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Scam/Fraud Report Against Mentallised

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This is a reporting of a scam that has been conducted by member Mentallised. The allegations are for the attemp to sell two different ROK accounts, and failing to deliver.

On the first: Member Mentallised and I came to an agreement of an account that he has for sale. We agreed on a price, and I had sent money in the form of PayPal. Once payment was received, he gave me the information needed to access the account. When I tried to access it, Google needed confirmation, and sent a code. He then said that Google must have now banned that account due to IP issue. I asked for a refund and he said that was not part of the deal. He said that he will try to recover it, and once he does, he will let me know. Til this day, he has not been able to deliver that.

The Second: A few days later, member Mentallised contacted me (all through Discord BTW) and said that he has a couple more accounts but they are higher status than the previous, so the price would be more, double what I already have paid (350 usd). He said since I already paid for half of that price already, I would only owe the other half. I told him I would send half, and the rest later. Once I paid half, he would send me the account information, and the other half afterwards. Again, member failed to deliver and there has been small communications.

As of now, I have spend about $600 USD. And I have nothing from him.
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Who is a person from discord? Please post an image of their discord ID with #
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
His Discord info is: dop#2823
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Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
Hello.

I've sold an account to this user which was 100% delivered to him but somehow it was locked by Google. I tired to unlock but I had no success and this guy asked me for a refund which is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I kept trying to unlock it for maybe 3 or 4 days but I wasn't able and so I gave up..

After that I went to talk with my brother that plays the same game than me (Rise of Kingdoms) and I asked him to sell his account to this exact guy to try to compensate him for his loss and he tried to negotiate with me something like half of price - account - other half. I agreed with that. The guy gave his half and right now I was going to deliver him the account but my brother didn't want to. He wants the full price and this guy just entered the rage mode out of nowhere.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
I'm not trying to sound selfish or richer than you, but I do not need your money for anything. I can show you right now that I have spent over 10.000$ on this game, your 600$ means zero to me, I just like to make the things fair.

I'm sorry for what happened with the 1st account being sold, it's something that happens. I know it because I also sell accounts of Steam and Epicgames (fortnite) and I have seen this happening before.

About the 2nd account, I don't know what to say, It wasn't really my fault tbh
 
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I am sorry, but I am not in rage mode. I think I have been civil and calm throughout our whole conversation. You and I both have the conversation saved on Discord.

If 600 is nothing to you, then you can easily refund.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
But why would I? Everybody knows the risk of buying and sell accounts. Geting banned or lock are things that might happen especially if you don't know what you're doing (you said it was ur first time buying an account).

Truth that I don't need the money but it's also truth that I was fair enough with you so I don't need to refund anything.
 
But why would I? Everybody knows the risk of buying and sell accounts. Geting banned or lock are things that might happen especially if you don't know what you're doing (you said it was ur first time buying an account).

Truth that I don't need the money but it's also truth that I was fair enough with you so I don't need to refund anything.
If you are the original owner then you should be able to easily unlock Gmail. If you are unable then this account should not be sold. Please refund money to @gokusayin including half he paid for the account of your brother

But before we proceed with that please tell me do you still have this account installed on your device? If you do then ask the buyer to provide you his FB, link account with FB, and you will resolve the issue
 
I do not have anything attached to my phone for any account belonging to the member.

I will post an update as soon as a refund has been issued. I do hope the member follows through.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
If you are the original owner then you should be able to easily unlock Gmail. If you are unable then this account should not be sold. Please refund money to @gokusayin including half he paid for the account of your brother

But before we proceed with that please tell me do you still have this account installed on your device? If you do then ask the buyer to provide you his FB, link account with FB, and you will resolve the issue
I'm not the original owner bcause I bought the account when it was around 40m power back to 2019.
Also I'm sorry but I'm not refunding him since it was not my problem. And no, as I said to the buyer 2 weeks ago, I don't have the account logged on my device
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
@mentallised has not linked his FB to his account. I think he doesn't have access to the game because it's locked? @mentallised, can you confirm this?
On my account is Gmail only. No facebook linked.

On my brother's account is facebook only. No gmail linked
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
When someone is buying an account (I'm not even talking about Rise of Kingdoms only) he/she needs to be aware that this type of thing might happen and not every seller has the infos to solve the problem that the buyer created.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
@gokusayin Also I have contacted my bank already and Paypal support in case you try to refund anything and I explained them all the situation that happened.

If you wanna try resolve this in a calm way and try to find a solution for both of us, nice I'll cooperate, if not, I'll be a **** aswell.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
@Angel

Also: "We do not use Discord. Our middleman do not use Discord. All Trade Guardian services are on Epicnpc, NEVER off-site or via email. We do not investigate Discord disputes. Please contact members on our website."
 
@Angel

Also: "We do not use Discord. Our middleman do not use Discord. All Trade Guardian services are on Epicnpc, NEVER off-site or via email. We do not investigate Discord disputes. Please contact members on our website."
You are responsible for what you sell here. This is a loophole that does not work.

Your thread stated that you are the original owner. This falls under the false advertising rule. Full refund is owed if you can't assist with unlocking the gmail account.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
And I'm the original owner lol. I'm the ONLY ONE who had access to it and was playing on it for 2 years.
 
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Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
You are responsible for what you sell here. This is a loophole that does not work.

Your thread stated that you are the original owner. This falls under the false advertising rule. Full refund is owed if you can't assist with unlocking the gmail account.

And btw. I never said i'm the original owner, I said i'm the only owner:
"I'm selling my ROK account due my university started and I don't have time to play anymore. I'm the only owner of this account and it has access to gmail only (android). Never linked to facebook or ios."
Don't spread lies please. thanks
 
You are responsible for what you sell here. This is a loophole that does not work.

Your thread stated that you are the original owner. This falls under the false advertising rule. Full refund is owed if you can't assist with unlocking the gmail account.
You are correct. This can keep going on and on. People can keep selling the same account in an infinite loop. How many more people will be subjected to this?
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
Not my problem if u didnt read the TOS correctly. I have told you in discord dms what u have to do to solve this and try to put a end end on this whole situation. If you wanna take my advices, good.

If not, I think we're done for now.

Thanks for your time
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
Did you even read what I sent to you in dms? lol
 
Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-disputes-against-shiyochan.2102158/
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"Original Owner" yes.

anything else is false advertising.

and also even that can happen, ure still responsible for what you are selling in here.

basically, if u cant give him the account you have to refund.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
My man... after getting paid and giving away account details I have not anything to do with the account.
 
Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-disputes-against-shiyochan.2102158/
My man... after getting paid and giving away account details I have not anything to do with the account.

the terms of epicnpc are saying:

YOU are RESPONSIBLE for WHAT YOU ARE SELLING.

doesnt matter if you are original owner or not.

false advertising is also a reason for beein punished.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
the terms of epicnpc are saying:

YOU are RESPONSIBLE for WHAT YOU ARE SELLING.

doesnt matter if you are original owner or not.

false advertising is also a reason for beein punished.

Correct. I'm RESPONSIBLE for WHAT I'm SELLING. I'm not responsible for what I've sold. thanks
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-fraud-report-against-mentallised.1994481
Ban in 24 hours if you fail to help in unlocking the gmail or fully refunding.
I have spent 2 weeks already trying to unlock the gmail and It wasn't successful. It was for a code on my phone, I receive the code, I put it in and nothing happens, say it's not enough to validate my ownership. You can permanently ban me if you think it's deserved. Thanks
 
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