Scam Accusation - Ater1177

[kaoztrade]

Information
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Purchase Date: 3-19-20
Date the problem began: 3-19-20
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC messenger
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Ater1177
Your Instant Messenger ID: Kaoztrade


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/7ssr-jalter-okita-merlin-drake-nero-jack-and-quetzalcoatl.1555231/
Approximate value of property: $42.06 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?:
I bought Ater1177's Fate/Go account yesterday and the transfer code he sent me did not work at all. When I messaged him about it, he immediately claimed that he didn't have access to the account anymore and that I must be trying to pull something. This is complete BS since I was not able to get into the account at all and sent him screenshots from my phone showing that I did not have access to the account. He didn't try to help me at all and just blew the whole situation off. Pretty messed up and it seems he was just out to scam somebody.

P.S. I thought that maybe since he was in Europe and I was in NA, that this was why it was not working, but he confirmed during the dispute that it should work in NA.


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

https://imgur.com/a/2nS0V1L

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

https://imgur.com/a/bT7qCvL

Other proof:

https://imgur.com/a/m8fac4y

 

[Austin Powers]

@Ater1177 notified

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

The guy paid me and got the account but soon after, he tried everything to get the money back, without even trying to give me back the account, I refused his request (mainly because for whatever reason he wasn't able to give me back my account) and now i find myself being accused of being a scammer, kindly remove the review he made, thank you

 

[Austin Powers]

Ater1177 you claim he tried to get his money back , did he file a chargeback claim through paypal ?, If so please provide a screenshot of the chargeback information including dates + email being visible please

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

As you can clearly see, paypal refused his groundless refound request too

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

So please, kindly delete the negative review be made, it's really bothersome and undeserved, thanks

 

[kaoztrade]

This is utterly unfair. I only tried to get my money back through PayPal because he refused to help. I still don't have access to the account. I really just want to play the game and this guy is just being a jerk. I've done many transactions here and this is the first time I've been burned.

 

[kaoztrade]

Look at how he accepted the lower payment option through "friends and family" even though he said "it's a bit on low side". It was because he knew those types of payments are much harder to contest.

 

[Adoxia]

Only staff can view this content.

 

[kaoztrade]

I just wanted to add that I got myself accidentally banned from EpicNpc today while still trying to log into the game lol.
I saw that he was in Italy and so I thought to try the transfer details while logged into a VPN connected to Italy (still didn't work, sadly). I did this while logged into this site without realizing that it'd get me banned (Thanks for the fix, mods).
If that doesn't prove that I'm still not able to access the account, I don't know what will. I've tried everything I can think of to make the transfer details he sent work. Since I haven't gotten in, he must still have the account.

 

[Austin Powers]

just want to get the timeline correct

so the agreement between you both happened on the 19th of March ?

Ater1177 why did you not try and help kaoz at all when he came to you with the issue ?

What is the status of the paypal dispute ?

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

Yes, I did help him, at least till I discovered that I couldn't log in anymore (yes, I confirmed multiple times that the code was the correct one) and at that point it was clear that he was trying to pull some kind of trick, so I simply started ignoring him because I gave him the account and got my money.


PayPal refused the request, almost immediately

 

[kaoztrade]

Ater1177 trying to help amounted to him claiming he didn't have access anymore and then calling me a scammer. What the hell am I scamming? I'm gonna waste my time and everyone else's to try and save 40 bucks? Give me a break, I've purchased multiple accounts for more. If I'm telling him that I don't have access to the account, and he somehow lost his access too, he should have tried to contact the developers to regain his account and try the transfer again. This entire time he has been running away from the issue, which means he's avoiding something.

 

[Austin Powers]

ok so this is the dilemma we are having right now

Ater1177 claims once he got the funds he sent the correct information
Kaoztrade Claims the information did not work and he has no access to the account
Ater1177 Claims he no longer has access to the account

Can one of you guys try do a pass reset and see what email it falls under at all so we can see who has possession of the account ?

 

[kaoztrade]

I am willing to send you the credentials he sent me to test. I was never able to log in, so I have no idea what the account info is. I don't even know the ig name because it wasn't in the screenshots. Ater1177 would be best equipped to try and recover the account.

 

[Austin Powers]

@Ater1177 can you try to recover the account at all so we can get this resolved ?

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

I tried but unfortunately it doesn't seems to be linked to one of my emails, not anymore at least

 

[Austin Powers]

@Ater1177 can you contact their support system to get the account back ?

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

I tried and I gave them the email that I had linked, but they said that the email isn't linked to any fgo account, so they can't help me

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

I've given all the proofs you requested and even more but I still have the negative feedback, please delete it since I can't do anything while I still have it. I don't really want to make a new account when I did nothing wrong, especially now that I've waited for more than a week for this post to resolve

 

[P1trsavanger]

Please, post your communication with the support. Censor sensitive details or post it as Staff only content.
Having multiple accounts is not allowed, so dont try that.

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

Then please fix this issue, I did everything I could! I'm being wrongly accused and I still complied with you but after more than a week you still did nothing!

 

[P1trsavanger]

Im not a mod, I cant help you. If you want this resolved fast, your best bet is to recover the account or compensate the buyer some way.

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

Me? He's the one that tried to scam me! Is this really how you "fix" things here?

 

[kaoztrade]

Ater1177 please stop this charade. You can't even do something simple like prove that you contacted the developers to recover the account. This whole time you've called me a scammer, while you're the one with both my money and the fate/go account. You should be ashamed.

 

[Austin Powers]

all users are responsible for the items/accounts they sell on these forums.

@Ater1177 you are to recover the account for kaoz or provide a refund

 

[Ater1177]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation-ater1177.1582694/

So basically, I'm not sure if understood it correctly, but: he tried to scam me and you, as a moderator, want me to pay him back, helping him with his scam? Very professional of you, I have to say.

 

[Angel]

@Ater1177 your claim is that you contacted support and asked them for help

Please post an image of the ticket you send together with the image with their response


Also, I want to know did the buyer disputed his payment before or after he asked for help

 

[Angel]

@Ater1177 was online but failed to reply

Ban in 24 hrs

 

[kaoztrade]

@Ater1177 your claim is that you contacted support and asked them for help

Please post an image of the ticket you send together with the image with their response


Also, I want to know did the buyer disputed his payment before or after he asked for help

Hi Angel, to answer your question: I disputed the payment after I asked for help and was ignored.

 

[Angel]

Banned

Ater1177
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