Page 1 Thread Limit Updated

[EpicNPC]

I was going to wait until after New Years to make the change, but the poll seems to be overwhelming so there's really no reason to wait.

57.4% - Yes, all should be lowered significantly
21.9% - Yes, all should be slightly lowered
20.7% - No, the limits are fine

I saw a lot of requests for only 3 threads, but I think that's not enough. I don't want to go from one extreme to the next. I decided to lower the limit by 50% for all types. Below are the new limits for each section.

• Highly active - 5 (old limit 10)
• Medium activity - 10 (old limit 20)
• Low activity - 15 (old limit 30)

We are also planning a new update to created "Thread Types" so seller can clearly indicate the type of item within.

• Single Item
• Multiple Items (Store)
• Service

Before creating the thread a seller will be asked to select one. A tag will then appear on the thread list page so user can easily see what type of thread it is. If you have suggestions on other thread types, please post below and we'll consider it.

 

[MistiServices]

Will u make thread list shorter like before?

 

[EpicNPC]

I'm not sure why we would make it shorter. 50 threads seems good to me.

 

[Taki]

I saw a lot of requests for only 3 threads, but I think that's not enough.

What metric did you look at to determine this? If the community's opinion was not to be taken into account, then what was the reason for creating a poll and asking the community?

What's the real reason behind 10 or 15 max thread for Medium or Low activity forums? Who needs 15 threads?

It should be the same for every forum, easy to understand by all. In this way, the tasks of the mods will become easier as well, and they will not need to check 10-15 threads each after the report.

As a long term seller, in my opinion, as well as many others, for a fair marketplace a 3 thread max limit would be best and sufficient for everyone in any forum.

 

[MistiServices]

I think 60% of people who voted are sellers , people who actually trade / sell here and most of us, we voted for 3 threads per page. U dont have to explain us why you are doing 50% change, but atleast next time dont waste our time by sending us mass message if u wont take end results of voting into consideration.

When u made previous change https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/page-1-max-thread-limit-increased.2456594/ u just made decision and that was it , you could do same now, cause obviously u dont care what people have to say about any of the changes.

 

[Desire_Ink]

Sorry, but I do not see any logic in allowing more threads for medium-low activity. 15 threads? Why? If that section literaly already got low activity, do you think it is ok to have 2-3 sellers overflood the main page constantly?
Idk... if you want to keep the limit at 5 threads it is ok and currently reasonable, but make the limit same for all forums regardless the activity.

P.S. I still think 3 threads would be more than enough.

 

[HaniOtaku]

I think 60% of people who voted are sellers , people who actually trade / sell here and most of us, we voted for 3 threads per page. U dont have to explain us why you are doing 50% change, but atleast next time dont waste our time by sending us mass message if u wont take end results of voting into consideration.

When u made previous change https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/page-1-max-thread-limit-increased.2456594/ u just made decision and that was it , you could do same now, cause obviously u dont care what people have to say about any of the changes.

I agree especially for medium activity 10 threads is insane its like you decided in favor of the 20% since 10 or 20 threads are the same if each seller
bump 10 threads our threads will be moved to second page in few mins at least if you make it 3 threads for high activity and 4-5 for medium activity
if you insist to keep the insane limit of 10 threads on medium activity at least increase the max threads on first page to 100 instead of 50

Will u make thread list shorter like before?

it should be longer not shorter with each seller bumping his 10 threads even 100 threads on first page wont be enouph

 

[starglze]

Banned - Previously banned: Wilona

50% is already a reasonable and sufficient decrease to heavily reduce spam. I don't get why some people are still complaining about it; perhaps they don't have a lot to sell and really have a bad experience with spam.

Unlike other platforms where your threads/posts automatically show images/all information on the page/forum and you can swap more images on the page, etc., EpicNPC only shows your title in the forum.
If you have many high-end accounts to sell, it's already a big disadvantage for you. Unless you're a seller with loads of feedback, people can only see your title and how much feedback you have in the forum, which attracts them because they assume you are heavily trusted and maybe you'll have exactly what they're looking for.

As much as how good-paying the buyers are, at least give them an easy time to look for what they want in specific, not search forever in so-called listings where low-end or pre-farmed (reroll, etc.) accounts belong.
Aim for improvements, not making things worse as they are, such as making/suggesting the forum not be limited to titles and feedback status alone instead of complaining and worsening things.

 

[Bakuzni]

Once upon a time we were able to easily see the thread creators name instead of the last posters, this was very easy to spot the users that are clearly trying to overwhelm the page with only their posts.

Low activity forums 15 threads? That's 3 sellers flooding 15x and 45 of the 50 overall... That's WAAAYY TOO MANY...

I have messaged several users multiple times "All your post posts are literally the same except for a very slight change, make a single thread and stop making my job harder and just make a single thread with all the accounts listed"

High activity forums: 3 threads, option to buy 1 additional, 2 additional MAX.
Medium activity 4 threads, optional 1 more max.
Low activity forums. 5 threads, no optional threads.

 

[EpicNPC]

A 50% decrease is a significant drop. I had originally planned to lower it to 8 or 6 and only decided on 5 due to the poll.

What's the real reason behind 10 or 15 max thread for Medium or Low activity forums? Who needs 15 threads?

Low activity forums means nothing is bumped off page 1 for maybe 11, 50, 200 days or longer. If you're a seller in one of those sections and have 3 sold items, you will have to possibly wait months to post again.
What negative affect would 15 threads have in a section where no one is posting anyway? If there's 1 or 2 active sellers, who cares if they have 15 threads each? I don't understand the aggression against the higher limits.

For medium activity section it takes 2-10 days for threads to get bumped off page 1. If I list 3 items and sell them in a few days, I will have to potentially wait many days before I can post again. What is the point of this? A limit of 10 gives a seller room to post again even if their threads haven't been bumped off. I do not want any scenario where a seller has to wait to post. If the limit is 3, that will happen constantly.

I want to give sellers some wiggle room with their threads. If you can setup everything you need with 3, great. Maybe another seller needs 4 or maybe 5. Maybe some other seller only deals with high ends accounts and wants a dedicated post for every account, it'll be hard to do that with a limit of 3. I'm sure some other seller can explain their reason why 3 wouldn't be enough for them. 20% of members wanted no change, remember that.

3 is way too low and I feel causes a heavy restriction for almost no reason.

 

[MistiServices]

Instead asking general community for such changes, maybe focus on sellers who trade here.

 

[Lucky_Charms]

MAKE IT ONE POST PER SECTION that is it 1 freaking post so everyone can stop whining and complaining and figure stuff out.

I am sorry no one will every be happy with whatever choice is made so make it freaking extreme 1 dam post seriously.

However I do think if you make an active section say 5 limit make every single forum or section that same limit no one gives a crap if it is active or not make things so much easier

 

[HaniOtaku]

Low activity forums means nothing is bumped off page 1 for maybe 11, 50, 200 days or longer.

For medium activity section it takes 2-10 days for threads to get bumped off page 1.

ohh it seem that some of us get confused i thought only top 3 or top 5 trending sections considered as high activity and the rest are medium (Nikke for ex)
if thats the case then most of the sections we use are considered as high activity so 5 threads limit will be OK

 

[Futen]

What if someone could use 3 threads as advertising, & 2 threads as main sales (Like you want to sell 2 endgame accounts, but you're also need starter accounts that costs 5$ for each thread totaling 3 threads, ) *Think of it like that because the facts are even worse, they only sell starter

So I don't really mean to underestimate the price of the accounts, but they can try to be more dominant, say like basically the account is worth for 2.5$, so you only need to pay 7.5$ to get more attention from buyers to your main sales, ( This means that, you know, when you scroll through all the threads, your attention is more on sellers who sell Lots Of Threads lots of accounts )

Practices such as this are intrinsically shifty and unjust. Therefore, it is necessary to establish regulations to prevent such occurrences.

To sell a starter account ( under 10$ ), they should to put all the accounts into 1 thread.

 

[Lucky_Charms]

I think it is complete bullshit, cool you lowered the count not by much nothing really changed. Then you still have epic membership able to have 2 more accounts which hey which is another 5 threads per section per account they can have.

I been here since the start, I have seen a lot of change over the years some good and some bad, This change was bad back in march and we told you this. Now you see how bad it was and ask what we thought then you just go and **** on us and do what you want and make it completely worse.

Shows us that you don't give a **** about the lower team who yes helps a lot in keeping **** running on here.