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If Trade Guardian was used, please go to the Trade Guardian > History or Active Transaction page and click the "Report" button. Someone will then join the chat and investigate your claim.
DISPUTE Information
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Link to a thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=inbox&group=2936895
Approximate value of item/service: $500.00USD
Date the problem began: MAY 14, 2023
Show proof of payment (screenshot):
Describe the problem:
Hello,
This is the second attempt at reporting an incident that involved a Paypal return scam. this individual continues to write and complain to an admin about the review that left him and that i have every right in doing so given the way this transaction played out. He insisted from the start that he wanted to use cryptocurrency probably assuming my lack of knowledge about it. That was not going to be the method of any payment I insisted as we know once transactions are sent on Blockchain they're nearly impossible to retrieve he then went on about how he can walk me through the whole process of setting up a crypto wallet and that it's that easy. pretty obvious something is up at this point but still giving people the benefit of the doubt we decided to go through PayPal. he insisted through Friends and Family obviously to make sure that i wasn't able to be covered under PayPal seller protection terms. I was hesitant but we decided to do half up front for access into the account and then the remaining half and additional account to total up the sum. after i sent the payment to him. he stopped messaging me back quickly and elongated the time between messages. 20-something min went by and I asked what was going on. He then wrote me saying that he has to wait to verify that the funds were sent through Friends and Family on his "Friends" account. Given i was under the impression the account was going to be under his name? at this point i knew i had been scammed and that he would try and do something to get the rest of the ramming funds from me. So he acted like he didn't know what we agreed on right before the payment was sent saying he needs the total amount first then hell give me access to the account. When moments right before the funds were sent i clarified and made sure that we were both on the same page about half up front for access into the account so i can verify its legitimacy then i would send the remaining payment and then he would give me ym full account access at that point. Now going over almost an hour after sending him confirmation of the funds being sent he never once sent anything about the account. Matter of fact having investigated this much further on his posts. he claims he sold an almost 1:1 identical account that gave me evidence of him editing and manipulating pictures of a specific account portraying the grandeur of the account that was supposed to be sold. After having reported him once he complains to admins saying that im some child using a stolen credit card and Paypal and regurgitating truth in matters of the widespread use of credit cards and user fraud. I am more than capable of providing the necessary documentation to validate my Credit card and Paypal account. The seller claimed he sent the refund right back which was a lie I had to reach out to Paypal member services and contact their fraud department where they said that they couldn't guarantee me that my funds would be returned. However with all the evidence that i provided PayPal showed proof that he had every intention to keep my money and had no account, to begin with, they authorized a one-time courtesy in allowing my funds to be returned almost 1 or so later. The user has been reporting my rating and reviews to admins to paint a picture that he is in at no fault and that i left 'malicious intent" How is that any way factual? it is my crappy experience that i had to endure and fight by the hairs of my teeth to get my money back. with little to no help from anyone and then admins remove my review and feed into the same redirect that is plagued in the community instead of providing a safer user experience that is fair and holds those with the REAL malicious intent accountable. Thank you I do hope this gives much further insight into what occurred please do not hesitate to reach out I will make sure to promptly check for a reply.
Best
P.S. The seller also after having my review removed from his profile proceeded to mine with the exact means of defamatory and fallacious to try and paint me as the decidetfull or impatient one that lietrally is so cringe making up factuless statments
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
If Trade Guardian was used, please go to the Trade Guardian > History or Active Transaction page and click the "Report" button. Someone will then join the chat and investigate your claim.
DISPUTE Information
######################
Link to a thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=inbox&group=2936895
Approximate value of item/service: $500.00USD
Date the problem began: MAY 14, 2023
Show proof of payment (screenshot):
Describe the problem:
Hello,
This is the second attempt at reporting an incident that involved a Paypal return scam. this individual continues to write and complain to an admin about the review that left him and that i have every right in doing so given the way this transaction played out. He insisted from the start that he wanted to use cryptocurrency probably assuming my lack of knowledge about it. That was not going to be the method of any payment I insisted as we know once transactions are sent on Blockchain they're nearly impossible to retrieve he then went on about how he can walk me through the whole process of setting up a crypto wallet and that it's that easy. pretty obvious something is up at this point but still giving people the benefit of the doubt we decided to go through PayPal. he insisted through Friends and Family obviously to make sure that i wasn't able to be covered under PayPal seller protection terms. I was hesitant but we decided to do half up front for access into the account and then the remaining half and additional account to total up the sum. after i sent the payment to him. he stopped messaging me back quickly and elongated the time between messages. 20-something min went by and I asked what was going on. He then wrote me saying that he has to wait to verify that the funds were sent through Friends and Family on his "Friends" account. Given i was under the impression the account was going to be under his name? at this point i knew i had been scammed and that he would try and do something to get the rest of the ramming funds from me. So he acted like he didn't know what we agreed on right before the payment was sent saying he needs the total amount first then hell give me access to the account. When moments right before the funds were sent i clarified and made sure that we were both on the same page about half up front for access into the account so i can verify its legitimacy then i would send the remaining payment and then he would give me ym full account access at that point. Now going over almost an hour after sending him confirmation of the funds being sent he never once sent anything about the account. Matter of fact having investigated this much further on his posts. he claims he sold an almost 1:1 identical account that gave me evidence of him editing and manipulating pictures of a specific account portraying the grandeur of the account that was supposed to be sold. After having reported him once he complains to admins saying that im some child using a stolen credit card and Paypal and regurgitating truth in matters of the widespread use of credit cards and user fraud. I am more than capable of providing the necessary documentation to validate my Credit card and Paypal account. The seller claimed he sent the refund right back which was a lie I had to reach out to Paypal member services and contact their fraud department where they said that they couldn't guarantee me that my funds would be returned. However with all the evidence that i provided PayPal showed proof that he had every intention to keep my money and had no account, to begin with, they authorized a one-time courtesy in allowing my funds to be returned almost 1 or so later. The user has been reporting my rating and reviews to admins to paint a picture that he is in at no fault and that i left 'malicious intent" How is that any way factual? it is my crappy experience that i had to endure and fight by the hairs of my teeth to get my money back. with little to no help from anyone and then admins remove my review and feed into the same redirect that is plagued in the community instead of providing a safer user experience that is fair and holds those with the REAL malicious intent accountable. Thank you I do hope this gives much further insight into what occurred please do not hesitate to reach out I will make sure to promptly check for a reply.
Best
P.S. The seller also after having my review removed from his profile proceeded to mine with the exact means of defamatory and fallacious to try and paint me as the decidetfull or impatient one that lietrally is so cringe making up factuless statments
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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
