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Not sure what is going on with this deal

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robc94

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retroman69
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I purchased a 7ds grand cross acc from this user. It was a linked account and we agreed upon a price and an account owned by me included. After a week or maybe more, there is also another user on the account. They have been making changes and spending in game resources without my knowledge up until 2 days ago. I have contacted the user and he denies any knowledge. He claims that the only other person who may have done it is the MM we used by the name of mercurial003. It's worth noting that after our deal was made I was no longer able to message him on discord.
 

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Please show his Discord ID

Right click > profile.

Was the middleman deal done through Trade Guardian?
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/not-sure-what-is-going-on-with-this-deal.1968416/
Yes i am here. I cleared my friends list because I had added literally 30 people from this website whilst making deals.
 
Are you going to refund the user or not? He paid you money, and you gave him an account which has more than 1 user using. You need to rectify this as clearly the account is not fit for use. Refund the user immediately. You have 24 hours.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/not-sure-what-is-going-on-with-this-deal.1968416/
First of all. It was an account only 1 user was using. Me. And i clearly gave every bit of info to that middleman who then linked his phone numbers to the accounts. It's nothing to do with me.
 
retroman69 said:
First of all. It was an account only 1 user was using. Me. And i clearly gave every bit of info to that middleman who then linked his phone numbers to the accounts. It's nothing to do with me.
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After that week or so the password for socis2018 Gmail was changed and I could no longer access it or secure the email myself. The MM told me to wait up to 12 days before changing any security info because of risk of a locked account. So I did. But by that point it was already too late and someone else has logged on since. The first red flag was not receiving any daily logins. Then I noticed my gem count went from 240ish to just 1. With units summoned that I did not do. I pmed you about it as well. All I know is there is something not right here and I would like to know what is going on.
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/not-sure-what-is-going-on-with-this-deal.1968416/
As i told you. There's literally no possible way for me to get that gmail back since the middleman was the last guy tinkering with it.
 
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Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/not-sure-what-is-going-on-with-this-deal.1968416/
@robc94 do you want me to email Google and try to recover it with your cooperation? But i can't do it immediately since I'm quite busy irl. I sent you a friend request on discord so we can sort this out.
 
As I recall there was two phone numbers on that email. One was the MM's ending in 47, he said that was his phone number so the other one is questionable ending in 00.

I would like @SaltnVinegar input on any further discussions as to how to proceed. If the account is at risk for any further compromises then I'm not interested
 
Banned - scam - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/not-sure-what-is-going-on-with-this-deal.1968416/
Alright man, do as you seem fit. Sorry this has turned out to be such pain.
 
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@robc94 both numbers are mine, i never said otherwise, there were 2 gmails and i secured each with a different phone number that i own
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retr****[email protected]
password changed 24 days ago (May 19, date of sale)
phone: ••••••••47

soc****[email protected]
password changed 10 days ago (June 1)
phone: •• ••• •13 (retroman69's phone number, 100% confirmed)

retroman69 I used your phone number to reset the password for soc****[email protected] and it was successful. You have Google Authenticator app setup on the email to receive the PIN. Why is there a Google Authenticator setup? This should have been removed at the time of sale. Google does keep recovery phone and emails, even if removed, but not the Google Authenticator app, which means this was manually added back.

retroman69, please make a video of the following. (screenshots are not accepted)

1) Log into the email soc****[email protected]
2) Go to Account > Security
3) Click "Recent Security Activity" and scroll through the whole log
4) Go to "Your Devices" (on security page again) and scroll through that.

Based on this data robc24 can decide if he wants the account back or a full refund.

If the video is not provided in 24 hrs, retroman69 will be banned for scamming.
 
These scammers man. They play dumb when they're caught and try to seem sympathetic. I knew something was up.

And I already know I'm going to end up getting neither the account or a refund in the end, how fantastic. @retroman69 no comment now? I'd like my money back
 
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