Scam involving wetPlatypus and oaklandthizz

[sachamo88]

Information
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Date that scamming took place: aug 18 2011
Method of Contact Used: aim
Instant Messenger ID of scammer:
safeplatypus and alonzo gaskin
Your Instant Messenger ID: your nickname on IM client sachamo1234
MMOBay Account of Scammer:View Profile: Wetplatypus - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - MMOBay.net
View Profile: OaklandThizz - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - MMOBay.net

Scam Information
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What was scammed? wow account
Link of transaction thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...nity-amani-war-bear-9-9-t3-unobtainables.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $500.00

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who?
Describe how you were scammed: got account from a rl friend that got from wetplatypus i was on the account today aug 18 2011 when i got d/c tried logging on and wont let me call bliz they said someone called into the account i was on phone from rl firend so wasnt him the there is wetplatypus and oaklandthizz oakland messages me aug 17 late at night saying he got account i traded him awhile back locked and needs id i told him id try and get it but idk if i could then my mage gets recalled

Other details / notes:

Proof
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alonzo gaskin 7:53 pm
[Offline IM sent 3h and 32m ago] mage got locked after i tried doing a xfer and think i need I.D....

SACHAMO1234 11:26 pm
thats not good

alonzo gaskin 11:26 pm
anyway u can get it?

SACHAMO1234 11:27 pm
i can try find a way to get in touch with oo if i can but other than that i cant

SACHAMO1234 12:10 am
im trying to find oo info but having no luck atm

alonzo gaskin 12:16 am
Are u looking for him on Mmobay?

SACHAMO1234 12:16 am
no through my old aim logs

SACHAMO1234 12:21 am
not on mmobay just went trough all feedback i had

SACHAMO1234 12:27 am
ill keep searching mate but im srry i need to get some sleep been up almost 3 days straight now ill figure something out about the mage

alonzo gaskin (gaskinalonzo) is available 10:24 am
alonzo gaskin 1:31 pm
find the I.D yet?
get the I.D or get me sumthing cause im not gonna sit around without the mage or a account

alonzo gaskin 1:35 pm
so let me know what your gonna do

SACHAMO1234 1:36 pm
trying to find it dude

alonzo gaskin 1:40 pm
k well ill give u a day to figure it out

alonzo gaskin 1:44 pm
i already let platypus know

alonzo gaskin 1:53 pm
so i dont know what your gonna do when I get my rogue back and platypus gets his mage

SACHAMO1234 1:56 pm
you know this is a fishy day for fact u message me saying the mage got locked b/c of u im assuming secondly my vanity account gets recalled like 2 hours ago which the accout came from safeplatypus so im assuming that unless i find a way to gdt u id to ur mage that ur going to end up with the vanity account from safe cause i believe he recalled it this morning

alonzo gaskin 1:56 pm
fishy day...the account got locked yesterday i confronted u since than
so dont act like its new to u
you owe him money as far as he told me

SACHAMO1234 1:59 pm
yeah u confronted me late lastnight agreeded but since i told u idk if i can get id and technically i owe him nothing i offered to help compensate him but it wasnt in my intreste to do anything cause i wasnt one who had anything to do eith trade he made with joker

alonzo gaskin 1:59 pm
lol so u didnt vouch or...know he was previously banned highly unlikely
anyways figure it out in a day, or im just taking my rogue back
simple

SACHAMO1234 2:00 pm
no i know he was banned previously and i vouched for him cause the reason he got banned imo is bull****

alonzo gaskin 2:01 pm
you also said u knew him In real life and i dont know what i doubt u do and thats fishy as far as i know
u vouched for a scammer
and thats it
if u get I.D tomorrow all is good, but otherwise im getting my rogue back

SACHAMO1234 2:03 pm
yeah i know him in real life i know a lot of ppl but that dont mean **** dude might as well take rogue then cause i highly doubt i can get id to the account cause i cant find who i got it from before i traded it to cattwithgatt

SACHAMO1234 2:03 pm
but this convo and one safeplaty having is being posted on mmobay to find out wtf u to are doing cause the mage getting recalled this morning soon as blizz opens up is fishy between u to

alonzo gaskin 2:04 pm
i asked for the I.D thats all i said so whatever he does has nothing to do with me
im taking my rogue back
i confronted him about it
so thats all there is to it
i asked him for more detail about his compensation he said u and joker offered to compensate him
and never did

SACHAMO1234 2:06 pm
no i said id try to and joker said he wasnt

alonzo gaskin 2:08 pm
post the logs if u want theres nothing going on i just want the mage u gave me or the rogue simple





















































SACHAMO1234 12:59 pm
did u recall the mage

SafePlatypus is available 1:01 pm
SafePlatypus 1:01 pm
Huh?

SACHAMO1234 1:02 pm
someone just called into blizzard and recalled the mage
and now its locked and i wanna know who did it

SafePlatypus 1:04 pm
wtf really? what time?

SACHAMO1234 1:04 pm
like hour ago

SafePlatypus 1:06 pm
I'll see what I can do
Even though I sitll never got any comp from Joker and **** and I'm still **** outta luck

SACHAMO1234 1:08 pm
yeah but u got the rogue back from alonzo

SafePlatypus 1:10 pm
I hope you're still not dealing with Joker
and I ended up paying Alonzo

SACHAMO1234 1:11 pm
wasnt joker that recalled mage cause i was on phonew with him when it happened

SafePlatypus 1:20 pm
you matched the exact times?

SACHAMO1234 1:27 pm
yeah
blizzard told me when they did it and also i was booted off while playing it and i was on phone with him

SafePlatypus 1:28 pm
They did what?

SACHAMO1234 1:29 pm
told me approx time that somwonw called in about the account

SafePlatypus 1:44 pm
Your buddy just ****ed you over dude.
Not getting you the mage back.
GL though

SACHAMO1234 1:48 pm
huh wtf u talking about

SafePlatypus 1:48 pm
go ask your buddy
he's ****ed

SACHAMO1234 1:49 pm
wat u mean he ****ed im lost

SafePlatypus 1:49 pm
seriously go talk too him
that kid has prob ****ed you voer more times then you eeven know
and if he tells you a different story
I'll show you the logs

SACHAMO1234 1:50 pm
show me logs then

SafePlatypus 1:51 pm
kk

SACHAMO1234 2:00 pm
were logs at bro or u editing them to say what u want them to say

SafePlatypus 2:00 pm
Nah dealing with Mark right now

Saturday, August 13, 2011
SafePlatypus (9:40:03 PM):	Hey man
SACHAMO1234 (9:40:22 PM):	ok srry took a little longer but yeah i still have mage and all
SafePlatypus (9:40:47 PM):	Yea I've been talking to Oakland so this will be fixed in no time.
SACHAMO1234 (9:41:30 PM):	sweet oakland is cool guy he has a mage that i traded him for rogue
SafePlatypus (9:41:59 PM):	Hear anything from Joker?
SACHAMO1234 (9:42:23 PM):	no i just sent him a txt asking wtf
SACHAMO1234 (9:43:43 PM):	i dont think he would recall cause like i said ive dealt with him since 08 so im confused on y he would if he did
SafePlatypus (9:44:10 PM):	Well it got recalled, apparently.
SafePlatypus (9:44:17 PM):	Now they're looking into the issue.
SACHAMO1234 (9:45:08 PM):	and i dont think oakland would have recalled cause he knows if he did that mage he has now would be gone in an instant
SafePlatypus (9:45:44 PM):	I don't think he did.
SACHAMO1234 (9:46:18 PM):	i dont either and with joker not answering that bugging me alot but still dont understand y he would knowing i have the mage he got from rogue trade
SafePlatypus (9:47:00 PM):	Yea well Oak has to do a lot of **** to get the rogue back now so you'd better be talking to Joker about compensating man I don't want you to get ****ed over in this, but yea.
SACHAMO1234 (9:48:50 PM):	i understand bro no prob let me know what the compensation going to be i might try to help out on it but ima try find out what joker did
SafePlatypus (9:49:35 PM):	No worries man, I'll keep ya posted, i'm heading out for the night, I can go now that Oak has done what he has so far
SACHAMO1234 (9:50:07 PM):	aight cool ima eat and do same got a after wedding party to attend to
SafePlatypus (9:50:58 PM):	Alright man, talk to you tomorrow how about?
SACHAMO1234 (9:51:30 PM):	thats fine u got my cell number if im not on aim just shoot me a txt
SafePlatypus (9:51:37 PM):	Sounds good
SACHAMO1234 (9:51:40 PM):	cool
SafePlatypus went idle at 10:11:02 PM
SafePlatypus came back from idle at 10:30:01 PM
SafePlatypus went idle at 10:45:14 PM
Sunday, August 14, 2011
SafePlatypus (1:25:43 AM):	Hey mate
SACHAMO1234 (1:26:13 AM):	hey
SafePlatypus (1:26:46 AM):	Yea I'll get back too you about compensating but you should take a look at this dude...
SafePlatypus (1:26:56 AM):	http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387170-iy-joker-yi-%7C-prevsious-banned-scammer-md-%7C-owes-money-account-%7C.html
SACHAMO1234 (1:27:06 AM):	yeah i seen earlier
SACHAMO1234 (1:27:23 AM):	like i told alanzo im done with joker period
SafePlatypus (1:28:03 AM):	It sucks that all this **** is gonna rebound now
SafePlatypus (1:28:16 AM):	Like I don't want too **** you over you know, but I don't want to be left with nothing either...
SACHAMO1234 (1:28:53 AM):	yeha only good this is alonzo is only one with the id to the rogue so thats that but mage on other hand joker has cd keys to it but idk man **** right here pisses me off
SafePlatypus (1:29:17 AM):	Yea, joker has cd keys to the rogue too so..
SACHAMO1234 (1:29:39 AM):	yeah that does suck but id gets farther with blizzard
SafePlatypus (1:37:24 AM):	True, I just hope I can get this back, I still need to pay Oak something for this though, just something to think about eh dude? Really sucks that Joker would pull this ****
SACHAMO1234 (1:47:49 AM):	yeah srry laptop went to power save didnt have charger on
SafePlatypus (1:53:32 AM):	No worries
SafePlatypus (2:03:03 AM):	Whos Sachamo88?
SACHAMO1234 (2:03:17 AM):	me of course
SafePlatypus (2:03:48 AM):	Whats with the chain trading thread?
SACHAMO1234 (2:04:38 AM):	a jack ***
SafePlatypus (2:15:45 AM):	Joker is talking too me right now
SACHAMO1234 (2:17:10 AM):	he just txt me back a few min ago
SafePlatypus (2:18:02 AM):	Its funny cause he kept telling me how much he enjoyed the mage, but he traded too you?
SACHAMO1234 (2:20:51 AM):	yeah cause i had something he wanted bad
SafePlatypus (2:21:36 AM):	Hm
SafePlatypus (2:34:20 AM):	Also
SafePlatypus (2:34:27 AM):	Go read my post in your thread about imhome123
SafePlatypus (2:37:01 AM):	And Joker isn't going to compensate me at all dude, so there might be a problem now...
SafePlatypus (2:45:53 AM):	You here dude?
SafePlatypus went idle at 3:12:01 AM
SafePlatypus (2:06:29 PM):	Did you get my messages last night?
SACHAMO1234 (2:06:47 PM):	which one'
SafePlatypus (2:06:57 PM):	bout Joker not compensating at all
SACHAMO1234 (2:07:15 PM):	well i just helped alonzo fix his account
SafePlatypus (2:08:48 PM):	huh?
SACHAMO1234 (2:09:24 PM):	alonzo traded his mage last night account he got dude recalled and i had to recall mage for him about hour ago
SafePlatypus (2:09:39 PM):	That's nice but doesn't help me at all? lol
SACHAMO1234 (2:09:57 PM):	i know im trying to think of something
SafePlatypus (2:11:00 PM):	Alright
SACHAMO1234 (2:11:28 PM):	but all i have to offer is an account thats it
SafePlatypus (2:12:02 PM):	whats it got
SACHAMO1234 (2:20:17 PM):	pally and a mage

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? no
Approximately how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? 20+

now idk if this going to be labeled as a scam but but kinda fishy the mage i got from wetplatypus got recalled after fact that i told oakland that i rpob wont be able to get the id to mage he has

 

[OaklandThizz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/433371-scam-involving-wetplatypus-oaklandthizz-6.html

I told you I was either wanting the I.D to the Mage you gave me http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-...6-mage-max-prof-fireland-raid-rdy-6k-ach.html

or I'd recall my rogue. I contacted Platypus telling him to be aware that If you dont supply the I.D i'd recall the rogue I traded you

He has every right to recall his mage if he wants Since I was no longer able to access your Mage you gave me without I.D sent in.



You openly knew View Profile: thejokerx89 - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - MMOBay.net was a Previous banned scammer and still traded to him My rogue anyways You were Vouching for him and saying you knew him In Person which i highly doubt

---------- Post added 08-18-2011 at 01:28 PM ----------

Stop saying there Real life friends I highly doubt they are.

---------- Post added 08-18-2011 at 01:31 PM ----------

Also you and Your "Real life friend" joker. owe Platypus money as he told me today.

 

[MTNDEW!]

Banned - multiple accounts - scammer - spriestforlock

Yeah sachamo He edited my **** aswell on the scam thread its w/e man i need to stop tradeing anyway im gone mike will ban me prob..........

 

[OaklandThizz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/433371-scam-involving-wetplatypus-oaklandthizz-6.html

Lol yeah sure MTNDEW he editted your ****...when u admitted and people found more **** on you

 

[Wetplatypus]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/440205-account-recalled-seller-unresponsive.html

LOL MTN I didn't edit any of your ****. And I'll put up logs to clear this up, Mike give me an hour, I'm at work.

 

[sachamo88]

and oakland joker lives only 2 hours from my house from door to door and just cause u got ur mage locked gives no ****ing right for wetplatypus to recall his mage from me i was on phone with joker playing the mage when the mage got recalled so i know it wasnt him like i said imo the reason joker is banned is bs and regardless what he is banned for here i trust him like i said he is a friend and i told u from beginning i didnt have id to that mage only the keys and u traded anyway want proof of that convo here it is

Wednesday, July 20, 2011
SACHAMO1234 (8:19:39 PM):	hey
gaskinalonzo signed on at 8:31:59 PM
alonzo gaskin (8:32:20 PM):	whats up bud
SACHAMO1234 (8:33:08 PM):	hey
SACHAMO1234 (8:33:19 PM):	u interested in a mage any
alonzo gaskin (8:33:28 PM):	armory
SACHAMO1234 (8:34:12 PM):	http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/daggerspine/Maxyquaye/simple
alonzo gaskin (8:34:13 PM):	rogue has main hand btw forgot to list on thread
alonzo gaskin (8:34:20 PM):	glaive*
SACHAMO1234 (8:34:24 PM):	can i get armory pof rogue as well
alonzo gaskin (8:34:59 PM):	http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/azgalor/Vérizon/simple
alonzo gaskin (8:35:07 PM):	also a 80 dk,71 mage with boa
alonzo gaskin (8:35:19 PM):	and 30ish hunter with boa
SACHAMO1234 (8:35:32 PM):	can u change to pve gear plz
alonzo gaskin (8:35:42 PM):	im pvping atm
alonzo gaskin (8:35:45 PM):	so cant atm
SACHAMO1234 (8:36:06 PM):	aight well when u get done
alonzo gaskin (8:39:14 PM):	check if armory updated
alonzo gaskin (8:41:10 PM):	i stopped raiding for a bit. so thats the reason for lack of more 378 gear
alonzo gaskin (8:41:16 PM):	easily pulls good dps tho
SACHAMO1234 (8:41:44 PM):	how much gold
alonzo gaskin (8:42:13 PM):	like 1k?
alonzo gaskin (8:42:16 PM):	why does that matter?
SACHAMO1234 (8:42:35 PM):	to finish lvling prof if we trade and i have like 15k
alonzo gaskin (8:43:12 PM):	i gave my gold to my relative since i was trading left it with just 1k
SACHAMO1234 (8:43:41 PM):	mk
alonzo gaskin (8:43:52 PM):	looking for vanity and gear most be as geared or better than my mage no exceptions to this pve is a must pvp is an option
alonzo gaskin (8:44:02 PM):	why would u contact me lol
alonzo gaskin (8:44:20 PM):	anyways cya
SACHAMO1234 (8:45:07 PM):	ok then be a ****** i said that cause of 3 geared lvl 85s i moved mage to a fresh bnet new keys and all im only one to touch it but watever cya around
alonzo gaskin (8:45:23 PM):	um okay
alonzo gaskin (8:45:25 PM):	cya
alonzo gaskin (8:47:17 PM):	dont see how im a ****** tho
SACHAMO1234 (8:47:59 PM):	getting all defensive cause i asked how much gold and questioning y i asked u about the rogue since my last post said something different
alonzo gaskin (8:48:20 PM):	cause i dont get asked about gold ever which was why i got defensive
SACHAMO1234 (8:48:51 PM):	i asked cause i dont leave my toons broke and rather not get a broke toon
alonzo gaskin (8:50:59 PM):	k well i cant get the gold back told him it was his since i was trading guess thats the issue so good luck than?
SACHAMO1234 (8:52:56 PM):	not an issue just thinking atm
SACHAMO1234 (8:56:04 PM):	is rogue ms assanation or combat
alonzo gaskin (8:56:17 PM):	he was originally MS combat
SACHAMO1234 (8:56:38 PM):	thought combat sucked
SACHAMO1234 (8:56:40 PM):	lol
alonzo gaskin (8:56:58 PM):	if you know how to play it nope
gaskinalonzo signed off at 9:32:35 PM
SACHAMO1234 (9:34:25 PM):	how much gametime
gaskinalonzo signed on at 10:21:10 PM
alonzo gaskin (10:22:06 PM):	like 2 days left. would of added more but no point if trading....i'm likely gonna see what type of gold offers i get for the account considering im rerolling on another server
SACHAMO1234 (10:22:47 PM):	well im very interested in it
SACHAMO1234 (10:22:56 PM):	so let me know in a heroic atm brb
alonzo gaskin (10:23:07 PM):	do you have the I.D?
alonzo gaskin (10:23:09 PM):	and keys?
alonzo gaskin (10:23:27 PM):	otherwise i'll hold back on giving I.D if you only have the keys
SACHAMO1234 (10:23:47 PM):	i have the keys
alonzo gaskin (10:24:13 PM):	the account is on it original since BC
alonzo gaskin (10:24:17 PM):	not a wow1 account
alonzo gaskin (10:24:42 PM):	i have my I.D ,keys and info to the address to it
SACHAMO1234 (10:24:49 PM):	kk mage is on a fresh account moved it off other so im only one with info for it
alonzo gaskin (10:24:57 PM):	who did you get it from
alonzo gaskin (10:25:06 PM):	so i know the whole ordeal
alonzo gaskin (10:25:14 PM):	if anything were to happen
alonzo gaskin (10:25:18 PM):	and how long have you had it
SACHAMO1234 (10:26:57 PM):	ive had mage for long time
SACHAMO1234 (10:27:11 PM):	i got keys off a repped and twv member on mmobay
SACHAMO1234 (10:27:49 PM):	btw holding 21k on 5 man heroic
alonzo gaskin (10:30:30 PM):	okay well let me confirm my keys to see if there correct
alonzo gaskin (10:30:31 PM):	one sec
SACHAMO1234 (10:30:58 PM):	kk
alonzo gaskin (10:31:10 PM):	did you plan to xfer him?
alonzo gaskin (10:31:13 PM):	just curious
SACHAMO1234 (10:31:20 PM):	eventually i will
alonzo gaskin (10:31:49 PM):	okay, well i'll give keys to the account if you get the I.D i'll give you mine that sound good?
SACHAMO1234 (10:32:05 PM):	kk brb just a min in heroic still
alonzo gaskin (10:33:28 PM):	sc2 is also on the account
SACHAMO1234 (10:33:41 PM):	there nothing but mage on the account
SACHAMO1234 (10:34:02 PM):	xfer it off the other account
alonzo gaskin (10:34:18 PM):	itsfine
SACHAMO1234 (10:34:38 PM):	ima leave heroic after this boss ill show u mage in game
alonzo gaskin (10:35:49 PM):	what was the server name again
SACHAMO1234 (10:36:05 PM):	daggerspine
alonzo gaskin (10:39:40 PM):	so you had it for a while?
alonzo gaskin (10:39:47 PM):	u just got it a couple days ago
alonzo gaskin (10:39:56 PM):	http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-trading/429710-mage-dk-hunter-druid-pally.html
alonzo gaskin (10:40:17 PM):	lieing doesn't help
SACHAMO1234 (10:40:58 PM):	wrong had the same mage before i traded it to him
SACHAMO1234 (10:41:18 PM):	i traded to him back in march or april
SACHAMO1234 (10:41:36 PM):	then we traded back
SACHAMO1234 (10:42:54 PM):	i can pull his aim name and ur more than welcome to ask
SACHAMO1234 (10:43:14 PM):	and on top of it its on a new bnet so dont really c y its an issue
alonzo gaskin (10:44:01 PM):	i'm just curious thats all
alonzo gaskin (10:44:20 PM):	anyways im in orc zone
SACHAMO1234 (10:46:00 PM):	pst maxyquaye
alonzo gaskin (10:46:35 PM):	badboys requires me to be level 2!
SACHAMO1234 (10:52:09 PM):	yeah awesome addon
alonzo gaskin (10:52:26 PM):	k gonna log onto my rogue
alonzo gaskin (10:52:29 PM):	go on azgalor
SACHAMO1234 (10:52:52 PM):	just bloodthirsty on pvp gear
alonzo gaskin (10:54:32 PM):	i talked to cat
alonzo gaskin (10:54:33 PM):	Yes he did. Oddly enough, he had traded it too me a few months back, too.
SACHAMO1234 (10:54:59 PM):	weird then how he get it back
alonzo gaskin (10:55:21 PM):	not sure but i'm helding you guys accountable if anything happens
SACHAMO1234 (10:55:35 PM):	hmmm
alonzo gaskin (10:55:58 PM):	well im on azgalor
SACHAMO1234 (10:56:14 PM):	same
SACHAMO1234 (10:56:19 PM):	same name as my mage
SACHAMO1234 (10:57:21 PM):	when did u talk to cat
alonzo gaskin (10:57:31 PM):	about 2 mins ago
SACHAMO1234 (10:57:36 PM):	says he offline to me
alonzo gaskin (10:57:46 PM):	hes on mmobay
alonzo gaskin (10:57:57 PM):	i asked Did sachamo88 recently trade or buy that mage from you?
alonzo gaskin (10:58:05 PM):	Yes he did. Oddly enough, he had traded it too me a few months back, too.
SACHAMO1234 (10:58:36 PM):	i wanna know how if he traded with you he got it back
alonzo gaskin (10:59:12 PM):	what do you mean traded with me?
SACHAMO1234 (11:00:06 PM):	you said u had mage also and got from cat i was wondering how i got it back from you
alonzo gaskin (11:00:16 PM):	.....no
alonzo gaskin (11:00:20 PM):	thats what cat said
alonzo gaskin (11:00:21 PM):	not me
alonzo gaskin (11:00:34 PM):	he said he had it before
SACHAMO1234 (11:00:40 PM):	oooo ok nvm read that wrong
alonzo gaskin (11:02:37 PM):	total played 444 days 11 hours
SACHAMO1234 (11:02:51 PM):	have u gotten any fireland rep yet
alonzo gaskin (11:03:12 PM):	he hasnt hit friendly, but about half way there
alonzo gaskin (11:03:17 PM):	stopped raiding
alonzo gaskin (11:03:20 PM):	for a bit
SACHAMO1234 (11:03:50 PM):	hmmm very interested trying to make a decision
SACHAMO1234 (11:08:12 PM):	how much gametime did u say again
alonzo gaskin (11:08:38 PM):	said 2 days left didnt both adding cause i rarely played once in a while due to trading and working
alonzo gaskin (11:08:43 PM):	bother
alonzo gaskin (11:09:04 PM):	anyways gonna pvp
SACHAMO1234 (11:09:09 PM):	aight
alonzo gaskin (11:11:11 PM):	likely gonna just sell it
alonzo gaskin (11:11:16 PM):	or trade for gold
SACHAMO1234 (11:11:24 PM):	kk
alonzo gaskin (11:11:32 PM):	cant pay for 3 accounts anymore
alonzo gaskin (11:11:37 PM):	so have to get rid of sum
SACHAMO1234 (11:12:01 PM):	lol yeah i pay for 2 mine and my gf but i deal with it
alonzo gaskin (11:16:44 PM):	To my knowledge it is. I'm fairly confused why he's trying to get a rogue for the account when I originally traded a rogue to him for the mage account. (This is the thread where I got the mage - you can check it under my 'feedback left for others'. The feedback left by sach for me is when I traded the mage for an account he had.)
alonzo gaskin (11:16:49 PM):	thats what he said
SACHAMO1234 (11:25:02 PM):	meh traded the rogue then realized that i like the rogue and was thinking about getting another
Thursday, July 21, 2011
SACHAMO1234 (9:25:46 PM):	any good offers yet
alonzo gaskin (9:26:03 PM):	sum gold offers but nothing yet
SACHAMO1234 (9:27:12 PM):	ahh im still concidering trading my mage to you
alonzo gaskin (9:28:14 PM):	k well if i dont find any accounts that i like gonna just take the gold offer
SACHAMO1234 (9:28:58 PM):	what u think about my mage
alonzo gaskin (9:29:20 PM):	hes nice, i just want sumthing secure since this has been my account for a couple years
SACHAMO1234 (9:29:51 PM):	this one is secure i just moved mage to a new account all new keys and im only one to know keys
alonzo gaskin (9:31:27 PM):	yeah i mean i have no problem trading if you have the keys
alonzo gaskin (9:32:02 PM):	and such, just dont want to wake up to a recall months later than having to send in forms for rogue
SACHAMO1234 (9:32:03 PM):	yeah i got keys anyway to link rogue again in pve gear *** spec and weapons wanna look one more time b4 i make up my mind
SACHAMO1234 (9:32:15 PM):	naw no worries with this account
alonzo gaskin (9:33:20 PM):	Level 85 Orc Rogue | WoW Armory Profiles | Masked Armory
alonzo gaskin (9:33:29 PM):	illl get the real one in a bit
alonzo gaskin (9:33:31 PM):	busy atm
SACHAMO1234 (9:33:48 PM):	kk ill let u know for a fact within 30 min is that ok with you
alonzo gaskin (9:33:58 PM):	sure np
SACHAMO1234 (9:35:53 PM):	wat main hand dagger do u use
alonzo gaskin (9:37:32 PM):	Organic Lifeform Inverter - Item - World of Warcraft
SACHAMO1234 (10:06:35 PM):	aight man im down to trade if u are
alonzo gaskin (10:10:25 PM):	sure give me a sec
SACHAMO1234 (10:11:05 PM):	np just let me know when back removing friends on mage and whatnot 13k gold is on mage btw so u should be good lol
gaskinalonzo signed off at 10:12:34 PM
gaskinalonzo signed on at 10:16:56 PM
alonzo gaskin (10:17:57 PM):	making a new email and changing pass
SACHAMO1234 (10:19:36 PM):	kk im helping a guildie for a min so take ur time should be no more than a few min
alonzo gaskin (10:19:45 PM):	you can take the gold if you want
SACHAMO1234 (10:20:09 PM):	wont move rogue to that server going to a diff one so useless right now
alonzo gaskin (10:23:25 PM):	i can send the login and stuff through a attachment to a email
alonzo gaskin (10:23:29 PM):	key info etc
SACHAMO1234 (10:23:47 PM):	kk just a min then finishing last boss then done
SACHAMO1234 (10:25:00 PM):	rogue has master flying right
alonzo gaskin (10:25:07 PM):	yes sir
SACHAMO1234 (10:25:47 PM):	cool was curious so does mage
SACHAMO1234 (10:26:56 PM):	kk only friend on there is one i went through raf with
SACHAMO1234 (10:27:06 PM):	edit email
SACHAMO1234 (10:27:10 PM):	edit pass
alonzo gaskin (10:27:18 PM):	edit email
SACHAMO1234 (10:27:19 PM):	is login info u can check to see mage there
alonzo gaskin (10:27:22 PM):	edit pass
SACHAMO1234 (10:28:35 PM):	cool it worked
alonzo gaskin (10:28:55 PM):	yeah logging on. to check it out do you want the keys first
alonzo gaskin (10:29:10 PM):	Bc - edit
SACHAMO1234 (10:29:12 PM):	u can wait till trade is done then xfer the keys to me
alonzo gaskin (10:29:18 PM):	alrdy sent
SACHAMO1234 (10:29:26 PM):	Code: NA: 4YN94F-WWNZ-CTCXM6-6JT9-479W4M BC: BN7F9J-7RR4-9DTWR2-YYP4-XGPGBP
alonzo gaskin (10:29:30 PM):	needs spacing
alonzo gaskin (10:29:39 PM):	first is classic?
SACHAMO1234 (10:29:43 PM):	the cata and wotlk is a jpeg and ill send it to email
	send it to [email protected]

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

i remember this user pretty well he use to go by another name other then mtndew or boomkinz.... but i cant think of what it was. pretty sure he was a previously banned though ><

 

[OaklandThizz]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/433371-scam-involving-wetplatypus-oaklandthizz-6.html

i could careless i asked the I.D to get it unlocked. so if that wasnt happening i will need to recover my rogue. which im doing now

I wasn't gonna play nothing. I didnt scam you.

 

[kathrynomg]

i remember this user pretty well he use to go by another name other then mtndew or boomkinz.... but i cant think of what it was. pretty sure he was a previously banned though ><

this thread is walloftexty so i dunno whats going on, but yah i can give you like 19 emails that link back to mtndew if thats the problem again, all of which are scammers xD the internet never forgets, kids

 

[Wetplatypus]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/440205-account-recalled-seller-unresponsive.html

Even if I did call back the mage, which I didn't here's logs to show that you can't call it a "scam" because you said it was fine if I did recall.

August-13-11
SACHAMO1234 signed on at 9:39:31 PM
Safeplatypus (9:40:31 PM):	Hey man
SACHAMO1234 (9:40:51 PM):	ok srry took a little longer but yeah i still have mage and all
Safeplatypus (9:41:15 PM):	Yea I've been talking to Oakland so this will be fixed in no time.
SACHAMO1234 (9:41:59 PM):	sweet oakland is cool guy he has a mage that i traded him for rogue
Safeplatypus (9:42:28 PM):	Hear anything from Joker?
SACHAMO1234 (9:42:52 PM):	no i just sent him a txt asking wtf
SACHAMO1234 (9:44:12 PM):	i dont think he would recall cause like i said ive dealt with him since 08 so im confused on y he would if he did
Safeplatypus (9:44:38 PM):	Well it got recalled, apparently.
Safeplatypus (9:44:46 PM):	Now they're looking into the issue.
SACHAMO1234 (9:45:37 PM):	and i dont think oakland would have recalled cause he knows if he did that mage he has now would be gone in an instant
Safeplatypus (9:46:12 PM):	I don't think he did.
SACHAMO1234 (9:46:47 PM):	i dont either and with joker not answering that bugging me alot but still dont understand y he would knowing i have the mage he got from rogue trade
Safeplatypus (9:47:29 PM):	Yea well Oak has to do a lot of **** to get the rogue back now so you'd better be talking to Joker about compensating man I don't want you to get ****ed over in this, but yea.
SACHAMO1234 (9:49:18 PM):	i understand bro no prob let me know what the compensation going to be i might try to help out on it but ima try find out what joker did
Safeplatypus (9:50:04 PM):	No worries man, I'll keep ya posted, i'm heading out for the night, I can go now that Oak has done what he has so far
SACHAMO1234 (9:50:35 PM):	aight cool ima eat and do same got a after wedding party to attend to
Safeplatypus (9:51:26 PM):	Alright man, talk to you tomorrow how about?
SACHAMO1234 (9:51:59 PM):	thats fine u got my cell number if im not on aim just shoot me a txt
Safeplatypus (9:52:06 PM):	Sounds good
SACHAMO1234 (9:52:09 PM):	cool
SACHAMO1234 went idle at 10:45:52 PM
SACHAMO1234 came back from idle at 10:59:30 PM
SACHAMO1234 went idle at 11:10:24 PM
SACHAMO1234 came back from idle at 11:33:58 PM
SACHAMO1234 signed off at 11:37:17 PM
August-14-11
SACHAMO1234 signed on at 12:33:57 AM
Safeplatypus (1:26:09 AM):	Hey mate
SACHAMO1234 (1:26:41 AM):	hey
Safeplatypus (1:27:14 AM):	Yea I'll get back too you about compensating but you should take a look at this dude...
Safeplatypus (1:27:24 AM):	http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/387170-iy-joker-yi-%7C-prevsious-banned-scammer-md-%7C-owes-money-account-%7C.html
SACHAMO1234 (1:27:34 AM):	yeah i seen earlier
SACHAMO1234 (1:27:51 AM):	like i told alanzo im done with joker period
Safeplatypus (1:28:31 AM):	It sucks that all this **** is gonna rebound now
Safeplatypus (1:28:44 AM):	Like I don't want too **** you over you know, but I don't want to be left with nothing either...
SACHAMO1234 (1:29:21 AM):	yeha only good this is alonzo is only one with the id to the rogue so thats that but mage on other hand joker has cd keys to it but idk man **** right here pisses me off
Safeplatypus (1:29:45 AM):	Yea, joker has cd keys to the rogue too so..
SACHAMO1234 (1:30:07 AM):	yeah that does suck but id gets farther with blizzard
Safeplatypus (1:37:52 AM):	True, I just hope I can get this back, I still need to pay Oak something for this though, just something to think about eh dude? Really sucks that Joker would pull this ****
SACHAMO1234 went idle at 1:40:41 AM It clearly says in there, I don't want to recall, but I don't want to be left with nothing either and Sachamo says nothing back, no questioning and no arguing about it.

 

[EpicNPC]

friend gets mage from wetplatypus
friend trades mage to sachamo88
mage is recalled

wetplatypus & oaklandthizz message sachamo88 on Aug 17th saying the account sachamo88 traded got locked.

What account is this?
When did you trade with either of them?
Did your friend trade the account you gave him to one of them?
Why are they both IMing you?

Who is alonzo gaskin?
Who is safeplatypus?

alonzo gaskin 7:53 pm
mage got locked after i tried doing a xfer and think i need I.D....

WTF? Didn't you get the mage? Why is alonzo gaskin telling you the mage is locked when you just said you had the mage?

Im sorry, but I'm not going to read through this and try to unravel the puzzel for the next 2 hrs. If you cannot fillout the scam thread in a clear and consist manner I will not attempt help resolve it.

This is already a mess. Im closing it.
Please repost and provide the information in a clear and easy to read manner. AND USE PERIODS......when you write. It took me 10 mins just to read your scam description.