believe that there could be another seller on opskins listing a 0.02$ skin exactly as 150$ and it was sold at the same time. There is something really weird going on with the seller. Request a skype screenshare/team viewer with him. But note that before he starts the stream (if he is smart enough) he could switch steam accounts and it would show no trade history. [/HIDE]

tokyo1337 · Jan 20, 2018

Looks like it takes pretty long for admins to make a proper decision, so I'll post some more info. Sorry for late response with this, I was kinda busy.

Here's the list of my opskins sold history - https://imgur.com/a/AMSyE . As you can see I've got one older transaction from december 20, same way, I already reached my paypal limit then so a guy paid me via opskins, had no problems, all went fine. Here's the image of the item page I linked to teamkillerking (and he linked it too in the topic) - https://imgur.com/a/H4de4 - as you can see it's really my item. If someone really thinks it's fake I can share screen and show it live.

There's no way to fake opskins and upload another item with same id or something, every id is unique and probably even opskins admins couldn't change that. (and obviously even if I were an opskins admin I wouldn't be wasting my time here xD)

Please close this ridiculous report and give a warning to teamkillerking. (I assume you can't ban him, since he didn't scam me, only tried) People are messaging me worried that I may scam them because of this topic, it has really bad effect for me.

TeamKillerKing · Jan 20, 2018

Tried? I lost money. I already reported to my bank so either way I get it back in the end. If you want to sell online don’t make it hard for buyers. There’s no protection outside paypal. Yeah keep yapping. You’re the one selling, you need the money. Don’t insult your customers.

tokyo1337 · Jan 20, 2018

TeamKillerKing said:
Tried? I lost money. I already reported to my bank so either way I get it back in the end. If you want to sell online don’t make it hard for buyers. There’s no protection outside paypal. Yeah keep yapping. You’re the one selling, you need the money. Don’t insult your customers.

Are you joking? No protection outside paypal? Paypal is the worst online payment system (yet the most popular), how do you think me and other sellers lost money many times? Well, thanks to paypal rules and allowing scammers to chargeback whatever they wan't. Also I didn't insult anyone. Stop arguing with me, just wait for admin's response.

R1me · Jan 20, 2018

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doomedtofail · Jan 20, 2018

[MENTION=375259]tokyo1337[/MENTION] buyers get scammed on paypal constantly too, but using method younare using is ripe for seller abuse like it appears to be.

tokyo1337 · Jan 20, 2018

doomedtofail said:
@tokyo1337 buyers get scammed on paypal constantly too, but using method younare using is ripe for seller abuse like it appears to be.

I don't understand why do you think so? It's a payment method like any other.

I would normally have used paypal but like I said my paypal is currently locked, I can upload screenshots of that too if you need.

Austin Powers · Jan 22, 2018

ok no more arguing only respond if a moderator or admin asks a question and its to answer the question.

please confirm if this is correct :

Okay so Team contacts tokyo for GE account.
Tokyo tells Team he cant be paid with paypal, prefers OP skins
Tokyo sends OPskins link, confirms Team purchased the item from the link
Once Team confirms this, Tokyo claims his phone is dead
Some hours later, tokyo returns, claims he never received payment, and the item he linked is still up for sale
Team has no OPskins balance, claims he bought the item linked earlier.

Correct?

If so [MENTION=375259]tokyo1337[/MENTION] please explain how you edited the link you sent over skype to buy the skin

tokyo1337 · Jan 23, 2018

Austin Powers said:
ok no more arguing only respond if a moderator or admin asks a question and its to answer the question.
@tokyo1337 please explain how you edited the link you sent over skype to buy the skin

What do you mean "how"? First of all like I said, I didn't edit the link, I've edited a typo in words from the same line, probably something like "heres" -> "here's" or "teh" -> "the", now I don't remember of course. And if you meant "technically" how, well skype offers editing messages for some time after sending them, just right click -> edit, it's not a secret. xD I always try to edit typos, if the site/app offers editing, you can even check that on my forum posts.

Epic 1NPC · Jan 23, 2018

The chances 2 separate sellers listed the same $0.02 item for sale for $150 at the same time are zero. The fact the sale link is edited means the seller has no evidence to show what he told the buyer to do.
[MENTION=375259]tokyo1337[/MENTION] we are not accepting your skype image as evidence because it's been edited. We will not accept any explanation of the edit.

Toykyo1337, take a video of your OPskins account and go to your inventory page and sale history page. Scroll though the pages until you get to Jan 15. Make sure to show this item on your account https://opskins.com/?loc=shop_view_item&item=365227945 and click on it. Make sure the URL is visible the whole time. Otherwise we will not accept the video and will assume it's a different OPskins account.

Upload the video and send me the URL.

In the future, if you edit the payment message on skype, you will automatically lose any dispute.

If I do not receive the video in 48 hrs, tokyo1337 owes $150 to teamkillerking.

tokyo1337 · Jan 23, 2018

EpicNPC said:
The chances 2 separate sellers listed the same $0.02 item for sale for $150 at the same time are zero.

Have to disagree on that. Just take a look at opskins, instead of imaging how it looks - https://imgur.com/a/kAsmg . As you can see there is my item for 150$ and also many others for 100/150/200/500 etc. If anyone still thinks I'm faking this or listing from other accounts or whatever then take a look at any trash item you want on opskins, there are listings like this everywhere. (example https://imgur.com/a/5Cmh5 )

EpicNPC said:
Toykyo1337, take a video of your OPskins account and go to your inventory page and sale history page. Scroll though the pages until you get to Jan 15. Make sure to show this item on your account https://opskins.com/?loc=shop_view_item&item=365227945 and click on it. Make sure the URL is visible the whole time. Otherwise we will not accept the video and will assume it's a different OPskins account.

tokyo*** And sure I can do that, but tell me what software am I supposed to use, I have nothing for recording my screen and never done that before. Unless you want me to just use a phone? (the quality would be bad though) At the meantime you can check the screenshot of my opskins page from my previous post.

EpicNPC said:
In the future, if you edit the payment message on skype, you will automatically lose any dispute.

I will surely remember that for the future, don't worry.

Austin Powers · Jan 24, 2018

this is his 2nd dispute with same "dead phone" issue same edited posts over skype etc this is definately not a co-incidence
[MENTION=375259]tokyo1337[/MENTION] you have 48 hours to refund or he will be banned

Epic 1NPC · Jan 24, 2018

You can use this to record your screen
https://icecreamapps.com/Screen-Recorder/

2nd dispute with edited OPskins buy post in skype.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1257332-Scammed-for-200-by-tokyo1337

Upgrades removed, warning added.

TeamKillerKing · Jan 25, 2018

He still won't admit it. He already scammed another poor dude like me, just trying to buy something in this forum. Is it really that hard to make $150 or $200? Will that send you to college? Hahahahaha chances of getting the refund is highly unlikely. I'm just busy right now. But I'll report your account to OPskins too. You worthless piece of poor ****. I also reported this case to my bank. Keep your steam account, maybe try selling it to your classmates in school. Lol

tokyo1337 · Jan 25, 2018

TeamKillerKing said:
He still won't admit it. He already scammed another poor dude like me, just trying to buy something in this forum. Is it really that hard to make $150 or $200? Will that send you to college? Hahahahaha chances of getting the refund is highly unlikely. I'm just busy right now. But I'll report your account to OPskins too. You worthless piece of poor ****. I also reported this case to my bank. Keep your steam account, maybe try selling it to your classmates in school. Lol

I'm pretty sure I've got like 10-20x your balance on my bank account, mad philippines boy. Also opskins won't ban me btw, but you can dream. xD

All I can say is - karma. I was always super fair and nice, trying my best to provide good steam accounts for customers to be happy, also never selling scammed accounts that are likely to be recalled (like 90% of sellers do, even highly repped, they're simply reselling scammed accounts, it's pretty obvious if you know things around). And what did I get for that? Chargebacks on paypal for 500+$ in total, trolls, liars, also 1 good account recalled, and other scam attempts. I decided it's not worth my time anymore, and got back what I deserved "this way". And it's not really the value, as a perfectionist, it's about justice and my time, I didn't waste all this time only to get ripped of my profit. So if anyone lost anything because of me, say "thank you" to the community, cause they're the reason we're here.

Bye bye epicnpc! I'd wish you good luck, but I know this scammers paradise won't change anytime soon.

ARMIK · Jan 25, 2018

[HIDE=999999999]I think he uses 2 accounts to list the same kind of weapon. He lists it on the first account and the item gets bought. Then he edits the skype message with a new link from a different account so that he has proof that it's still on sale.[/HIDE]

EpicNPC CM · Jan 25, 2018

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Scammed $150 and fees ($6+) by tokyo1337 using OpSkins

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