Primos scammed me by Recovering the account months later

[ylmoch]

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DISPUTE Information
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Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/acc-uplay-433-diam-old-skins.2433331/
Approximate value of item/service: $213.05 USD
Date the problem began: March 1st 2023- August 2 2023
Show proof of payment (screenshot):

Describe the problem:
the user Primos scammed me out of an r6 account which i purchased for $213.05

proof i bought the account this is a review from when i bought the account

look at this gmail, its his paypal email its also the same email he used to recover his account

this is a screenshot of the chats he had with a ubisoft live agent to "recover" scam me

then this happened

i woke up to a message from Ubisoft saying my account email was changed
this guy is weird asf for selling an account just to pull it back through support i o longer have access to this account and have ultimately been scammed i purchased this account with MM trade guardian and now im just down $213.05
mercurial003 was the MM of this transaction and he can confirm i bought the account
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[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

I'm not responsible for this I sold this account to him but im just reseller I don't have any evidence to get the account back this person sold the account or something and accuses me a scammer.

 

[ylmoch]

I'm not responsible for this I sold this account to him but im just reseller I don't have any evidence to get the account back this person sold the account or something and accuses me a scammer.

u literal recovered the account using the same email as your PayPal account you're not slick u cant get out of this one, and how come as soon as u recover the account you try to resell it

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

u literal recovered the account using the same email as your PayPal account you're not slick u cant get out of this one, and how come as soon as u recover the account you try to resell it

Stop using f12

 

[ylmoch]

Stop using f12

bro do u want me to go on my phone? i can make a video showing all the proof, ive got 2 more chats u had on Ubisoft support trynna recover the account and the MM can vouch that thats the email u probably used on the account b4 you sold it to me + idek what f12 is my keyboard doesnt have f keys

 

[ylmoch]

does this not deserve a ban? @EpicNPC CM

 

[ylmoch]

I'm not responsible for this I sold this account to him but im just reseller I don't have any evidence to get the account back this person sold the account or something and accuses me a scammer.

u listed it as original owner why u taking it back now? @EpicNPC CM @EpicNPC Mod this is another post of him selling the same account with original owner because he changed it on the current thread i bought it off to make it look like he isnt responsible

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/glacier-acc-uplay-430-diam-emerald-1-500.2398415/

 

[Descream4]

@Primos You are responsible for what you sell here regardless of whether or not you’re the original owner. You can try to recall it through support or ask the previous owner to do so, but if you cannot fix the issue, you will owe @ylmoch a refund.

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

@Primos You are responsible for what you sell here regardless of whether or not you’re the original owner. You can try to recall it through support or ask the previous owner to do so, but if you cannot fix the issue, you will owe @ylmoch a refund.

this guy sell the acc no one can recover the acc

 

[Descream4]

@ylmoch Please provide evidence that the account was changed to the same email as @Primos PayPal email. I only see the previous email linked to the account in your chat, which also doesn’t match the seller’s PayPal email.

 

[ylmoch]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@ylmoch Please provide evidence that the account was changed to the same email as @Primos PayPal email. I only see the previous email linked to the account in your chat, which also doesn’t match the seller’s PayPal email.

the gmail that recovered the account is [email protected] and his paypal is [email protected] like are u being serious rn and saying they dont match its literal the same email with an 11 at the end its literally his government name i have a video of him also attempting to take the account back 2 months ago it shows him trying to recover his account using his globally known discord name shankii

this video also shows the date he last played on the account march first which is the day i bought the account no one else would know that besides him u can check his page to see the review i left on march first when i purchased the account

 

[Descream4]

the gmail that recovered the account is [email protected] and his paypal is [email protected] like are u being serious rn and saying they dont match its literal the same email with an 11 at the end its literally his government name

That is not conclusive evidence. I could create the same email ending in 12 & claim it to be someone else’s. But I have since confirmed that this email does belong to him. Could you provide some evidence that the account’s email link was changed to this email? From what you’ve posted I can only see what the previous email was.

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

bro u sell the acc or u get scammed by someone you.

 

[Descream4]

@ylmoch To clarify, “last/dernière email” refers to the email linked before yours or the current email linked? Also please clarify if the account was resold since you’ve purchased it or not.

 

[ylmoch]

That is not conclusive evidence. I could create the same email ending in 12 & claik it to be someone else’s. But I have since confirmed that this email does belong to him. Could you provide some evidence that the account’s email link was changed to this email? From what you’ve posted I can only see what the previous email was.

i cant thats not possible the email i received from ubisoft just tells me that my info was changed which would be literally impossible since i have 2fa and even more security on the account i didnt even receive a email change request from ubisoft beacause he used the Ubisoft support live chat to verify he was the original owner and they changed it for him thats why i couldnt prevent it from happening

 

[ylmoch]

@ylmoch To clarify, “last/dernière email” refers to the email linked before yours or the current email linked? Also please clarify if the account was resold since you’ve purchased it or not.

it was not that tiktok is another account i sold and i can show proof if u watch the tiktok u can see the discrepancies between the two accounts

 

[ylmoch]

bro u sell the acc or u get scammed by someone you.

this is my friends account which he was showing off his account look closely u can see the level of the account is 320 litteral not even the right caption

nice try buddy

 

[ylmoch]

@ylmoch To clarify, “last/dernière email” refers to the email linked before yours or the current email linked? Also please clarify if the account was resold since you’ve purchased it or not.

nope never even posted it b4 its not hard bro it obvious that he recovered the account i also have hard evidence that he in fact is the original owner

 

[Descream4]

nope never even posted it b4 its not hard bro it obvious that he recovered the account i also have hard evidence that he in fact is the original owner

If you have evidence that he’s the original owner aside from an older post then please send it.

 

[ylmoch]

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This is a screen recording of the account i bought and it shows the previous names of the account and u can see dating all the way back to its creation it was called a variation of Shankii which is primos name everywhere even in discord and it's even his epic noc back round for his account

 

[ylmoch]

If you have evidence that he’s the original owner aside from an older post then please send it.

also u confirmed the fact that the email that pulled the account was his and hes in ownership of this, im starting to think your on his side via bribe cause theres no way that u cant put the pieces together

 

[Descream4]

also u confirmed the fact that the email that pulled the account was his and hes in ownership of this, im starting to think your on his side via bribe cause theres no way that u cant put the pieces together

You yourself have stated that last email refers to the email linked beforehand & not to the new email that the account was changed to, so no, I only have confirmation that the previous email was his, which should be obvious since you purchased it from him.

We have had plenty of instances where buyers fake a recall to get their money back & also keep the account. Innocent sellers have gotten banned for this in the past, so I want both sides to provide as much evidence as possible. That does not mean that I’m on his side & to suggest I’ve been bribed is downright insulting. You should pick your words more carefully in the future because none of us will be inclined to help you here when you make these false allegations towards us.

With that being said, since @Primos appears to indeed be the original owner based on the evidence provided, he will need to either issue a full refund or return the account. If you’re not in possession of the account, you must try to get it back through support. If you fail to, you still owe @ylmoch a refund.

@Primos please respond here.

 

[ylmoch]

You yourself have stated that last email refers to the email linked beforehand & not to the new email that the account was changed to, so no, I only have confirmation that the previous email was his, which should be obvious since you purchased it from him.

We have had plenty of instances where buyers fake a recall to get their money back & also keep the account. Innocent sellers have gotten banned for this in the past, so I want both sides to provide as much evidence as possible. That does not mean that I’m on his side & to suggest I’ve been bribed is downright insulting. You should pick your words more carefully in the future because none of us will be inclined to help you here when you make these false allegations towards us.

With that being said, since @Primos appears to indeed be the original owner based on the evidence provided, he will need to either issue a full refund or return the account. If you’re not in possession of the account, you must try to get it back through support. If you fail to, you still owe @ylmoch a refund.

@Primos please respond here.

thank u so much sorry for my impatience and i will take what u said into consideration

 

[ylmoch]

You yourself have stated that last email refers to the email linked beforehand & not to the new email that the account was changed to, so no, I only have confirmation that the previous email was his, which should be obvious since you purchased it from him.

We have had plenty of instances where buyers fake a recall to get their money back & also keep the account. Innocent sellers have gotten banned for this in the past, so I want both sides to provide as much evidence as possible. That does not mean that I’m on his side & to suggest I’ve been bribed is downright insulting. You should pick your words more carefully in the future because none of us will be inclined to help you here when you make these false allegations towards us.

With that being said, since @Primos appears to indeed be the original owner based on the evidence provided, he will need to either issue a full refund or return the account. If you’re not in possession of the account, you must try to get it back through support. If you fail to, you still owe @ylmoch a refund.

@Primos please respond here.

i would like to inform u that hes since then blocked me on paypal

 

[Descream4]

@Primos Online, no response

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

i will try to contact first owner to recover it

 

[ylmoch]

i will try to contact first owner to recover it

lmao u are the first owner

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

lmao u are the first owner

i am not when i bought the acc i like the username and i keep to use it on my accounts

 

[ylmoch]

i am not when i bought the acc i like the username and i keep to use it on my accounts

cap
but if thats true than youre the biggest fan OAT

 

[Descream4]

@Primos Any update on contacting the original owner?

 

[Descream4]

@Primos

 

[Primos]

Banned - Scammer - TG - #74770

 

[ylmoch]

What is this showing because I havnt received a single dime from u considering u have me blocked on PayPal

 

[Descream4]

Is this refund against the original owner?

 

[Descream4]

@Primos

 

[ylmoch]

@Primos

I think it's honestly kinda weird how he blatantly ignoring u

 

[Descream4]

Online without response multiple times

@Primos Ban in 24 hours if no refund is issued.

 

[Descream4]

Banned

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