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LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<span style="font-family: 'System'">Hello MD, I recently Traded with the Twv member memories of the lost me on 4/19/09 for his 7.5 druid for my Warlock, Everything seemed good, we did full information such such( look at the TWV he gave me for Date proof). phone numbers ect. Everything looked fine.


Then on 5/2/09 he texts me saying his "friend" recalled the account and he is giving mine back,So I get home and try to Change the info back to mine, thinking my account is just fine, and i look and see that my account has been disabled, I texted him saying why is my account disabled and he responds saying that he gave me the info and after that its not his problem anymore, so i decide to do some snooping and i find out that on the original post that i posted on trading him for his druid shows that infact his "friend" did not take the account back and he is back up to trading it... and he made a thread about my lock and I'm guessing most likley did a bad trade,got it locked and then recalls his account using pure lies since as i see on the warlocks post he created , he does bump it on 5/2/09.... Here is some basic proof i can provide for it.

My Positive TWV ratings With his positive marking trade date

His Old post about his druid that shows him putting it back on at <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">5/3/09</span></span>
Look where i posted on 4/19/09, then his post on <span style="font-weight: bold">5/3/09</span>

My warlock that he has posted on at 5/2/09


And as of now I am out of a account seeing I was not the Original Owner, But I have been tryin to contact the locks OO via MD/Aim and he has not been on in under a month or so, So basically I am screwed out of my account thanks to this guy,all i really can say is that some justice takes place in the end, i hate doing this but this move was not very cool dude.
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Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Ok, First Off yes i did in fact try to retrade your warlock, but i did not get it locked or disabled. I logged on the Warlock maybe once or twice since we traded. Two i gave you back the account so quite frankly i could careless what happens at that point and yes i did put the Druid back up for trade for my friend its his account not mine..., he doesnt have an account on MD so i tried to help him out. He told me he wanted to retrade it after he recalled so idk what to tell you about that I just put up the post for him. And to accuse me of causing your account to be disabled is beyond me i am not from some foreign ip or anything that could have caused that infraction to occur so... And also you not being the OO of your account isnt my fault the issue with your account can be easily solved if you can contact the OO its not like its perma banned. And a scammer is someone who steals something from you or screws you over, i didnt cause the disabling of the acount and i gave you back your account after my friend recalled his its not like i tried to keep it or anything i am not a scammer at all.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

memories, maybe you can provide AIM logs between you and this user you have dealt with to backup your claims?
why did you not ask this mysterious user to create a markeedragon name so at least we would have him on file?
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

I know words are words, but yes I do know Memories IRL (he lives next to me), he literally played that lock twice and did NOTHING that could have gotten it disabled. I agree with MArklam however that your friend should have made an MD name, so that people could talk to him about it. I think at this point its all "he said, she said", I think finding out why the account was disabled might be a good idea, it might clear up some of the water.

As far as the chain trading goes, let me see if I have the story right.
So you traded him your lock for his druid. He THEN puts up the lock for trade because he is assuming everything will be ok, and it will be a trade for good. Then his friend recalls the druid, so memories gives back the Lock, and its disabled.

If that is infact the story, which i think it is, then yes it's not the right things to do, and giving Memories the benefit of the doubt with that his friend recalled it, then this is just bad luck, and not either of your fault.

The locking of the account however does have SOMEONE to blame, thats just what needs to be figured out. Now the only thing that I can see throwing up a red flag here is that the IP'S changed within a day drastically. Its not that either of you lives in a weird country or anything, its more of I think blizz monitors ip's that log onto an account, and they happen to see this one and deem it worthy of a lock.


Sorry for the wall of txt :P
It will be interesting to see how this plays out
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">But still i'm not saying your a scammer really, I'm saying you basically screwed me over. The DAY you texted me saying that it got recalled and your give me my account back and when i try to log in it's "mysteriously" locked... It doesn't make sense unless you try to do a bad trade with it and something happened or what dude, because it has only been traded once witch was to me.. So It doesn't really make sense that when I'm looking at the armory, on 2/3/09 that my character has been played, but when i got my information that day(5/2/09) and I told you that I was not able to get near a computer until later so i go into worldofwarcraft.com i get on in the next day to change it and then it tells me the account has been locked? It just doesn't make sense dude. I mean honestly look at it, why would my account get randomly locked unless you did something.. and BTW it says it sent a email to your account that day and you claimed not to have it so I don't know man, I just think this is weird</span>
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MARCKLAM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">memories, maybe you can provide AIM logs between you and this user you have dealt with to backup your claims?
why did you not ask this mysterious user to create a markeedragon name so at least we would have him on file? </div></div>

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">yeah I'm with him dude, I mean why would he not make one for himself? I Just want to get to the dang truth about this man im tired of hearing lies from you about this. + didn't you say "he" quit playing world of warcraft though?</span>
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Their is always a risk in tradi<span style="font-weight: bold">ng. I have been [censored] over several times. I mean SEVERAL</span>.

Oh my, everything is all fine and dandy when I am transfering the charcter for the person or doing this and that.

But oh noes, when they [censored] up on their end they magically become an [censored] and mysteriously avoid me. Then when I come in contact with them a month later and ask them a question they block me.

Basically from this fine wall of text you should now kknow... People are behind their computers and will do things (Like lie and cheat), that they wouldn't do in front of your face.

As far as I am concerned memories just screwed you over. He did something to the account and oh no. Its time to recall!

I now AVOID trading at all costs.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MitchellB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Their is always a risk in tradi<span style="font-weight: bold">ng. I have been [censored] over several times. I mean SEVERAL</span>.

Oh my, everything is all fine and dandy when I am transfering the charcter for the person or doing this and that.

But oh noes, when they [censored] up on their end they magically become an [censored] and mysteriously avoid me. Then when I come in contact with them a month later and ask them a question they block me.

Basically from this fine wall of text you should now kknow... People are behind their computers and will do things (Like lie and cheat), that they wouldn't do in front of your face.

As far as I am concerned memories just screwed you over. He did something to the account and oh no. Its time to recall!

I now AVOID trading at all costs. </div></div>

100% agreed. Memories you know that the blame is on you and you should be man enough to take responsibility and help fix this. Just look at the sequence of events...

1. You trade your account to another person

2. your "friend" supposedly recalls account

3. You text the other person saying that your "friend" recalled account so your giving him back his account.

4. Then he tries to log into account to change back info and the account is disabled.

HOW THE HELL ARE YOU NOT TO BLAME??? Oh and i forgot number 5

5. Now your "friend" wants you to retrade the account that he just recalled.

THATS BS BRO AND YOU KNOW IT. If you're friend is so into trading, recalling and retrading than why doesnt he make his own md account? Heres what i make of this whole situation. You try to trade the lock that was traded to you, something went wrong and lock was disabled, then you make up some [censored] story about a friend who doesnt even exist to try to get your [censored] off the hook. Step up and do the right thing
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Well considering i didnt do anything wrong i dont have to step up to do anything. I didnt cause the Disabling of the account. Here is the Proof : Greetings,

We have determined that the World of Warcraft account KRUSLOL has been accessed by someone not authorized to do so by the World of Warcraft Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html).

To protect your privacy and security, we have temporarily disabled this account. Any recurring subscriptions have been suspended to prevent further monetary charges. In order to regain access to the account, you must complete the steps below to secure the account and verify your identity.

Please note that account sharing is a violation of the World of Warcraft Terms of Use, which is in place to help players keep the accounts they play on secure. As such, we are unable to assist any player in regaining access to an account not created in his or her own name.

Please keep this email for your reference until the account recovery process has been completed.

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We recommend you read over and apply the following tips to protect yourself and the account in the future. Account compromises can occur when a player shares login information with an unauthorized third party or plays on a computer that has a virus, Trojan, or key-logger.

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After Checking My email it is infact because someone else accessed the account, so i am sorry that me giving it back to you cause it to be disabled but if you could contact your OO then you can fix it. I am not going to take the Blame for trying to fix the inconvience of what occured. Yes i did say my friend quit, the Next day in school he started complaining to me about his guild calling him and that they wanted him back so he recalled the account. I gave you back your account if i really wanted to screw you over or scam you i could have just left my authenticator on there and kept it but i didnt, i gave you back your account. [censored] Happens sorry it had to happen to you, and the only reason i trade for my friend and he doesnt have the rep to get a legit trade so... me having rep i just helped him out.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Now, if what memories says is true, and that is the email that was received, then my suspicions were true, blizz saw multiple ip's logging on it, and it raised a red flag. Now they do not, by any means, do this to every ip change on an account, so what im thinking is that they saw the original ip on it, then it changed to memories and BACK to the original one in a matter of days, so maybe they thought memories was someone trying to steal your account or something. I agree that someone is to blame, but im not so sure that memories did anything on purpose, I think it was just bad luck. AND YES the "friend" he is talking about does exist so...yeah, don't accuse him of not existing when you HAVE NO IDEA and are just assuming the worst.
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Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Well, memories traded it using his account and his aim, so really he is responsible for the trade considering he put his reputation on the line and his "mate" didnt, i dont see how this isnt his fault ??
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<span style="color: #FFFFFF">Seriously man, I mean were the 2nd owner to have the account. Apparently you did something and let someone get on it or a bad trade or someting!!. I mean sh*t dude the OO is from Texas!(My STATE). So It had to be from you dude. I wish you would just man up and tell the truth about this, or at least compensate me ... Because now I am Sh*t out of luck and left with nothing and It's looking like its your fault.</span>
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

no one else had accessed the account, because i didnt trade with anyone and i didnt seem to have a problem when i took the authenticator off before i gave it to you....
 
Banned - banned
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Im sorry, but the whole multiple IP thing is bogus.

I buy/sell around 200-300 accounts every 2 weeks. I log on all of them myself and my IP is constantly changing, I buy accounts originated all over the world and have NEVER had an account closed to IP logging.

This was something done on memories side and he knows it. If he wants to hide in his corner and be a <span style="color: #FF0000">[offensive content removed - marcklam]</span> let him, contact me and I will call blizzard and see to have this account unlocked.

Its sad to see how pathetic some of you people in this thread are and you still can wake up in the morning <span style="color: #FF0000">[offensive content removed - marcklam]</span>
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

I understand what your saying KcJ, but isnt that why blizz locks it and sends and email saying they think an un authorized person accessed it? I mean correct me if im wrong, u know a lot more about this than me lol seeing as you do it so much like you said.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Idk you tell me i gave you back the account on 5/3/09 and you started complaining about it being disabled on 5/9/09 i pretty sure you had access to a comp with in those 6 days so if in fact you did have access why didn't you check before then why not ask me a day later about it on 5/4/09, you had 6 days there to what cause something to happen to try to blame me for, this is a waste of my time i didnt cause the disabling of your account so whatever belief you are under is wrong i logged on to the account once or twice i am pretty sure having the account just sit there wouldn't cause it to be disabled.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Actually, authenticators are removed upon temp closes but yeah if you recall the account and get it unlocked if you dont select "remove authenticator" it probs still has it, well it did for me when something like this happened.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

I started complaining because i could not get a hold of the OO adn I gave it a week because i thought you were legit! but when i looked around i noticed its all lies that you have been providing... I'm guessing TWV still doesn't make a person trustworthy


PLUS i DID text you 5/3/09 AND 5/4/09 about it ,when i asked you <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">DID NOT</span></span> text me back on 5/4/09, (5/3/09 was when i said why is it banned and you said its not in my hands now) and 5/4/09 I asked again and u did not text back for 2 days then u said idk...so i tried to get it fixed before i try to ruin a persons reputation...
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

i recieved your text on 5/9/09 about the disabling so idk [censored] you are talking about i gave you back the account on 5/3/09 12:32 am est , and you messaged me about the disabling at May 9, 2009 3:27 est time.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

That is when I asked you for a final time, because you said IDK and didn't get the email about it. so i did to see if you had any new news before i put up a thread..
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Alex,
The account is still locked , I'm going to try to unlock the account.


GBS
, Memories received this email, but on 5/2/09-5/3/09 he claimed that he did not receive it, But now he pulls it right out of thin air now...?? It's amazing to me.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Try to get the account unlocked it shouldn't be a problem if the above was the reason .
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

Alright, i will have to wait until Monday then, Busy life and i forgot to call yesterday, so i will update Monday.
 
Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

LoL @ Memories just tell the kid u screwed him ur a dumbass, this is why MD is bad n should be shut down stupid [censored] kids like u
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Logma321</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LoL @ Memories just tell the kid u screwed him ur a dumbass, this is why MD is bad n should be shut down stupid [censored] kids like u </div></div>

Lucky you
smile.gif


Vacation time !
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

i recieved the email on the 8th of may so no i would not have had it on the 2nd or 3rd, so there is that answer gbs, and i did not screw him, quite frankly i gave the account back 6 days before he contacted me about it being locked, and i didnt cause it to be locked because i logged on the night i gave it back, to take off my authenticator and to make sure the info i gave him was correct. So, you can go ahead an keep complaining to me as if i care about it, and the flamers flame all you want i enjoy it.
 
Re: LooK:TWV Member-MemoriesOfThelostMe -possible proof of "scam/screwing" me.

I'm sorry. I was JUST able to get on today, life has been very busy. I am going to get at it today.
 
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